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Thoughts on Banana prices
I really want to get into these guys. I'm wondering what people think prices are going to be like on 2012 males.
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Around 15 to 30k each. Mike Willbanks just put 100,000 up for his two males this past year & prices have held pretty steady on these guys. Good luck it will be sometime before the hobbyist and small breeders can afford them. Might be like 5 years or so.
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I think 15-20K-ish is still normal for females and males are 40K+. They're just now figuring exactly how the genetics work on these guys because they produce different genders so strangely.
Kevin McCurley talked about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkVEgGqWnmc&feature=plcp
(It says Coral Glow but Bananas and Coral Glows are basically the exact same morph and might be)
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What are my thoughts on their price. Too GD much!
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Males are a bit rarer right? Jacks up their price like crazy. Though the females aren't "cheap" by any means. Too much for my small time budget
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Prices will still be very high I'm assuming. 30k+ for males. When cost is so high and the market is so small, it's definitely not something I would be willing to invest in. Supply and demand are what drive prices and somehow I don't forsee enough of a demand to merit purchasing an animal for that price. Granted, supply on males is low, but I don't think there is a waiting list of people itching to get their hands on a 30k+ Banana male.
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Atleast each year you see more and more being available im sure they will start droping like trivtrivsocal said in the next 5 years or so.
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I think it's great that prices are still high on some mutations. When they are all easy to purchase, it doesn't leave one much to dream for, to work towards attaining.
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Re: Thoughts on Banana prices
For a college guy like me, banana prices are nice. At .49 cents per pound, you cant get fresh fruit any cheeper.:D
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Re: Thoughts on Banana prices
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Originally Posted by mbaker8686
For a college guy like me, banana prices are nice. At .49 cents per pound, you cant get fresh fruit any cheeper.:D
:D that made me LOL!!! :)
Yo the op..
Bananas are stunning morphs, but I do agree that demand Is down, though you could easily make money off of them.if you buy one.. I know a lot of hobbies are not in it foe the money but for people who run them as both a hobby and a business its different. I believe snake lab said he bought a spider back when they first became available? (Correct me if I'm wrong) but the.person easily got it back.
Now don't think I'm in it for the.money. no, I keep all my animals as a hobby, and breeding later will be a passion..
But yes, probably 5 years from now the banana will be easier to obtain for those of us who are at the bottom. :) I personally can't wait to get a pied......
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Re: Thoughts on Banana prices
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Originally Posted by dart
When cost is so high and the market is so small, it's definitely not something I would be willing to invest in. Supply and demand are what drive prices and somehow I don't forsee enough of a demand to merit purchasing an animal for that price.
I think there is a VERY HIGH demand for banana/coral glows, which is what keeps the prices up. If there wasn't, it would not cost what it does. Over the next few years, the demand will only grow as the price on them comes down and is affordable to more people. Now is probably still a pretty safe time to invest in a banana or 2 if you have the money.
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Originally Posted by RobNJ
I think there is a VERY HIGH demand for banana/coral glows, which is what keeps the prices up. If there wasn't, it would not cost what it does. Over the next few years, the demand will only grow as the price on them comes down and is affordable to more people. Now is probably still a pretty safe time to invest in a banana or 2 if you have the money.
I agree and disagree.
Agree: they're a "newer" morph with the possibilities yo make even more combos and not many available, which droves up the cost
Dis-agrew: most people can't afford them... meaning that most of the ones born will stay with the larger breeders.
Sorry, I'd type more but.mobile sucks. :P
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Re: Thoughts on Banana prices
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Originally Posted by zeion97
Dis-agrew: most people can't afford them... meaning that most of the ones born will stay with the larger breeders.
As far as I know, the people producing CG/Bananas don't have a problem selling them. Prices are going to drop, very likely this year and every year after, making them more affordable to a larger customer base, year after year, increasing demand until they become so common that the supply outweighs the demand.
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I think your going to see the prices come down really quick personally. Supply on the males is no longer low, generation 2's clutches produce male bananas 50% of the time. The only mystery left is how do generation 3 males work.
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Seen one at the Steel City show female for 19k beautiful morph you gotta see it in person to appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by BTennant
Seen one at the Steel City show female for 19k beautiful morph you gotta see it in person to appreciate it.
Which steel city was that?
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Really hope prices do go down in the next few years...these numbers are making me want to cry!! haha!!
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Re: Thoughts on Banana prices
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Originally Posted by Gomojoe
Which steel city was that?
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Steel City Reptile show, Pittsburgh PA.
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Originally Posted by BTennant
Steel City Reptile show, Pittsburgh PA.
Figured, I live by Pueblo Co though and just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything! Lol.
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Spiders 7 years ago were 20g+. Think of this as an investment. It's something that will always sell, and make you money. You have more chance doing better with this morph than putting it into stocks. Unless you know stocks, and never hit red. If I had about 5-10 years under my belt, or more knowledge, I'd take out a loan and buy one.
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i think the prices are more than fair. I will be getting into the banna game this year. I would love a male but thats out of my price range right now. Ive seen females go for as low as 10k but most are between 15-20.
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Originally Posted by Inarikins
I think 15-20K-ish is still normal for females and males are 40K+. They're just now figuring exactly how the genetics work on these guys because they produce different genders so strangely.
Kevin McCurley talked about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkVEgGqWnmc&feature=plcp
(It says Coral Glow but Bananas and Coral Glows are basically the exact same morph and might be)
I had no idea this Morph was possibly sex linked until this thread. Found this article too: http://www.russreptiles.com/resourcegenetics5.htm. no idea how accurate it is as I don't breed the Morph, but it seems to make sense and is described very clearly :)
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Re: Thoughts on Banana prices
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Originally Posted by Anatopism
I had no idea this Morph was possibly sex linked until this thread. Found this article too: http://www.russreptiles.com/resourcegenetics5.htm. no idea how accurate it is as I don't breed the Morph, but it seems to make sense and is described very clearly :)
it is sexed linked sorta... and with a twist. Female bananas produce as expected from any normal gene 25% male banana 25% female banana 25% male non-banana 25% female non-banana
99% of the time males from them will produce 50% female bananas/50% male non-banana. they call these F1 males.
the 1% time the F1 makes a male banana, these are called F2 males
99% of the time F2's will produce 50% male banana/50% female non-banana.
the males produced from them are called F3 and this breeding season should shed some light on what they do.
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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser
it is sexed linked sorta... and with a twist. Female bananas produce as expected from any normal gene 25% male banana 25% female banana 25% male non-banana 25% female non-banana
99% of the time males from them will produce 50% female bananas/50% male non-banana. they call these F1 males.
the 1% time the F1 makes a male banana, these are called F2 males
99% of the time F2's will produce 50% male banana/50% female non-banana.
the males produced from them are called F3 and this breeding season should shed some light on what they do.
This is almost correct, except that the term is Gen 1 and Gen 2. Not F1 and F2.
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I am pretty sure have seen the F designator used more than Gen with referring to the Bananas.
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Originally Posted by jinx667
I am pretty sure have seen the F designator used more than Gen with referring to the Bananas.
That doesn't make it correct :) They are not F2 so why call them that?
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The prices are currently ridiculous and will stay ridiculous for a while yet. Then the price will drop like a ton of bricks very quickly and there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Soon after that we'll all be able to afford them.
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I did not say it was correct, I just said that seems to be the term used.
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