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  • 04-25-2012, 10:42 PM
    AJs Snake House
    Black Pewters or Fireflies?
    Which would you breed for first and why?

    Can someone also answer the following questions?
    1: Current market price on both combo morphs. $800-$1200?
    2: Each combo's breeding possibilities in the future that would make the most profit and produce the most desirable animals.
    3: Current popularity within the ball python community of each combo.
    4: Pics Pics Pics :P
  • 04-25-2012, 11:00 PM
    Slim
    FireFlies! Honestly, because I like them best. That's why I would breed for them first...
  • 04-25-2012, 11:03 PM
    Royal Hijinx
    I think a Fire Fly, because they are pretty popular and you can breed them together to make a BlkEL or a Super Fly. Black Pewter combos also have some nice Super combos as well.

    A lot depends on a direction you want to go. A Fire Fly is highlighter animal and a Black Pewter is more a dark morph, so they are on different ends of the spectrum.
  • 04-25-2012, 11:30 PM
    1nstinct
    I love both in different ways for different breeding projects, i love the black pewter lessers, but i love the dragon flys. but i would breed the fires because of what jinx said can't beat a black eye:D good thing I'm going to try and pick up a nice female fire fly so i have both covered;)
    Tom
  • 04-25-2012, 11:45 PM
    Lair of Dragons
    Re: Black Pewters or Fireflies?
    Buy one of each a male and female...breed them together and make Fire Fly Black Pewters and sell those and cover both markets....lol
    Breed what you want to look at every day and not what sells better...you are the one who has to look at the parents every day you own them so enjoy opening the tub and liking what you see.
    Travis
    lair of Dragons
  • 04-26-2012, 12:31 AM
    bad-one
    Fireflies! I prefer light and bright animals :P
  • 04-26-2012, 01:16 AM
    youbeyouibei
    Re: Black Pewters or Fireflies?
    I just received my 2012 female firefly earlier today (no pics yet to let her settle in but there will be some soon!), so that's where my vote would go. The superfly are incredible looking animals and if this girl holds her color like her mom and dad did, she'll be a great looking animal as well. My vote would be for the fireflies, personally, but I like the lighter animals in general anyway (BEL's, albino, vanilla, butter, etc. currently in my collection) so that's what I tend to gravitate towards. As far as price, I paid $900 for mine and I think that's pretty consistent with the market for that particular morph as of the present.
  • 04-26-2012, 06:37 AM
    yardy
    Re: Black Pewters or Fireflies?
    I love BP pewters (I have a gorgeous male) and they do have a lot of breeding potential, especially combining ghost. There are also a lot less BP pewters around while fireflies are becoming quite common. Bottom line? Both are very beautiful animals but the BP pewter gets my vote.
  • 04-26-2012, 07:44 AM
    masonhall
    Firefly.

    Also, I wonder like a firefly x firefly cross would hatch? A superfiresuperfly?
  • 04-26-2012, 08:43 AM
    oskyle1567
    Fire fly I lighter color snakes like youbeyouibei. If you can afford it i would go with lairofdragons idea that combo would be sick!
  • 04-26-2012, 08:54 AM
    Emilio
    Re: Black Pewters or Fireflies?
    Firefly while more common has alot more demand, and they are much nicer in my humble opinion.
  • 04-26-2012, 12:08 PM
    Mike41793
    Id probably go the firefly route. You can get super pastels and BEL's eventually which are two morphs i also really like.
  • 04-26-2012, 02:17 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Firefly :gj:
  • 04-26-2012, 02:20 PM
    ZBP
    Personally I think Black pewter, I really like pewters and I feel like the fire morph is kind of bland when used in other morphs as well as on its own. This maybe because I am new to ball pythons and can't quite id a fire as well. But that is just my personal opinion.]

    Edit: Well I just looked around at some fire stuff, and I like it a little more then I thought haha, but I would still most likely go with black pewter.
  • 04-26-2012, 04:04 PM
    crbballs
    Re: Black Pewters or Fireflies?
    Ok so i unlike most people, i am going with the pewter. The market price of the pewters are lower than the fire fly, Its just because they are more available to the market. To me the cinnamon/black pastel is a key to any collection. There are a bunch of highlighter morphs but not much that can copy what the cinny does. The urban camo ball is amazing if you haven't seen it, Super Pewter, i wouldn't worry about the market because the price is going to go down year to year so in the end they will be in the same place.
  • 04-28-2012, 03:20 AM
    bones93
    I would vote Firefly. In my opinion they are in higher demand right now. Look at some of the vanilla cream stuff. But the black cream is pretty wicked too. I personally like the brighter stuff but its all preference. By the time yours grows up something else will be hot, so just go with what you like.
  • 05-01-2012, 08:28 PM
    decensored
    black pewters are sweet looking animals but it really depends on your future breeding plans. I would like to have the black pewter on both a personal level and from a business perspective because there is more things I want to do with the black pastel gene than i want to do with the fire.
  • 05-10-2012, 10:42 AM
    Don
    http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/q...ns/Firefly.jpg

    Fireflies! Bright colors that have to be seen in person to have a real appreciation for the gene.
  • 05-11-2012, 12:35 AM
    el8ch
    Firefly!

    The cleaning and brightening ability of the Fire morph is the key ingredient to some powerhouse combos in my opinion.

    I like the Black Pastel Pewters, but the firefly takes the win when I put these two head to head. Just my 2 cents...

    My almost 1 yr old firefly.

    http://www.snakehunter.ca/images/lima-s.jpg
  • 05-12-2012, 09:15 AM
    travis11
    Black Pewters for me! Simply because you can get Black Pewter Blasts and Silver Streaks, depending on what direction you go in. But i love both of those combos. Either one would be killer though, it really comes down to what YOU want to see when you open those tubs.
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