Re:Help with eggs Please-Help

So wanted to post a quick thread on my eggs. This is day 16 and I checked on the eggs today and found what people term a "BOOB Egg". I think. Well at least thats what I think it is. I just kind of want some peace of mind that everything is ok. I feel that this egg is still good but I wanted some more advice. I did candle the eggs again today and they all have more veining inside them, Even the Boob egg. So I will have a few pictures next and I also made a video on you tube. If you can help please do. I think it's still ok but wanted some expert opinions. My youtube account is Reptile36snakeman if anyone needs to see them more. Thanks guys. Don't wanna freak out yet but gettting nervous. Thanks againhttp://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/...siphone033.jpghttp://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/...siphone032.jpghttp://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/...siphone031.jpg

Look perfectly normal and ok to me!! Now just sit back and wait....sigh

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Originally Posted by Wapadi

Look perfectly normal and ok to me!! Now just sit back and wait....sigh

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Thanks for being so prompt, Didn't even get video up yet. Why do they do this. It wasn't like this when it was laid. Wow are you quick with a responce.

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Originally Posted by Taxiballbreeder

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I hate to be a downer, but the lower left of that egg does NOT look normal to me, especially if it wasn't like that when laid. When people talk about a "boob" egg, it's when part of the shell doesn't fully form and is almost clear; again, it does not happen after the eggs are incubating. Can you tell whether the dark "stuff" is actually a color change of the egg, or is it possibly mold growth that you can wipe off?

Sorry missed the part of it being day 16 and finding this!!

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Originally Posted by Annarose15

I hate to be a downer, but the lower left of that egg does NOT look normal to me, especially if it wasn't like that when laid. When people talk about a "boob" egg, it's when part of the shell doesn't fully form and is almost clear; again, it does not happen after the eggs are incubating. Can you tell whether the dark "stuff" is actually a color change of the egg, or is it possibly mold growth that you can wipe off?

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No it looks ok. It's not mold growth so idk. Has good veins it it. I'm posting a video now of it but it's hard to see in the box.

So I have a video up now on YouTube. It's Reptile36snakeman if anyone wants to help some more. Thanks.

Perfectly Normal, its just part of the egg thats not calcified and harden.


Your biggest issue will be moisture on eggs, as using substrateless method, theres no need to use press n seal as itll trap TOO much moisture on the press n seal and drip on the eggs.

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

Perfectly Normal, its just part of the egg thats not calcified and harden.


Your biggest issue will be moisture on eggs, as using substrateless method, theres no need to use press n seal as itll trap TOO much moisture on the press n seal and drip on the eggs.

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So it's ok even though it's day 16. And The inside of the egg tub has some condensation but really not a whole lot and I don't notice much on the press and seal when I took it off today.

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Originally Posted by Taxiballbreeder

So it's ok even though it's day 16. And The inside of the egg tub has some condensation but really not a whole lot and I don't notice much on the press and seal when I took it off today.

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The egg is fine and will hatch.

At this point of incubation You should have any moisture forming on the lid or sides. Substratless method allows soaking of the vermiculite or perlite as eggs wont touch. But by doing this you need to have a means of air flow as the tub will build up moisture too fast.

I use substratless and never used press n seal as theres no need to. Just put lid on and thats it.

Not a darn thing wrong with them eggs. Look great. Congrats. You would be surprised what some eggs look like and still do good

Hi,

If the egg didn't look like that when layed then I think it is getting too wet on the bottom for some reason.


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

If the egg didn't look like that when layed then I think it is getting too wet on the bottom for some reason.


dr del

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So maybe get rid of press n seal wrap I do have a few little holes on each side front and back but might not be enough to get a bit more air flow.

Hi,

I'd check to make sure the eggs aren't touching the perlite - I say that because that was the problem when I saw it on an egg of mine.

You can see how much it swelled up;

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4...attheheck1.jpg

Is the condensaton running down the egg and pooling on that part or anything?

In that last picture it does look as though the wrap is lying on the top of the egg which probably isn't a good thing.


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

I'd check to make sure the eggs aren't touching the perlite - I say that because that was the problem when I saw it on an egg of mine.

You can see how much it swelled up;

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4...attheheck1.jpg

Is the condensaton running down the egg and pooling on that part or anything?

In that last picture it does look as though the wrap is lying on the top of the egg which probably isn't a good thing.


dr del

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No the wrap is a little bit above the eggs. It doesn't touch the eggs. When I checked last Tuesday there was just a little bit of condensation around the inside of the tub on the bottom but very minimal and a tiny bit on the press n seal in the middle. The eggs are on egg crate and they don't come in direct contact with the hatch rite. The pix u sent looks just like what I have going on with mine. So idk would you get rid of wrap and see if more air flow works. Thanks everyone who is helping I really appriciate it.

I have one in my second clutch that looks just like yours. Mine candled with good veins and other than that spot seems to be doing fine.

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Originally Posted by PghBall

I have one in my second clutch that looks just like yours. Mine candled with good veins and other than that spot seems to be doing fine.

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Thanks for the reply. Ya I think it will be ok also as I said it candled well if you looked at my vid on you tube it has good veining. I still want to see if I should remove the press n seal. Previous posters did suggest this and I think I probably should. Idk. This is my first clutch after a very long time out of the hobby and many yrs ago I guess I was just lucky and didn't have an issue like this early on in the incubation process. Just want everything to go smooth. Thanks again.

I left the press n seal on mine. Just open the lid every few days to air it out and I also wipe off any excess moisture from the press n seal and eggs.

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Originally Posted by PghBall

I left the press n seal on mine. Just open the lid every few days to air it out and I also wipe off any excess moisture from the press n seal and eggs.

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Thanks again . I will hopefully have this figured out soon. Maybe check a few times a week not just once a week. Thanks again for your help. I'll try to keep updates going on here and my you tube channel for anyone interested.

if their is anything on it(mold) u can wipe it off with a damp cloth, from the pics you posted it does look a bit brown BUt i still wouldnt give up. im still betting regardless that it will make it.

I don't see a boob egg :confused: Don't ever take anything out unless you know 100% that it's bad/dead. I've had nasty dying/rotting eggs stuck to good eggs throughout the whole process and the good eggs were never affected, so don't worry about that. Those spots are somewhat normal if that's what you are worried about, most likely they will get worse/more noticeable as time goes, but they won't be a problem, you might also get a window from one of those spots. Also, you shouldn't need that press and seal if you are going substrateless. As long as your lid doesn't have gaps it will hold more than enough humidity.

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Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters

I don't see a boob egg :confused: Don't ever take anything out unless you know 100% that it's bad/dead. I've had nasty dying/rotting eggs stuck to good eggs throughout the whole process and the good eggs were never affected, so don't worry about that. Those spots are somewhat normal if that's what you are worried about, most likely they will get worse/more noticeable as time goes, but they won't be a problem, you might also get a window from one of those spots. Also, you shouldn't need that press and seal if you are going substrateless. As long as your lid doesn't have gaps it will hold more than enough humidity.

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That's what I'm thinking that I should get rid of the press n seal. They are 6 quart tubs from sterilite and the lid really doesn't seem like it is totally for lack of a better term sealed or air tight seems a bit loose when u put it on has a little play. So with this said I will prob. Remove it and just keep adding distilled water every few wks or so. To make sure it's humid in the tub. Thanks again

So without starting a new thread thought I would add it to this thread due to it celponcerning the same thing my eggs. So this is day 22 of the incubation process and from my previous posts I opted to remove the press n seal. Now however I feel I probably should not have done this. This am I checked on the eggs and this is what I found. several dimpled eggs I will post these shortley. I did add a bit of distilled water and also added some more hatch rite around the eggs to boost the humidity. Is this why they are dimpling? I also put the press n seal back on. Please comment on poss. reasons for this happining or is it ok and if you have any suggestions for me. I feel I will probably go with vermiculite/perilite mix next year. and get rid of the hatch rite. Thanks again guys. Please help.http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/..._man38/012.jpghttp://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/..._man38/011.jpghttp://i1241[IMG]http://i1241.photob..._man38/009.jpg.photobucket.com/albums/gg508/Snake_man38/010.jpg[/IMG]http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/..._man38/008.jpghttp://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/..._man38/007.jpghttp://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/..._man38/006.jpghttp://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/..._man38/005.jpghttp://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/..._man38/004.jpghttp://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/..._man38/003.jpghttp://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/..._man38/002.jpg



Wanted to add I quickly candled them and they candle well still with good veins.

Anyone here that can look, Much help would be appriciated.:)

You just need to add more water.

As you started off with minimal water levels in the perlite, so once you took seal off it evaporated too fast.

Not the end of world, just add water in all four corners and put lid back on and they will pop out in about 24-48 hours.

Its just not recommended to do press n seal when doing substrateless method as you're able to soak the medium since eggs wont touch it. Use too little with this method you end up with eggs dimpling

Should I remove eggs or just add water my thought was to take out eggs. Add water to a little above saturation of hatch rite then light diffuser again, then put eggs back or should I just add water. Thanks so much for reply. You help a lot of us on here and I appriciate it.

You can do it anyway you want, Eggs are very hardy.

As long as you dont get the eggs wet but maintain 85% humidity or higher they will stay full till last week of incubation. Just start by adding water in the corners of the box. No need to move the eggs at all, be sure water is same temp as incubator