Pastel or Super Pastel

We picked up this girl today from someone who was selling his collection because he was moving. He said she was a Pastel but she was the offspring of two Super Pastels. I was under the impression two Supers only made Supers. Only way would be if one parent was a Pastel. We only paid $70 for her which I feel is a pretty good deal for a pastel and a great deal for a Super. Anyway we were just curious what others thought since to us she looks like a Pastel.

This is a bad picture, it hardly does her justice. I will try to get a better picture tonight.
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I say Pastel. But you are right that is not a good picture. Also, one of the dead giveaways for a Super is the head, which we cannot see here. Also that snake, bad pic or no, seems VERY browned out for a Super, actually pretty brown for even a Pastel of that size.

How much does she weigh?

The breeder said a super pastel x super pastel pairing produced a regular pastel? I didn't even think that was possible. A super pastel to a normal yields all pastel, figured super x super would be all supers.. Somebody correct me please if this information is wrong so I can fix it with my brain. If he had this information wrong I'd be double checking on sex as well. You can't really go wrong with that pricetag though, nice pickup regardless.

You are right that Super X Super = Super. Just, that pic does not look like a Super.

She is a little over 200g and was born in July. I will try to get a picture of her head for tonight.

Am I wrong thinking that two Supers would only make Supers? I was under the impression that Pastel was a CoDominant gene.

I love the reduced amount of spots.

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Doesn't look like a super pastel to me.

Three options:

1. Really low quality super pastel

2. One of the parents was misidentified as a super pastel

3. The guy lied to you.

Yeah, doesn't look like any super I've seen either but it wasn't sold as a super pastel.. I'm just scratching my head over the breeder saying it's the offspring a super pastel x super pastel pairing. She seems super small for being almost a year too, did the breeder mention any feeding problems?

A little over 200g and a July '11 baby? What the heck has she been eating, pinky mice?

It looks pastel to me, and a browned out one at that, especially for the age.

Not a super.

Because of this, parents were not both supers.

Option 4: the guy who sold that BP didn't know what he was talking about.

Doesn't look like a super pastel to me. A better picture would help. As others have said, two supers breeding can only produce supers. Lots of possibilities, hope "she" eats for you. Keep us posted.

I see Pastel as well.

Going by that picture I say pastel. Maybe a better picture could prove otherwise.

I don't see anything that would lead me to believe she's a Super Pastel.

I would vote pastel. Not bright enough and enough extreme blushing. The head would be the final decision maker but dont really need to see it. Even if it is a male you still did ok. The good thing is he sold it as a pastel. Maybe he was misinformed as to what the parents were. Feed that bad boy up and prove it out! Good luck

Doesnt look like a super to me either

I'd bet it's a pastel. You'll just have to prove it out later in breeding...

Looks like a pastel not a super pastel to me.

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Originally Posted by Reptileman044

Looks like a pastel not a super pastel to me.

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I also really really think my girl is a super but was sold as a pastel but had super parents I just cnt figure how to post pics I would rest like to know what you all think I mean really even just compareing her to lots of other pics of pastels her head and face has a lot mire white than any other and are there anythings that would give her away if she were a super?

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Originally Posted by snakeluvr#3

I also really really think my girl is a super but was sold as a pastel but had super parents I just cnt figure how to post pics I would rest like to know what you all think I mean really even just compareing her to lots of other pics of pastels her head and face has a lot mire white than any other and are there anythings that would give her away if she were a super?

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Create a photobucket account (it's free) upload the pictures to photobucket, once the pictures are uploaded to photobucket, you will have to option to copy the "IMG" code. Once you have copied the "IMG" code you can then paste it into a post here on BP.net.

If you can't get that to work, feel free to email me the image and I can post it for you: The.Serpent.Merchant@gmail.com