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so i am realy confused. i never herd of this before, and i dont know what to do.
ive herd of snakes breaking OUT of their tanks but never INTO a tank.

i took my snake out of my big tank and put her in a smaller tank by herself and she ended up back in my 200 gallon with everyone else. this has happened three times and every time i fix everything but now she ruined my lid for the smaller tank.

ideas please.

What are you making the lids out of? and how are you securing the lids?

It sound like you have multiple snakes in one cage. this is a very bad idea and can end tragically.

What are the temperatures/humidity in both cages, and what are you using to heat them?

I am staying out of this one lol

so her tank has a locking wire lid. and no she is the only snake. the others... look up "little zoo"



so yes siss is back in "the peitree dish". but it is by her choice.
and everything is what it says for bps.

If I remember this is the snake that was living with the anoles, frogs and fish yes? I remember that thread.

I'm glad you put her into her own tank but it's obviously not secure enough. And unless the other tank was left open I'm not too sure how she would have lifted the screen top.
Clips need to be on all four sides of her new enclosure, as well as clips on the other enclosure for their safety. Cage clips are like 2$ a package so their worth their weight in gold.



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What type of wire is it? is it like a mesh or something like chicken wire?

How does it lock? is your BP pushing through the wire or lifting the entire lid?

It sounds like you need to actually buy the screen wire tops made for tanks. Whatever and however you are making the tops just isn't working and the clips will only work with the Petstore screen tops. Do you have a picture of the tops or can you explain how your making them? How they're fitting on the tanks?


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To me it sounds like she is making a case for her bp to go live with the other animals like they are all friends.

So, you expect me to believe that on three sperate occasions, your BP escaped from her enclosure and then broke into her old 200 gallon tank? Three times? And never went anywhere else like a warm spot under the fridge during any of these three successful escapes?

Sounds completely plausible to me :rolleyes:

Thats what I think slim

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Originally Posted by kendrab

so i am realy confused. i never herd of this before, and i dont know what to do.
ive herd of snakes breaking OUT of their tanks but never INTO a tank.

i took my snake out of my big tank and put her in a smaller tank by herself and she ended up back in my 200 gallon with everyone else. this has happened three times and every time i fix everything but now she ruined my lid for the smaller tank.

ideas please.

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Build better lids.

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Originally Posted by dr del

Build better lids.

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And a better story...

What kind of tank? Many of the glass tanks on the market are able to be locked (at least the ones i have seen). I secure my tub with binder clips so he is unable to get out.

Personally, I don't think you should own a ball python.

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Personally, I don't think you should own a ball python.

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Bit harsh surely?

They seem to be making an honest attempt at correcting the housing even if there are wrinkles still to smooth out.


dr del

Yes I guess it was a bit harsh, but I feel that for any pet, reptiles more so than others it seems, the care taker should take some time to figure out what they need to do BEFORE they get they animal so that they can judge if they are going to be able to properly care for it and provide it with an environment very similar to it's own. In this case the person bought the animal with very little prior knowledge on taking care of a bp. Sure they're trying hard now which is good, but you should always be prepared and responsible for any animal you purchase.

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ideas please.

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Give your bp to someone who will care for it properly. I HIGHLY doubt the snake has broken out of its tank and gone back into the "zoo" 3 times...
But then again i could be wrong. If I was a bp i know i would love to live in a cold, damp environment with other species of herps from completely different continents. Oh yea and swimming in the "pond" and getting bit by the fish would be a real treat too!

Oh.
My.
Biscuit.

Really.
Really? I agree entirely with Slim.
If she's getting out and going somewhere else, it's because something isn't right...?
Or maybe she misses her friends.

I'd like to give my 02 cents....my corn snake Skittles escape twice from his PLASTIC mesh lid, the lightweight ones, even when it had both cage clips AND books stacked on the sides of the lid. If your snake is crafty they can get out with a plastic lid! I found him both time he escaped as a baby, and he was so small I didn't even know he could reach the lid let alone crawl out. I swapped him onto a METAL lid and bam! He's in there good, not getting out. Cage clips are on there too.
So my recommendation: cage clips on a metal lid. Plastic lightweight lids will have your snakes escaping!!!

Also no need to be mean to people as long as they express genuine concern at the situation and an honest desire to fix it which I do see here. Now whether it happens or not, we won't know that yet, but I do see a desire to fix things.

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Give your bp to someone who will care for it properly. I HIGHLY doubt the snake has broken out of its tank and gone back into the "zoo" 3 times...
But then again i could be wrong. If I was a bp i know i would love to live in a cold, damp environment with other species of herps from completely different continents. Oh yea and swimming in the "pond" and getting bit by the fish would be a real treat too!

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Oh and having them take "rides" on her back!

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Also no need to be mean to people as long as they express genuine concern at the situation and an honest desire to fix it which I do see here. Now whether it happens or not, we won't know that yet, but I do see a desire to fix things.

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shelliebear, there is quite a history with this one....

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...e-zoo-together

This thread is a joke! It is literally a joke, someone is yanking your chain! Someone is sitting in front of a keyboard, giggling, getting a kick out of the fact that this thread is now 3 pages long!

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shelliebear, there is quite a history with this one....

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...e-zoo-together

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Ok I am a noob ball keeper and even I could see everything wrong with both threads! Oy!

On that note, my ball loves to try to find ways to escape. Metal screen lid + tank clips keeps her in. Even so ive forgotten my clips many times and she still has yet to get out. A better lid is what you need. $10 at your local pet store will get you one.

I've had a few questions and problems with my snake (again I am a noob keeper) but everytime I've posted here I've received amazing advice. If ever there was someone to listen to, it's the people who post here. Listen to them! They give this advise because they care about The Animal above all else.

I really hope you take a step back and really think about what you are doing to your snake...


*MissMishyyy*

Lol how did I miss this yesterday? Come on really? Really?

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This thread is a joke! It is literally a joke, someone is yanking your chain! Someone is sitting in front of a keyboard, giggling, getting a kick out of the fact that this thread is now 3 pages long!

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While I agree with you about this thread, the original "little zoo" thread was backed up by pictures and a video on facebook...a complete train wreck.

ok lets start with the little tank. it is a 40 breeder with the sliding locking wire mesh lid. the first time was my falt for not having the tank locked. the second time im not sure what happened. my husband told me that she was in there. the third time she worked at the corner of the lid and scraped her nose up and has a couple little scrapes on her sides.
the 200 gallon was a fish tank so it has little round holes on the top for cords. i have the one end set up with the pond and filter and reptile water heater so i have the cords going in and i put a rock on the hole to keep everyone in. she pushed the rock aside and i found her half in the 200 gallon.
so you may think im making things up but i know what is going on in my tanks. maybe im reading too much into what she does, but thats me.
ill keep reading and trying to take the advice of all of you.
i do have a question........ say i came in and said "I have a 200 gallon tank with a pond and plants for my ball python. trying to find other plants that she could have in with her." would my reactions be the same.
other than adding the other creatures all i did was for her....
when i first got her i did everything the way the books said. i got the ball python set up from the store- tank, over tank heater, under tank heater, water dish, half log for a hide, and the wood bedding for them. i made sure that the tank staied at the right temp and that the humidity staid between 40%- 60%. it took her three to four days to shed and it was in soooooooooooo many different peices and her eyecaps wouldnt come off.:(
she had indents in her eyes. it was absolutely horrable. the vet just kept telling me "try....."
so i started with the dirt and plants. things started looking up. her eyecaps came off.... but the humidity scared me. it staid at 70% and higher.
so i fiddled with things for the next 4 years and then finally got everything that i needed for the pond. i got the plexie glass and the aquarium glue (for fish tanks and anything holding water). and i started the pond. i got it holding water quite nicely and put rocks (for fish tanks) in there for colar.
with in two weeks of her having her pond she had her first real good shed. she got both of her eyecaps off and all her shed in one piece.
the pump, filter has hard tubes to make like a water fall and siss will move thta up and down and control the humidity in the tank. (yes i know probably not intentional) the filter will actually say what the humidity level is. if the water is spraying (comes out about an inch) the humidity is high and if it is under the water to just keep it moving the humidity is low.
i even made her hide a "rodent hole". i dug down and put piping tubing tipe for her to get into her den. and that is covered by a plastic "lid" (just a tank bottem piece for filtering) that i put the glue on the edges to make it where it wouldnt hurt her.
so now everything has been going for tree to four monthes.
all this time ive been talking with a friend that breeds diffrent reptiles and frogs. i asked him what would be ok to go in there. like everyone else says nothing.
well i told him about one problem i have alwas had. the bugs! nats and flies, nothing too bad.
so he said that alll reality green anoles can live in the TANK. they can live in the temp and humidity in the tank. he said that if i got them from the pet store to make sure to do a mite- be- gone and wait two weeks and do it again just to be sure since i dont want to have to tare the whole tank down. also he said that IF the anoles got eaten then i would have to de pestacite her for a precotion.
so other than the creatures that i added, everything was for her.

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Lol how did I miss this yesterday? Come on really? Really?

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X2...... Holy crap.....

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I have one question then I'm walking away from anything you ever have to say about anything ever...

IF THE HUMIDITY WAS TOO HIGH WHY THE HECK DID YOU INSTALL A POND?

Obviously when you installed the dirt and plants and the humidity was too high and wouldn't go down, the correct thing to do would be to take out the dirt and the plants.

If it weren't for the fact that I don't have enough money to care for a likely sick, mite-infested snake, I would drive the 4 and a half hours to meet somewhere to take your snake off your hands. Obviously you have no desire to care for her properly and shouldn't have her.

You definitely need to get a better lid on her tank! If she can't get out of her tank, then she can't get in that tank. If you don't have a lid that keeps her in you need to get a different tank or switch to a tub and lock the lid on.

I genuinely don't think you should own a Ball Python. Or animals for that matter.
Walking away from this now.
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Im not even reading your huge response kendra... I stopped at the part where it said "my bp pushed the rock out of the way and then went through the hole back into the 200gallon tank." theres no way a bp would push a rock out of the way and crawl through a hole back into a cold, damp tank. Theyre cold blooded, they seek out HEAT.

You know what. Donate your bp to science so research can be done. Because CLEARLY you have the most interesting bp on the planet!

OK,

I'm going to lock this to give everyone a chance to calm down for a bit.


dr del