Keeping humidity up

What is a good way of keeping humidity up in egg tub....i have a wet rag in there now....

I use perlite I purchase from a local nursery.

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im using vermiculite...

Use a tub that seals well, locking lid tubs work great.
Use egg crate sitting on top of vermiculite or perilite,
Add water until it touches the bottom of the egg crate.
If you have to much humidity you can then add a couple holes to ventilate.

I saw someone else using press and seal. I have adopted this method as well. I had a humidity problem with my first clutch this year. It was a four egg clutch and all four dimpled in about 20 days into incubation.

I use a substrate free method and I have a fan in my incubator that runs constantly. With the fan running all the time there was too much airflow into the tub between the lid and the tub and my water reservoir dried up. One of the embryo/eggs died. I carefully poured more water into my reservoir and I put press and seal under the lid with a few 1/8 inch holes and the other three recovered and seemed to absorb a little moisture. The 3 survivors are due to pip this Thursday and I fully expect them to live. Hope this story answers some questions.

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Originally Posted by coolballsdave

I saw someone else using press and seal. I have adopted this method as well. I had a humidity problem with my first clutch this year. It was a four egg clutch and all four dimpled in about 20 days into incubation.

I use a substrate free method and I have a fan in my incubator that runs constantly. With the fan running all the time there was too much airflow into the tub between the lid and the tub and my water reservoir dried up. One of the embryo/eggs died. I carefully poured more water into my reservoir and I put press and seal under the lid with a few 1/8 inch holes and the other three recovered and seemed to absorb a little moisture. The 3 survivors are due to pip this Thursday and I fully expect them to live. Hope this story answers some questions.

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If you use a tub that seals well there is no need for seal a meal,
Seal a meal isn't necessary with the substrateless method and is a good way to get too much humidity imo.

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Here is a pic of how i set up my tubs, this method has always worked great for me.

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Too much humidity can make them dimple....the accurite says hi... should i take off the saran wrap..and just seal the tub with the top...

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

If you use a tub that seals well there is no need for seal a meal,
Seal a meal isn't necessary with the substrateless method and is a good way to get too much humidity imo.

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can a tub get too humid? From what I understand as long as there is no condensation on the walls or lid of the tubs the humidity doesn't matter. Am I wrong about this?

Too much humidity will make them mold, not dimple in.

If you use a tub that has a lid that seals well then you shouldn't need seal a meal.
We use 7qt locking lid sterilte tubs and they seal so well we add 4 tiny holes for ventilation...
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can a tub get too humid? From what I understand as long as there is no condensation on the walls or lid of the tubs the humidity doesn't matter. Am I wrong about this?

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A tub with proper humidity should have light perspiration on the sides of the tub, none on the lid if possible.
A tub can definitely get too humid.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

A tub with proper humidity should have light perspiration on the sides of the tub, none on the lid if possible.
A tub can definitely get too humid.

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Persperation on the sides of the tub is from temperature flux inside the tub. This is why about ten days before hatch the inside walls of the tub condense water. The snakes body temp increases beyond the incubator ambient temp increasing temps in the tub causing condensation. I personally don't like perspiration in my tubs till the snakes are about to come out. I'm not disputing your methods, I think we each have different methods that work.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

If you use a tub that seals well there is no need for seal a meal,
Seal a meal isn't necessary with the substrateless method and is a good way to get too much humidity imo.

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how can you have too much humidity? the perfect egg box is to keep the eggs dry and have 100% humidity. if you are getting condensation too early. this isn't a humidity problem but a difference in temp problem which will cause condensation.

im using vermiculite too, I use a fine grade. I fill the tub half way with vermiculite. I add water, just enough for it to clump up when you squeeze it. But not so wet it drips when you squeeze it. I separate my eggs. I dont leave them all together. I put the eggs in the vermiculite so that half the egg is covered by the vermiculite. Most of the time I will cover the eggs with vermiculite. Then use a clean dry paint brush to clear of the extra vermiculite.

I then put a sheet of press and seal over the tub. Then I put the lid on.. I vent them about once ever two weeks or so.. After day 40 I will start venting once a week. At day 55, I will peal back 1/4 of the press and seal. And put the lid back on. Its normal for them to dimple some a week or two before hatching. They dont always do that, but sometimes they do.

If they are dimpling 20,30,40 days in. Your humidity may be to low. I normally cut my eggs on day 55. Once I cut I will take the press and seal all the way off.

Doing it this way, I have not lost an egg in 5 years, from incubation issues. I have lost eggs that were kicked out. Eggs that were weak to begin with. But not heat or humidity issues.