NERD... Ball/Retic?!

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...66702912_n.jpg

It's cute...but I prefer my retics to stay retics and my balls to stay balls lol I would have never thought to cross the two...

Love it...my husband had a thought today....If we breed burms and such to balls till they are like 7/8 burm and only 1/8 ball we could then transport them across state lines right?

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Originally Posted by Wapadi

Love it...my husband had a thought today....If we breed burms and such to balls till they are like 7/8 burm and only 1/8 ball we could then transport them across state lines right?

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Um no. That would just be ammo to go after BPs as well.

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Originally Posted by Wapadi

Love it...my husband had a thought today....If we breed burms and such to balls till they are like 7/8 burm and only 1/8 ball we could then transport them across state lines right?

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No, The Lacey Act also includes hybrids.

Any more info on this? Normal retic or morph? It kinda looks like a golden child:confused:

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Originally Posted by cmack91

Any more info on this? Normal retic or morph? It kinda looks like a golden child:confused:

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I haven't kept up with this but yes it is a golden child ball/retic

That was 2010, I am curious to see it now ! Anyone seen any updates??

No updates on retic/ball but here is a link to the burmball.
http://www.pireptiles.co.uk/theburmball.htm

They had pics all over FB about a week ago.

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Originally Posted by modean02

They had pics all over FB about a week ago.

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How did I miss them?

I think the hybrids look pretty, bu the idea of keeping and breeding them makes me nervous. At least with true species we know what their typical temperment is like, and probable causes if they don't act "right". Also, the average (and maximum! :O) size for these hybrids unknown, and who knows how much it could vary?

I like the second one in these pics but head wise they just look like weird Rainbow Boas to me.

Updated pics would be nice.

http://www.darksidereptiles.com/foru...p?topic=4518.0

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Originally Posted by bubblz

I like the second one in these pics but head wise they just look like weird Rainbow Boas to me.

Updated pics would be nice.

http://www.darksidereptiles.com/foru...p?topic=4518.0

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But again those pics are from 2010... Something here has me curious, is it a failure, Is it sterile hence the reason for no real news on it.. I have asked on there facebook for updated info... Not that I am against crossing species but more information would be nice.

Do u have both of NERDs accts added?

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I'm sorry, but I'm against hybrids. They may look nice, but I would prefer to breed like species to like species. ie; balls to balls, bloods to bloods etc.

I'm emotionally against hybrids, but can't think of any rational reason to be against them--they are all pets, and they're never going to be in the wild, so can't contaminate the gene pools of wild populations. I don't see that a burm-ball is really significantly more Frankenstein's monster-ish than a Calico piebald cinnamon whatever ball python.

Nature doesn't adore the purity of species the way we seem to--natural hybridizing occurs along the boundaries of similar species, and it is part of the engine of evolution, not an 'abomination'. (As polar bears are forced inland by shrinking pack ice, 'Grolers' are spotted--polar/grizzly hybrids). Granted, a retic and ball would never meet in the wild...but...these animals are not in the wild, are they?

I have absolutely nothing against glofish, or neon mice, so why be fussed over a Burm-ball?

glofish and neon mice are like apples and oranges compared to this. those are genetically engineered animals and you KNOW what you are buying.

all it takes with hybrids like this (assuming they are fertile) is for someone to breed em down to the point where it could be passed off as either species, then be sold as that species, when in reality it isn't. then someone breeds it and so on and so forth and while they think they are producing balls, they are really producing mutts and "infecting" the gene pool with a retic or burm or w/e

nature is nature, it can do what it wants, just because they wont see the wild does not mean we should force hybridize them just for the fun of it. i also think comparing a few mutated genes that naturally occur in a single species with a hybrid of two species is just a horribly gross analogy, it's no where near the same thing

Nice looking hybrid. The burm ball will always be my favorite though. :)