Assist feeding question

So I have a female normal that's about 1yearold and has lost a substantial amount of weight.
Has been off feed for about 7months and counting.
Doesn't show any interest in feed.
When should I consider this as an option?

Wait scratch that. I guess she's older than a year. As I just realized. She got to 100grams and that's when she stopped feeding.

And I think it was about when she was 9-10months old that she went off feed.

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Did you mean to type in 1000 grams, or 100 grams?

Hi,

Have you triple checked everything about the enclosure and thought back to what changed around the time she stopped eating for you?


dr del

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Originally Posted by Slim

Did you mean to type in 1000 grams, or 100 grams?

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No I meant 1000.00

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

Have you triple checked everything about the enclosure and thought back to what changed around the time she stopped eating for you?


dr del

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Well she went off feed originally because she was my nephews and she left my house to his in San Francisco and I live in socal
she ate 2-3 tines with him than went off feed.
I assume it was because of the colder temps and he didn't house her correctly for the longest time. That's why I have her now.



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Hi,

It's not uncommon for them to take a feeding break at that weight - it's kind of the snake equivalent of "the terrible two's" :)

Have you tried alternative prey items? You have quite a few options at that size - from mice and chicks through ASF's to gerbils.

What was she eating before?


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

It's not uncommon for them to take a feeding break at that weight - it's kind of the snake equivalent of "the terrible two's" :)

Have you tried alternative prey items? You have quite a few options at that size - from mice and chicks through ASF's to gerbils.

What was she eating before?


dr del

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And, how much weight loss is "a substantial amount"?

She knows how to eat, and therefore doesn't need assisting. Either something is still wrong with her environment, the temp of her food, or she just doesn't feel like eating.

You cant legally get ASF's and gerbils here in Ca. What is he eating rats or mice? live or FT? Even changing from one to the other might encourage him to eat.

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Originally Posted by Reptilecam

You cant legally get ASF's and gerbils here in Ca. What is he eating rats or mice? live or FT? Even changing from one to the other might encourage him to eat.

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Not legally. But doesn't mean you can't get them in CA. Some reptile stores breed them. You just need to know which ones....
:/

But I still wouldn't feed ASFs due to prices being $25/ rat here in Norcal. And the limited resources to get them....

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What are you attempting to feed her. I have a female that is around the same size as yours, only she is nearing 5 years old! She is very very very picky about her environment and her food. Often, I have to switch her over to live for a few feedings because she'll stop eating f/t.

I would try a live small rat or weaned rat if you have not already done so.

Sorry to respond so late.

She weighed in at a little over 1000grams
Before the fast,
Now she is 720(+/-)

She was feeding on small rats/weened kinda sized.
Than got bit by one because she refused pre killed and thawed.
After that bite she would only take retired breeder mice.
Than stuck to mice.
I tried feeding her different color rat pups with mouse sent.
Didn't take.
Tried mice with rat sent.
Didn't take.
Now she is in my rack with 85degrees hot side and about 70-75 cool.
Humidity is always high around 75%
But she had a lot of bad sheds when my nephew had her and had collapsed eye caps stuck on.
She just shed again and her eyes are nice and plump again.
She still pees urates often and is active. Slithers around a lot during the night.
I've tried feeding early morning, late night and mid afternoon to no avail.
I even tried leaving a rat pup with its eyes closed and she ended up smushing it by laying on top of it while it was on the warm side.
No bite marks or saliva on it so I know she didn't kill it and leave it.

I would try gerbils but her heads kinda small and Idk how big a gerbil is :-)

But I'll look into it.



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Hi,

Did you go back and try regular unscented mice?

It's not really a problem if they just eat mice you know - despite what some people say. :)


dr del

I agree with Derek.

I have several devoted mouse eaters. Sure they are a little more trouble to feed, but they eat and grow and breed just fine on mice.

These guys live to try our patience sometimes.

Gale

Yeah I've tried a bit more times than I could patiently say.
And trust me I have a mouse eater and she's a BIG GIRL.
Gave me a 7 egg clutch last year that was my first and hers :-)

I actually just picked her up and feel so sad
She is sooo SUPER skinny and making me worried.
I'm gonna try small mice or even a hopper or pinky rat and see if the small mice or hopper annoy her enough to feed on it.

I'll take a few shots of her so you can see how skinny she got.

I wish I could give her like a mouse shake or rat smoothie :-)

Sorry a friend made a joke about that and made me crack up .



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Sorry to respond so late.

Now she is in my rack with 85degrees hot side and about 70-75 cool.
Humidity is always high around 75%




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85 hot spot is a little cool. You want at least 88-92
Maybe she'll be more interested in food with warmer temps

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Originally Posted by satomi325

85 hot spot is a little cool. You want at least 88-92
Maybe she'll be more interested in food with warmer temps

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The others in the rack seem to not mind. But hey a bump up may be beneficial for all any who.

Also my rack is back heat not belly heat.
Its for sub-adult worms :D

But I also don't have a reostat or herpstat attached its just straight into the wall and the temps are pretty consistent
no real fluctuations unless its a HOT socal day. Gotta get one though.
Don't know which exactly I should get.
I hear less problems with the herpstat

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Originally Posted by satomi325

85 hot spot is a little cool. You want at least 88-92
Maybe she'll be more interested in food with warmer temps

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I think the 70-75 cool is probably more potentially detrimental than the low hot spot. Most people consider 75 the absolute minimum.

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I think the 70-75 cool is probably more potentially detrimental than the low hot spot. Most people consider 75 the absolute minimum.

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Eep .. k I'll bump for sure.
On the bright side my big normal Sookie (one my user name inspired my names Ernie) started eating again too. But since her clutch last season she has been off and on eating. But she likes to binge I guess.
She likes a meal for for a queen
5-6 large mice a sitting. Than I call it quits.
She would keep eating if I let her.

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Just a thought - what time of day are you feeding?

My guys eat much better in the evening than any other time of day. I tried a morning feeding this week due to my schedule, and I had a bunch of refusals, even with my consistent eaters.

Well my mojo, butter, pin and albino eat no matter the time of day. My 2 normals are the pickiest and sookie my big girl will only eat before the sun goes down or after 1 am.
The normal in question that hasn't eaten used to eat like a fiend.
She was my garbage disposal.
She would eat when ever I offered.

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