Direction/Opinions Needed. Just beginning.

Just beginning to get into ball pythons and am not sure which of these three options would be best.

Start with...

2011 Male Mojave

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Pair of 2011 100% Het Albinos

or

2011 1.0 Orange Ghost male / 2011 0.1 50% het Orange Ghost female

Which of these three options makes the most sense to start off with? Not sure what the future is looking for Orange ghosts, mojaves etc. Maybe you have a whole different idea as to how to start off. I have about $200 I set aside for this at the moment and if I decide this is something I want to get into more, I will redirect other herp projects. Thanks in advance.

The only one of those options that I would even consider starting out is the 100% het Albino pair. Expecially if you do decide you want to breed in the future.
Personally I would recommend getting the females that you like first. They take longer to reach breeding age and size, roughly 2-3 years. And males can be ready to breed in 6-12 months.

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Originally Posted by C&H Exotic Morphs

The only one of those options that I would even consider starting out is the 100% het Albino pair. Expecially if you do decide you want to breed in the future.
Personally I would recommend getting the females that you like first. They take longer to reach breeding age and size, roughly 2-3 years. And males can be ready to breed in 6-12 months.

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x2 I would get 2 females now and get a male later on.

Grab some females. Find morphs that you like. I'm a really big fan hypos, so the OG's sound good to me. Again it's all personal preference, get what you are into.

I'm just starting as well and originally wanted to get a male and female, and now that people are telling me to get females first I think it sounds like a great idea. I purchased a Spider het Albino and am planning on purchasing a normal het albino too, but im not 100% sure. So I'd suggest you also go with 1 or 2 females first to get them to 1500 grams and then look into getting a male because they are able to breed much earlier.

Het albinos for sure ;)

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Originally Posted by Reptilezone1

Just beginning to get into ball pythons and am not sure which of these three options would be best.

Start with...

2011 Male Mojave

or

Pair of 2011 100% Het Albinos

or

2011 1.0 Orange Ghost male / 2011 0.1 50% het Orange Ghost female

Which of these three options makes the most sense to start off with? Not sure what the future is looking for Orange ghosts, mojaves etc.

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For breeding, I say the best choice out of the 3 is the male orange ghost and female het ghost pair. Even though the het ghost is visually a normal, she is still worth something just because she is female and will gain value as she reaches breeding weight. A visual male ghost is good to breed to morph het ghosts. Maybe pick up a 100% het girl too. They're really cheap these days.

I wouldn't go for the het albino pair just because the male is just a normal het. Male hets get obsolete fast the moment you get a visual baby to take his place. And het to het breeding is tricky because you wouldn't know if a normal looking baby is a het or not. The het male and possible het babies might be difficult to sell in the future. If you want albinos, I suggest getting a visual male and het female.

And if you really want a mojave, get a female. Like others have said, it takes longer to grow up a female to maturity than a male.

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Originally Posted by satomi325

For breeding, I say the best choice out of the 3 is the male orange ghost and female het ghost pair. Even though the het ghost is visually a normal, she is still worth something just because she is female and will gain value as she reaches breeding weight. A visual male ghost is good to breed to morph het ghosts. Maybe pick up a 100% het girl too. They're really cheap these days.

I wouldn't go for the het albino pair just because the male is just a normal het. Male hets get obsolete fast the moment you get a visual baby to take his place. And het to het breeding is tricky because you wouldn't know if a normal looking baby is a het or not. The het male and possible het babies might be difficult to sell in the future. If you want albinos, I suggest getting a visual male and het female.

And if you really want a mojave, get a female. Like others have said, it takes longer to grow up a female to maturity than a male.

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I agree with this. Id go for the ghost pair. And then if you like mojaves get a female mojave het ghost.

I like the ghost pair as well.

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Originally Posted by satomi325

For breeding, I say the best choice out of the 3 is the male orange ghost and female het ghost pair. Even though the het ghost is visually a normal, she is still worth something just because she is female and will gain value as she reaches breeding weight. A visual male ghost is good to breed to morph het ghosts. Maybe pick up a 100% het girl too. They're really cheap these days.

I wouldn't go for the het albino pair just because the male is just a normal het. Male hets get obsolete fast the moment you get a visual baby to take his place. And het to het breeding is tricky because you wouldn't know if a normal looking baby is a het or not. The het male and possible het babies might be difficult to sell in the future. If you want albinos, I suggest getting a visual male and het female.

And if you really want a mojave, get a female. Like others have said, it takes longer to grow up a female to maturity than a male.

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I have to disagree with you about the Ghost pair. Now yes the male is a visual and any baby will be 100% het from breeding him. But the female is only 50% het so she is pretty much a coin flip. When 100% het Ghost female hatchlings are only about $100 it doesn't make any sense to take a chance on a 50% possible het.
If the OP was considering a 1.0 Orange Ghost and a 0.1 100% Orange Ghost I would recommend that over the 100% het Albino pair.

I would suggest you pick up the single male and see if you are compatible with ball pythons, and vice versa.

I've seen a lot of people jump into this hobby with plans to start breeding before they even have their first BP.

What's the rush? The world isn't running out of BPs anytime soon, and neither is it begging for more breeders.

Get one and enjoy it....then go from there.

Thank you all for your input and advice.

To the previous poster, I do want to get into it slowly. Only planning on getting one or two, however I wanted to get one or two that wouldn't depreciate on me over time if I decided to sell them because I wasn't into ball pythons. I.e. it would make more sense for me to get a normal female ball python over a male normal, because over time the female would gain more value and male would be next to worthless. That's sort of where I was going with this thread.

I am now considering just getting a male albino and then picking up adult female normals locally and have them ready for when he matures.

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Originally Posted by C&H Exotic Morphs

I have to disagree with you about the Ghost pair. Now yes the male is a visual and any baby will be 100% het from breeding him. But the female is only 50% het so she is pretty much a coin flip. When 100% het Ghost female hatchlings are only about $100 it doesn't make any sense to take a chance on a 50% possible het.
If the OP was considering a 1.0 Orange Ghost and a 0.1 100% Orange Ghost I would recommend that over the 100% het Albino pair.

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I completely missed the 50% part. In that case i would just save up and get a female mojave. Maybe a mojave het ghost if you like ghosts and wanna go in that direction.

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Originally Posted by Reptilezone1

To the previous poster, I do want to get into it slowly. Only planning on getting one or two, however I wanted to get one or two that wouldn't depreciate on me over time if I decided to sell them because I wasn't into ball pythons. I.e. it would make more sense for me to get a normal female ball python over a male normal, because over time the female would gain more value and male would be next to worthless.

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Very prudent of you. Just keep in mind that there is worth beyond the value of these animals. Own it because you have an interest in it, not for it's value, and you will always come out ahead in the long run.

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Originally Posted by C&H Exotic Morphs

I have to disagree with you about the Ghost pair. Now yes the male is a visual and any baby will be 100% het from breeding him. But the female is only 50% het so she is pretty much a coin flip. When 100% het Ghost female hatchlings are only about $100 it doesn't make any sense to take a chance on a 50% possible het.
If the OP was considering a 1.0 Orange Ghost and a 0.1 100% Orange Ghost I would recommend that over the 100% het Albino pair.

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I still have to go with the ghost pair. I saw the 50%, but a breeder size normal girl is still worth more than the 100% het albino male. I wrote that in my previous post as well as getting a 100% het girl since they're cheap.

Plus that leaves the op with another female for breeding.

And once you get a visual albino male from the het to het pairing, that het male is currently pointless to have as a breeder. Then the op has an extra male, which could be difficult to rehome if he chooses not to keep it.

Either way, in the end, I think the op should just get a female or two now. Then think if males at a later time.....

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Originally Posted by Reptilezone1

To the previous poster, I do want to get into it slowly. Only planning on getting one or two, however I wanted to get one or two that wouldn't depreciate on me over time if I decided to sell them because I wasn't into ball pythons. I.e. it would make more sense for me to get a normal female ball python over a male normal, because over time the female would gain more value and male would be next to worthless. That's sort of where I was going with this thread.

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I must have read over this.
If this is what youre really interested in then i suggest buying gold. Its only going up in value and you dont have to feed/water it.