I love being a bp owner

My 22inch male is doing good. He loves the heat mat, just took him a bit to get the hang of it (previous owner used lamps)
Maybe ill try feeding in a few days, as hes a little guy and he didnt eat last week case of shedding

My mat and temps are correct, but hes cold to the touch, is this simply how cold blooded animals feel?

after mine sit on their UTH's for a few hours they are warm. A BP shouldn't feel ice cold but remember how high our bod temperature is compared to theirs.

i would wait a full 7 days from the day you got him to let him settle in. try not to candle him or feed him until then.

Mine feel cold at times and warm at other depends on where the snake wanted to lay if your temps are correct this shouldnt be an issue. Remember we function at aprox 98.3 so a 80(ish) degree snake will feel cool to the touch sometimes.

Also, I have noticed a few times you mentioned your BP didn't eat because of shed ??

You can feed while in shed, I wouldn't attempt live but F/T is ok to offer !

Hmm, the guy told me not to feed right before or after, like a week either way..

Yeah and im tryn not to touch him, i wanted to make sure he was still there and everything was fine lol, hes just so neat
The guy that owned him also said it was ok to handle (but i trust youz guyz better, especially merchant, hes a bo$$
He said he "trained them" to be handled by putting them in his pockets, and handling them all day, the snakes he had (he had soooo many) all seemed healthy, and had fierce appetites (one grabbed the rat, tongs, and almost a hand (this was a full sized female red tail, so a hand would not be wise to put in its mouth haha
Well ill try to leave him be, easier now that the tank is stable and the temp has been 94 since 2, so i seem to have a handle on heat till my new tstat arrives.
Man, snakes are awesome.
On a side note, the feeder rat he game me seems too big, its deff a smidge thicker than Loki

Oh yeah
60points to merchant for being so smart all the time

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, the feeder rat he game me seems too big, its deff a smidge thicker than Loki

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Slightly thicker is fine.

Okay, well, i may just giive this one to my friends bp, ill pick up somthing fresh next week

Eating in shed depends on the snake fell free to offer but I would wait considering this is a new snake to you I would wait a week before I offer at all. Gives your little guy a chance to settle in and adjust.

Yesyes, thats my game plan, plus that way he has time to get hungry. This is week 2 however, even with one this small thats no issue right?

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Eating in shed depends on the snake fell free to offer but I would wait considering this is a new snake to you I would wait a week before I offer at all. Gives your little guy a chance to settle in and adjust.

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You can try to feed during shed, there isn't anything wrong with doing so. They can't see very well during the first phase of the shed cycle and generally feel like crap. Some will eat no problem others will not. You just need to see what your BP wants.

The same applies for not handling a new snake for the first week or so. This is a generalization that we make to help ensure a smooth transition. Some BP's will eat for you the day you get them, others will not. By leaving them alone you drastically increase your chances of a successful first feeding (not because they are more hungry though that might help in some cases) but because they have had time to settle in and feel secure in their new home.

There are somethings in this hobby that are absolute (like UTH's need a thermostat) but there are also a lot of things that we make generalizations about (especially with new owners, once agin to bolster their chances of successfully keeping their new BP happy and healthy) but in time all owners learn how to read their snakes and fine tune their husbandry accordingly.

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Yesyes, thats my game plan, plus that way he has time to get hungry. This is week 2 however, even with one this small thats no issue right?

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I had a Juvie 300G little guy go off feed for nearly 3 months lost about 35g and is eating again like nothing ever happened your will be fine :)

3months is sketchy! Thats the only thing im scared of, not being bit (i though i got peed on haha) and not the snake escaping, im just worried about a feeding strike, ive never kept an animal that can go a couple days off food comfortably... i guess thats the difference in warm and cold blood.
Very interesting animals, facinating, really

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3months is sketchy! Thats the only thing im scared of, not being bit (i though i got peed on haha) and not the snake escaping, im just worried about a feeding strike, ive never kept an animal that can go a couple days off food comfortably... i guess thats the difference in warm and cold blood.
Very interesting animals, facinating, really

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3 months is nothing, they can go over a year without food. (now that obviously isn't good for them but they can do it)

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3 months is nothing, they can go over a year without food. (now that obviously isn't good for them but they can do it)

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Now you have to mean a full grown bp can go a year right?
I think id cry every day if this little guy wen that long!
I hate to think my new friend wont eat cause of stress...
Now if i find out mine stops eating just to stress me out...we shall have words..oh yes

Ahhhh my girlfriend put the rat in while i was at work!
Hes killing him, but slowly, and the strike, from what i was told, wasnt too intence..
Now im stressing, but i guess if he was ok to eat, he was ok to eat, right?

The rat got away! What do i do! Gosh why did she feed the snake, stressssss

Nevermind...a second stike as i typed that, this was was intense...wow, mous was gone in a few seconds )the first time maybe she was just annoyed by it..

Ok well, crises averted for now. The snake ate, and when to the hideaway warm spot, he seemed pretty content.
He was going tail first, but after a min, he decided heads first was better. This was my first iin person feeding, and id be lying if i said i wasnt kinda excited, wish my girl had waited though, i guess she was just as excited as i was about seeing this whole sitch go down... lol bruttall

Well he seems to be doing fine. No regurge or anything, just sleeping and sneakin

His weight is 154g
Btw

how can i bring my ambient temps. up

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how can i bring my ambient temps. up

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Increase the room temp, space heater, heat lamp, heat panel. There's a lot of ways

How would a heat lamp work on a plastic tub??

Like, put the lamp point towords the lid? Would that melt it, and ven increase temps?

Well, i dont have a heat lamp anyways, covered tub in blankets,increased house temp to 80.
I almost feel a tank is easier in this sence, the heat lamp has to help your ambients stay up

They have heat lamps that have stands so you can have it pointing towards the tub. Tanks are a huge pain IMO. Keeping humidity, screen tops, keeping temps everything is a pain. I recommend getting a rack system or a cage from somewhere like animal plastics or reptile basics.

Im going to stick with the setup i have. The temps are 80/93, and humidity is dropping back to normal. If i need to i may get a heatlamp and point it to the tub, if that would actually help. I can upgrade my housing later, but i only have 1 small bp for now..

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but i only have 1 small bp for now..

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Give it a few months, you will have enough to fill up a rack.

Mmm, prolly not. Maybe a second, but ive got so many fish, i dont need a zoo!

Wait, bps prefer belly heat right?
Why dont i just get another mat and set that puppy to 80
That would mean a constant 80-84/90-94 (the tstat im using has a +-2 degree variable, but thats ok.


So when my new tstat gets here. I was going to put thermometer pobe directly on uth, and the tstat probe on top of the substrate?
I read this was ok to do, as lng as i know the temp of inside bottom of tub isnt too hot (and will know temp of the actual uth)
Sound right you guys?