someone on craigslist list is saleing there snakes

someone on craigslist is saleing all there reptiles...the have a green tree python...retic python...ball python....red tail boa....there so pretty...i hope they dont sale to someone wanting a pretty pet to just show in a cage....i feel bad when i see animals on craigslist...u just never know who will get them and if they will take care of them...thtas for cats and dogs also...but these post in particular surprise me cause around here you never see more than one snake in a day on craigslist for sale and if you do its usualy just ball pythons only....

It's indeed saddening to see so many animals sold and bought by unknowledgeable people, as if they were just used objects. It's also sad when someone feels the need to get rid of their pets like that, be it financial or circumstantial. I know sometimes the animals have to go, but a lot of the times, it's preventable.

Rehoming animals is difficult, stressful, and risky. Like you said you never know where they're going or coming from. I really hate seeing kittens and puppies on there. It's very saddening knowing that those cats will probably end up in the streets having more kittens, and the dogs might end up being fought or bred by BYBs/mills.

This is why I believe pets are a commitment, not a privilege/item. I watch craigslist and I see new ads weekly for baby and juvi ball pythons, no doubt bought from a pet store just a few months earlier and now unwanted and unhealthy. However, I also see the people who have had their snakes for years, and are reluctantly trying to find good homes for their beloved pets for whatever reason.

ok maybe im new at this keeping a snake deal but when u post pictures of your ball python eating a rat and theres pooo every were in the cage with it....ewww desgusting alteast i know to clean my snakes cage out...and im not talking one place in both pictures i see like 3 different places of poo

That is just nasty. I always wonder why anyone would take the time to take a picture if the subject or background really looks that hideous. Not good advertisement, that's for sure! :rolleyes:

There's new BPs going up on Craigslist everyday, my favorite is "ball python with whole set up $200". Or "trading ball python looking for Xbox".

my favorite cl post is "ball boa snake" or redtail "python" ... ive actually seen posts like this its so sad

Have you seen anyone "saleing" any "terriors" on Craigslist?

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lol sorry i do know how to spell and what the difference is between selling and sailing lol just didnt think twice about it....if my son read it he would flip out on me....

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lol sorry i do know how to spell and what the difference is between selling and sailing lol just didnt think twice about it....if my son read it he would flip out on me....

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someone on craigslist is saleing all there reptiles...the have a green tree python...retic python...ball python....red tail boa....there so pretty...i hope they dont sale to someone wanting a pretty pet to just show in a cage....

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Why? Wouldn't that be better than someone who wants something to breed and add to the problem of more snakes needing to find homes? There's an awful lot of snake owners on here but considering how long snakes live, it's surprising how few 10+ year old pets there seems to be on here or anywhere. Where did they all go? People jump in and out of this hobby very quickly. Seems like most newbie bp owners bought theirs at a pet store and now want to get back the $300 they wasted on a crappy setup and a normal they paid $80 for. They don't understand or realize nobody is going to pay for their mistake.

i understand what angle you are coming from but i know most people who only buy animals for looks are more than likely scared of them...thus they dont take the proper care of them...i have known of one person in particualr who bough pets like hedge hogs snakes frogs and gerbils just for looks and would never clean the cages because they feared to get bitten....in wich this is the case i hope they dont go to someone that just wants them as a pet to look at

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Have you seen anyone "saleing" any "terriors" on Craigslist?

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No, but I've seen people selling "Chiwawas" and "Datsuns". And I'm thinking, "Why is someone trying to sell an old car in the pet section?"...

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No, but I've seen people selling "Chiwawas" and "Datsuns". And I'm thinking, "Why is someone trying to sell an old car in the pet section?"...

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Why? Wouldn't that be better than someone who wants something to breed and add to the problem of more snakes needing to find homes? There's an awful lot of snake owners on here but considering how long snakes live, it's surprising how few 10+ year old pets there seems to be on here or anywhere. Where did they all go? People jump in and out of this hobby very quickly. Seems like most newbie bp owners bought theirs at a pet store and now want to get back the $300 they wasted on a crappy setup and a normal they paid $80 for. They don't understand or realize nobody is going to pay for their mistake.

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Ugh, I know what you mean. It pisses me off how many of these ads seem at first like they desperately want to get rid of the snake (or ferret, chinchilla, etc) and then state that their "small rehoming fee" is a non-negotiable $100 or more. At least as much as you would pay for the animal in a pet store. So like you said, they don't just want to find a good home for their beloved pet - they want their money back, and that seems to be all they care about.

the ones that kill me the most are the ones who sit there and say if they have not found a new home by tomorrow they will be taken to the shelter....how much can you realy love your pet if your going to take them to the shelter were they will probley be put to sleep just because u dont spend enough time with them....and your not getting the money you want for them....grow some beans between your legs just admit..your a jerk and you dont care about if they go to a good home you just want the money for them....and if you dont get what your asking you rather them be killed....thats my personal take on it atleast

Your personal take is a bit judgmental overall imho.

There's nothing at all wrong with buying a pet that will look pretty, ESPECIALLY when it's something like some of those species that are not as much "handlable". These are not puppies that yearn to be taken for walkies.

Just because people think it's pretty, they'll also be scared of them? That makes no sense. Most people who are scared of snakes don't think they are pretty, they think they are slimy.

And many people who advertise on craigslist for pets also do screen the new owners. If you advertise something, you don't HAVE to take the first offer, just because someone says "Oh, I'll take that puppy." Some rescues even use craigslist to help bring awareness of what they have for adoption.

Sometimes, people have to get rid of pets. It happens. Sometimes it's preventable and it's just someone getting a novelty and then dumping them. Sometimes it's a case where the person really is in a tight bind, they've already tried everything else, and it's now either try craigslist or take it to Animal Control. It's sad, but it's happening across the country. Would you rather they keep the snakes if they can't feed them, let them starve a while?

I still don't understand taking pics in dirty cages though. Always has mystified me.

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someone on craigslist is saleing all there reptiles...the have a green tree python...retic python...ball python....red tail boa....there so pretty...i hope they dont sale to someone wanting a pretty pet to just show in a cage....i feel bad when i see animals on craigslist...u just never know who will get them and if they will take care of them...thtas for cats and dogs also...but these post in particular surprise me cause around here you never see more than one snake in a day on craigslist for sale and if you do its usualy just ball pythons only....

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i understand what angle you are coming from but i know most people who only buy animals for looks are more than likely scared of them...thus they dont take the proper care of them...

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I would think that someone who wanted an animal for display would take very good care of them in order to keep them looking beautiful. Isn't that the point of getting an animal for looks?

Neglected animals go down in health fast and don't make good displays...

And why would someone buy an animal they're frightened of? Sounds counter productive and makes no sense to me.:confused:

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And why would someone buy an animal they're frightened of? Sounds counter productive and makes no sense to me.:confused:

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I don't know why they do it, but it happens all the time. I have a Bro who works animal control down in Dade County. You'd be suprised what they get called out to pick up from owners. One of my favorite stories was about the girl who thought it would be cool to keep a couple of Eastern Diamondbacks in her living room...then realized that she would eventually need to clean their cage, and decided she wasn't such an snake lover after all.

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I don't know why they do it, but it happens all the time. I have a Bro who works animal control down in Dade County. You'd be suprised what they get called out to pick up from owners. One of my favorite stories was about the girl who thought it would be cool to keep a couple of Eastern Diamondbacks in her living room...then realized that she would eventually need to clean their cage, and decided she wasn't such an snake lover after all.

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Wow. That is insane. Sometimes I wonder what goes through the heads of these types of people.

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i understand the rescue groups trying to find homes for the animals and the animal shelters that use craigslist to try and help the animals out what i was talking about was there a few different people who will post "cute doggy needs a good home asking a rehoming fee of 100 or whatever if not found a home by tomorrow will be takin to the shelter.....only to a good home".....if your going to take it to a shelter because you dont want it any more why ask for a rehoming fee....why not just say free dog to good home like most people do.....and no i know a person who would only buy pets cause he thought they were cool to have but would not touch them and clean there cages...all he would do was feed them....yes he is dumb...and hes has been told that many times by myself....but no one can control him or what he does and im pretty sure there are more out there like that...

I think reptiles, especially snakes, are seen more as the "disposable pets" which is ironic because they have such a long lifespan compare to other animals like cats and dogs, you would think there would be more of a commitment when buying one. I see people trading snakes like they're baseball cards. People always wanting the newest reptile, always looking to trade or sell of their pets because they've lost interest/novelty has worn off and now they want to fund their new project, be it a monitor or different type of snake or what not. It's sad because as we all know, reptiles adjust very poorly to being re-homed and most people selling their reptiles on places like craigslist or Kijiji where I live, do so after a year or two of keeping them and getting bored of them so if this animal actually gets lucky enough to make it 20 Years....think how Many homes that is!

Reptiles react very poorly to being rehomed? Where is that info?

Snakes generally don't care who owns them, as long as the husbandry is close to correct. I've never ever seen a snake pining after his first owner. Same with 99% of other reptiles.

People usually "swap" and trade reptiles because the animals don't care who owns and feeds them. If you're breeding and at a certain point you no longer need a certain snake, and someone else does need it, why not switch out and both of you have new animals that you can use in your breeding programs? The snakes don't care who's name is on their cage. As long as they get their rat, the person holding the tongs doesn't matter.

I'd ten times rather see a person who needs/wants to get rid of a pet GET RID OF IT. If you're "tired" of your dog/cat/horse/guppy/snake, then you're way less likely to continue to take proper care of it. Giving it away, selling it, taking to the humane society... all prospects for the animal to find a new home with someone who does want it. The same applies if you have something in life happen where you need to get rid of the animal. It's better for it to go to a chance for a good home, than to stay just because some random person might judge you for not being a "forever home".

Most people won't advertise a pet for free on craigslist because certain people continually tell everyone that ANY person looking for free pets is only going to feed them to their snake/use them in dog fighting/kill them in arcane rituals/send them planet X/ or whatever alarming situation MIGHT happen. So they put a "rehoming fee" in to prevent a new owner who will only want it because it's free, not because they actually want the animal.

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Reptiles react very poorly to being rehomed? Where is that info?

Snakes generally don't care who owns them, as long as the husbandry is close to correct. I've never ever seen a snake pining after his first owner. Same with 99% of other reptiles.

People usually "swap" and trade reptiles because the animals don't care who owns and feeds them. If you're breeding and at a certain point you no longer need a certain snake, and someone else does need it, why not switch out and both of you have new animals that you can use in your breeding programs? The snakes don't care who's name is on their cage. As long as they get their rat, the person holding the tongs doesn't matter.

I'd ten times rather see a person who needs/wants to get rid of a pet GET RID OF IT. If you're "tired" of your dog/cat/horse/guppy/snake, then you're way less likely to continue to take proper care of it. Giving it away, selling it, taking to the humane society... all prospects for the animal to find a new home with someone who does want it. The same applies if you have something in life happen where you need to get rid of the animal. It's better for it to go to a chance for a good home, than to stay just because some random person might judge you for not being a "forever home".

Most people won't advertise a pet for free on craigslist because certain people continually tell everyone that ANY person looking for free pets is only going to feed them to their snake/use them in dog fighting/kill them in arcane rituals/send them planet X/ or whatever alarming situation MIGHT happen. So they put a "rehoming fee" in to prevent a new owner who will only want it because it's free, not because they actually want the animal.

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I'm assuming this reply is aimed at my comment. I never said anything about a snake being stressed because it misses or loves it's owner. I said being re-homed is stressful on any reptile - not because they miss their owner but because anything that's changes or disrupts their routine can cause stress. Moving cages, plane rides, car rides, different husbandry....all of these can create a certain amount of stress for a reptile. Usually when I've taken in a female that's of breeding age, she often won't breed if she was re-homed too close to breeding season and I've found that generally I need to wait until the following season to breed. Why do we wait a week or two to feed a new snake and why do we wait even longer to handle them? Because they need time to adjust to their new surroundings. Whether this is extremely stressful or just a minor adjustment for the animal, usually tends to be dependent on the specific animal and/or other factors but there's no
Way anyone can say that a snake who gets re-homed every couple of years for the duration of it's life isnt Going to deal with a certain amount of stress.

And my reason for not particularly understanding the whole trading of snakes isn't about the snakes attachment to me (or lack there of), it's about my attachment to the snake. My snakes are not just breeders, they're my pets and my post was in regards to the OP who was talking about people constantly selling and attempting to trade reptiles on Craiglist - some may be good owners, I can't judge those who I don't know but I've seen it myself with rescues that I've taken in, many are not and often times the new homes these snakes go to are not either. So yes if the husbandry is spot on then a snake doesn't care who feeds it and cleans it's cage, etc. But I'm not referring to owners who's husbandry is spot on. I'm referring to owners who decided that their snake has become an annoying responsibility and they'd prefer to trade it for an x box on craigslist. Or the owner who buys the new boa or retic or croc or monitor bc it's cool and soon tires of all the work and decides to unload it. I'm referring to a level of committment that is lacking. And again, I was not referring to my snakes attachment to me but rather my attachment to them.

But if a person is tired of the snake, why is it bad for them to offer to trade it for a xbox or whatever?

You're also assuming that all new homes are going to be bad homes. A person can buy from a expo or breeder, get a brand new snake and neglect it just as well. I'm just saying, don't ASSUME that everyone is automatically going to be a bad owner, or that someone that is trading or selling or giving away a pet is a bad owner.

That's one of the major reasons that so many shelters are full of pets. The shelters are now going SO overboard with only sending pets to a 'perfect forever home' that they are killing dogs and cats rather than adopt them out to someone who might not fit their ideal criteria. Some shelters standards are so high that nearly no one can possibly meet them, but they still cry that there's all these pets needing homes.

A lot of folks go get a snake because they see it on craigslist and think "Cool a snake!" and then they become fine pet owners and care for the animal. Some might do poorly, some do spectacularly. But everyone is so focused on the falsehood that almost all pets are going off to horrible conditions that they start beating up on every pet for sale/adopt/free, just because someone isn't keeping it.

I never assume anyone is a good or bad owner and would never make that assumption based on anything but first hand knowledge. A person selling their snake or trading it doesn't make them a bad owner; how they care for the animal determines that. Someone buying a reptile from an expo or a pet store or craigslist or wherever - doesn't make a difference; there the good and the bad but I can't agree that re-homing a snake doesn't cause some level of stress for that snake and if done repeatedly, doesn't create a fair amount of stress and possible health issues related to the stress.
I'm not basing this on any studies or anything other than personal experience. I've seen first hand how it affects snakes and I've also seen firsthand how many owners see snakes and other reptiles as disposable.

I volunteer at a reptile rescue centre and I've had so many people surrender their animals because they're bored of them or they say things like "I was only ever planning to keep the snake for a couple yrs because I always knew I'd be going away to school..." why get it in the first place if you only want a 2 yr commitment?

A few posts back someone made a comment that's really true and is definately something I wonder about. With all the hundreds...thousands of forum posts of new owners proudly displaying their new baby snake or lizard...or YouTube "educational" videos about how to care for a caiman or a Nile monitor and the owner proudly shows their baby croc....where did all these animals go? There's far too many babies and no where near enough adults...

I do agree with you that if an animal isn't being cared for then by all means, give the poor thing a chance and try and find a new owner but my point is I wish some people would think twice when it comes to buying reptiles. Not everyone is meant to own a snake for example - it's a relationship that's based on you giving and loving and respecting and spending and cleaning and them ... Well tolerating at best :-)
Too many people get bored and you buy a snake you realize it's not for you so you find it a good home. Lesson learned. But when you keep buying and get rid or them and trading then the hobby itself becomes about trading and the novelty of it all instead of about the actual animal - this living, breathing, beautiful creature....that's worth much more than an xbox.

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this living, breathing, beautiful creature....that's worth much more than an xbox.

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I wholeheartedly agree there.

If your probobly going to trade it for an xbox or somthing, maybey your not mature enough for the responsibility of a snake?
Im against the while pokemon cards setup some people get with snakes. I guess i understand breeders, and all that, but honestly, if you take a living creature in, its life is your responsibility. If your not up for that, why dont you just find an easier hobby (like video games)
Heck if your tryn to trade stuff, trade baseball cards, not living beings

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If your probobly going to trade it for an xbox or somthing, maybey your not mature enough for the responsibility of a snake?

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Agree. I was selling a beautiful pastel male once. And one guy wanted to start breeding so he asked to trade for material items. Some of the stuff was super random.

- xbox games
- switch blade
- poker game set
- packing peanuts
- brass knuckles
- guitar pick
- dog food

Yup. Can't say I was disappointed to turn him down....


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I think if we ever EVER (touch wood it'll NEVER happen) needed to get rid of Pretzel and/or Pringle for whatever serious reason, Grant and I would much rather they went to someone we knew and trusted to look after them. We're lucky enough to have close friends with snakes who share a passion for reptiles, and the store we always go to I'm sure would be happy to either take and re-home them to more than suitable owners, or (knowing how much we love our littluns) take them home themselves and look after them well :)

Personally I don't think I could ever sell either of them for material objects...They're worth so much more to us than that :) :love:

For as long as there has been humans, we have been trading goods/animals. It's not going to change any time soon. If someone can no longer care for a animal anymore I see no problem with them using Craigslist as a tool to find a suitable home. The problem is nine times out of ten when you see someone looking to trade a ball python for let's say Xbox or computer, it some spoiled kid who "needed" a ball python while at the store. Now 6 months down the road the new has worn off and the kid is no longer interested. I believe it's the parents job to put their foot down and teach the kid about responsibility and commitment.

People's circumstances change. There are irresponsible people in the world; many are children, many are not. One question you may want to ask is if the kid who posted their snake for an Xbox is irresponsible or if the parent who allowed them to get the snake is irresponsible? Maybe they should have bought their kid an Xbox.

I'm glad there are places like craigslist for people that fall into any of those categories to go and find new owners for their pets. Can you imagine those animals' alternatives? I'm glad that people have a quick and easy means of connecting to someone who will enthusiastically pick up the slack on their poor circumstance or irresponsibility. I'm willing to bet 90% of craigslist animals get re-homed to better circumstances.

People always post 'oh my god this heartless demon look at these awful conditions this animal is living in,' but for every one of those posts you see on craigslist there are 5 other animals in the same or worse conditions with owners who don't care enough/ won't make the effort to get rid of them. By comparison, the people who get rid of their old pets on craigslist are actually pretty responsible.

I got rid of my 6 year old Bearded Dragon named Snoop on craigslist. It was very traumatic for me and believe me it was NOT my fault that I had to get rid of him. It's scary to think of what his fate may have been if I couldn't find someone on craigslist. I turned 5 people down before the 6th proved a worthy owner, by the way.

I will say craigslist, ive changed my mind. Im buying a cl snake, the guy seems to have some legit money issues,and is parting out all sorts of snake stuff, and if he couldnt do that hed lose the place, and i guess just be forced to give them out to whoever shows up, very scary though, at least people can be screened to weed out the dummys

This is a real craigslist add
"I have a boa python and i am looking for a nice home for her she is very friendly I had her for a little over two years the only reason why i want to sell her is because my girlfriend is scared of her and we are having a baby now so i have too I am looking for at least $200.00 or best offer I am willing to take less give me a call and we can make a deal please contact me"
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This is a real craigslist add
"I have a boa python and i am looking for a nice home for her she is very friendly I had her for a little over two years the only reason why i want to sell her is because my girlfriend is scared of her and we are having a baby now so i have too I am looking for at least $200.00 or best offer I am willing to take less give me a call and we can make a deal please contact me"
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Let's all collaborate to get that Boa Python. We'll be famous for the discovery of the first Boa Python in existence. The scientific community will be in a buzz.;)

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Let's all collaborate to get that Boa Python. We'll be famous for the discovery of the first Boa Python in existence. The scientific community will be in a buzz.;)

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Lmao.....that's great. For 200 bucks that's a steal!

Im just sayin, if some little kid wants a snake, their parents should probobly consider if its going to be a 4 month fad, and if so, maybe the kid needs less cable tv, and more being outside....there are snakes outside lol