Optimum Cage Dimensions

I am growing a little frustrated with all of the conflicting information in the world wide web.

What I want to know is, in YOUR OPINION, what is the OPTIMUM cage size for an average sized adult ball python. I'm not too concerned about height, mostly length and width.

Please respond with dimensions only, and not some weird rule of thumb about the length of the snake and how it relates to the sum of the length and width of the enclosure. We are talking an average sized adult , lets say 4.5-5 feet just to keep things consistent with everyone's response.

Everyone's opinion would be much appreciated :)

Remember, I am looking for the optimum size, not one that is simply adequate.

Thank you very much for your time :popcorn:

I use 4 foot x 2 foot x 1 foot cages (L x W x H)

The minimum is 1 square foot of floor space per foot of BP. More is ok but you don't want to go much bigger than a 4x2

You're asking for a specific answer to a subjective question. Not the best way to start a conversation, but let the fun begin...

Now, go out and find an Iris MCB-L tub and measure the length and width. That would optimally be optimum for an optimum adult male BP. Now, since you're already at the snake tub store, get an Iris CB-70 tub and measure the length and width of it. That would optimally be optimum for an optimum adult female.

Of course, we all know that some males will optimally grow larger than some females, and that optimally some females may not get large enough to occupy a CB-70 tub, so in the end, your optimal mileage may vary.

EDIT: I think I may have broken some of your rules for responding to this thread. Just call me a First Amendment Outlaw...

In the wild they spend a lot of their time in the burrow of their last meal. Those aren't very big.

I'd vote 2'x4'x any height for an adult. That seems to be the consensus around here.

I appreciate everyone's contribution thus far to my subjective question :)

I value many of your opinions highly on this site which is why I'm asking!

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Originally Posted by Slim

You're asking for a specific answer to a subjective question. Not the best way to start a conversation, but let the fun begin...

Now, go out and find an Iris MCB-L tub and measure the length and width. That would optimally be optimum for an optimum adult male BP. Now, since you're already at the snake tub store, get an Iris CB-70 tub and measure the length and width of it. That would optimally be optimum for an optimum adult female.

Of course, we all know that some males will optimally grow larger than some females, and that optimally some females may not get large enough to occupy a CB-70 tub, so in the end, your optimal mileage may vary.

EDIT: I think I may have broken some of your rules for responding to this thread. Just call me a First Amendment Outlaw...

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:colbert:

hahaha only kidding, I appreciate you taking the time to reply regardless

I agree, 4 x 2 x 1. I wouldn't put a big ball python in anything smaller.

Much appreciated everyone

Completely agree with Slim!
But, for the purpose of this thread one of the most popular sized tubs for adult BP's is roughly 41qts. Whether it be the CB-70, the V-70 or a similar 41qt tub. The size of them is roughly 34-36"x16-18"x5-6".

41qts so like 3' x 1.5'
Thats what i keep all mine in. And 4.5-5ft is like an avg for females. Males tend not to get that big. Just sayin...

Thanks Mike

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Originally Posted by ballbuster

:colbert:

hahaha only kidding, I appreciate you taking the time to reply regardless

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I actually was answering your question...just in my own way. I do keep adult males in Iris MCB-L tubs, and if I were to keep females, I would keep them in CB-70s. ;)

The 4x2 suggestion seems too big unless its one of the monster 10kg girls. Not saying you couldn't make this work but its not necessary either. I agree with the others and I think most of the big breeders (pros) agree that CB70 (41qt) tubs are optimal for both the snake and the keeper. I have kept 6 and 7 foot pythons (not balls), very happily in Neodesha plastics cages that are about 34 x 18 x18. Ball Pythons in particular seem to prefer smaller sizes that other species.

3Lx2W IMO

41qt sterilite tubs for all adult females over 1000 grams

4x2 :confused: