thoughts or experiences with hog island boas

hi, i would appreciate any thoughts or experiences with hog island boas

I just got my own a week ago and she is wonderful, as are all my boas and boas in general IMO. Wonderful boas that usually don't get as large as Colombians, and they have gorgeous peachy coloring. Some have lots of peppering and some little, so there is a variety out there for what you're looking for.

Here's my girl, Attika:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...rch1320122.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...rch1320125.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...rch1320126.jpg

i LOVE yours with the cleaner lighter look. where'd ya get and what can i expect to pay...

^ Got her from Chad Duggin (he's on Kingsnake Classifieds) for $150 shipped.

Here's the Hog Classifieds: http://market.kingsnake.com/index.php?cat=155

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

I just got my own a week ago and she is wonderful, as are all my boas and boas in general IMO. Wonderful boas that usually don't get as large as Colombians, and they have gorgeous peachy coloring. Some have lots of peppering and some little, so there is a variety out there for what you're looking for.

Here's my girl, Attika:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...rch1320122.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...rch1320125.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...rch1320126.jpg

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That's a great looking hog island, I can't make up my mind on a hog island, or a blood python.

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

^ Got her from Chad Duggin (he's on Kingsnake Classifieds) for $150 shipped.

Here's the Hog Classifieds: http://market.kingsnake.com/index.php?cat=155

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says plus shipping. think i can get it delivered?

Good snake to keep.
Good price.
Good appetite.

I have only had encounters with one. Very docile and loves the ball python leftovers each week. =)

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Originally Posted by Rob

That's a great looking hog island, I can't make up my mind on a hog island, or a blood python.

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I have both, also got my black blood girl last week from Tim Mead and both are wonderful (I'm planning to pick up a T+ girl shortly in the future also). If you have the space I'd look into getting one of each, great species.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...h1320123-1.jpg

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Originally Posted by chasingtime

says plus shipping. think i can get it delivered?

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I recommend shooting him an email and discussing everything with him. He was very helpful with answering questions I had for him.

I have a 2010 male Hypo Hog Island produced by PM Herps. He is an amazing snake and much more active than the ball pythons. I picked him because of his clean pattern and bright colors...

I need to get some new pics of him. Here is an old shot...

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/88527/7...aHS0TSnfDZ.jpg

Edit: here's a link to some more pics of him...

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...d-Outdoor-Pics

We have had our Hog for about 2 years. She is a fantastic animal. Very docile, calm, and like someone else said, eats the BP leftovers. She is right at 5ft now and will be very manageable even if she does grow to be 6ft which is pretty large for a female.

You can see pictures of ours if you click on the frog to our facebook page. She has an album :)

Only other snake I have other than BP's. Mine is a male about 7 Ft now(finally got a nice clean shed I could stretch out). Like everyone else has said their appetite is amazing, Live , F/T. Hell i think he would eat it frozen if i gave it too him. My only problem is getting him back in his tub after I have him out. I got mine from Paul Mitchell PMherps.com about 2 years ago.

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Originally Posted by PolishPython

Only other snake I have other than BP's. Mine is a male about 7 Ft now(finally got a nice clean shed I could stretch out). Like everyone else has said their appetite is amazing, Live , F/T. Hell i think he would eat it frozen if i gave it too him. My only problem is getting him back in his tub after I have him out. I got mine from Paul Mitchell PMherps.com about 2 years ago.

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7 feet? bummer. i thought they stayed smaller...

everything ive read says 4 to 6 feet and males stay smaller....

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Originally Posted by chasingtime

everything ive read says 4 to 6 feet and males stay smaller....

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That's the norm, but there are always exceptions to the norm.

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/94790/8...XxzuJ7UQD1.jpg
http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/94790/8...OKOQaUzoQq.jpg

I've had mine since the end of October. She's an awesome eater and has a great personality. Like someone else said, the most trouble I ever have with her is getting her to detach from me to get her back into her tub. I love how when I check on her in the evening/at night she's all super light and during the day her colors are much more saturated.

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Originally Posted by chasingtime

everything ive read says 4 to 6 feet and males stay smaller....

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If it makes you feel any better I rounded up. I measured his shed about 3 moths ago and it was 6 ft 10 if that makes you feel better. Although you wouldn't think he was that big looking at him. I'm going to attempt cleaning tubs outside today being that it's going to hit 80 again I'll try to snap a few pictures

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Originally Posted by PolishPython

If it makes you feel any better I rounded up. I measured his shed about 3 moths ago and it was 6 ft 10 if that makes you feel better. Although you wouldn't think he was that big looking at him. I'm going to attempt cleaning tubs outside today being that it's going to hit 80 again I'll try to snap a few pictures

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i was hoping that if the average size was 4-6 and males stay smaller i could be comfy knowing id likely not go over 5 feet.. thanks for the feedback though...

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Originally Posted by chasingtime

i was hoping that if the average size was 4-6 and males stay smaller i could be comfy knowing id likely not go over 5 feet.. thanks for the feedback though...

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They are generally much smaller and if you feed conservatively males will probably stay under 5ft. By conservatively I mean feed appropriately sized meals once a week until they are about 2-3 years old and them feed them once every 2 weeks.

Hogs are a great little dwarf boa. My female isn't a dumpster like my male and she will only eat live, but they are positively tiny compared to my hypo jungle boas. I wouldn't let one case were someone owns a very large male to scare you away from them. :)

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Originally Posted by chasingtime

i was hoping that if the average size was 4-6 and males stay smaller i could be comfy knowing id likely not go over 5 feet.. thanks for the feedback though...

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Theres a possibility that polishpythons isnt a 100% hog island boa and has some colombian or somethin else mixed in somewhere along the bloodline.

x2 but I don't know the breeder or what you bought him as. That just seems like an XXL male to me, but as I said, I don't know details.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Theres a possibility that polishpythons isnt a 100% hog island boa and has some colombian or somethin else mixed in somewhere along the bloodline.

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No my friend he is 100% hog. If you are familiar with Paul Mitchell he one of the few that I've seen breeding 100% atleast in my area. So I take a minor offense your comment. I'm no child I know what I have and I know what I buy.

Hey PolishPython I'm sure Mike didn't mean to offend you and I agree that Paul Mitchell has pure Hogs but he does cross breed his Hogs with Colombians (hypo/hogs)

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Originally Posted by PolishPython

No my friend he is 100% hog. If you are familiar with Paul Mitchell he one of the few that I've seen breeding 100% atleast in my area. So I take a minor offense your comment. I'm no child I know what I have and I know what I buy.

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I didnt know where you got yours from but i know some breeders cross in different lines of bci or bcc. I have heard it being done before. And you just said you know hes one of the few in your area that breeds 100% pure making it obvious that crossing lines is a fairly common practice. You didnt say where you got yours from. So i just made the point yours may not be pure. I never implied you were stupid or childish, but you can take offense to whatever you please...

thank you for all the feedback friends. i will do my homework and feed properly. im really eager to get one now. what are all your thoughts on more or less flecking?

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Originally Posted by chasingtime

thank you for all the feedback friends. i will do my homework and feed properly. im really eager to get one now. what are all your thoughts on more or less flecking?

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I like the clean ones with very little flecking, like Daybreakers.

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Originally Posted by chasingtime

thank you for all the feedback friends. i will do my homework and feed properly. im really eager to get one now. what are all your thoughts on more or less flecking?

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My little HI is a hypo, so he has very few freckles, except on top of his head. But, I think it's the peppered freckles that make the HI's stand out...

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Originally Posted by chasingtime

thank you for all the feedback friends. i will do my homework and feed properly. im really eager to get one now. what are all your thoughts on more or less flecking?

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It's a matter of personal preference. I like the cleaner patterns with less speckling, which is why I went with my hypo/hog. That and my guy has MUCH brighter orange colors than most pure hogs I see. Just look at a bunch of pictures and decide what you find more attractive, then look for a specific animal that fits what you like...

Here are some links to PMHerps. The first is pure hog, the second are his hypo/hog crosses...

http://pmherps.com/sub/hog.html

http://pmherps.com/sub/hypohog.html

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Originally Posted by Inknsteel

It's a matter of personal preference. I like the cleaner patterns with less speckling, which is why I went with my hypo/hog. That and my guy has MUCH brighter orange colors than most pure hogs I see. Just look at a bunch of pictures and decide what you find more attractive, then look for a specific animal that fits what you like...

Here are some links to PMHerps. The first is pure hog, the second are his hypo/hog crosses...

http://pmherps.com/sub/hog.html

http://pmherps.com/sub/hypohog.html

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im loving the hypos. are they pure hog or hog/hypo columbian crossed?

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Originally Posted by chasingtime

im loving the hypos. are they pure hog or hog/hypo columbian crossed?

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^ They're a Colombian/Hog cross so they're not pure. I like the pure ones with the really nice peach colors and fewer speckles (like the girl I chose for myself) but as mentioned it's totally up to what you like better. The crosses will usually get larger than pure hogs.

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

^ They're a Colombian/Hog cross so they're not pure. I like the pure ones with the really nice peach colors and fewer speckles (like the girl I chose for myself) but as mentioned it's totally up to what you like better. The crosses will usually get larger than pure hogs.

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im with you. i like the pures and i hear they color up real nice with age...

I have two, three and a half year old Pure Hogs from Paul Mitchell Jr. The female is 4.5 foot and the male is 3.5 foot. They are full grown. Never seen a 7 foot pure male before, maybe a hypo.

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Originally Posted by TheWinWizard

I have two, three and a half year old Pure Hogs from Paul Mitchell Jr. The female is 4.5 foot and the male is 3.5 foot. They are full grown. Never seen a 7 foot pure male before, maybe a hypo.

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He is about 6'9 -6'10 and yes he is Full Hog . No hypo in him. I can assure you that and so would Paul.
and im not getting mad it is just frustrating when I write who was the breeder and what I have and still you have people that will write things like. Maybe its a hypo or Ive never seen this and I never seen that. You havnt seen it thats fine come to Philadelphia ill give you my address and ill show you. Im not on here trying to start an argument.

No arguments here. You should know what you have. Shed skins are longer then the snake actually is, so measure the snake rather then the skin. The sheds stretch.

I don't have any experience with the species to speak from, but I have been looking into them for a year now, and I prefer the ones with bright colors and a decent amount of speckling. More speckles are closer to the wild-type, which when keeping locales would be important to me.

Just thought I'd throw my 2c in here. I have always heard that Hogs "generally" stay smaller but all my adult PURE Hog Island females are over 7 foot easily.

That said, Hogs are still great snakes.

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Originally Posted by JimiSnakes

Just thought I'd throw my 2c in here. I have always heard that Hogs "generally" stay smaller but all my adult PURE Hog Island females are over 7 foot easily.

That said, Hogs are still great snakes.

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I think the key word there is females :)

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Originally Posted by Rob

I think the key word there is females :)

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Not sure I understand. I have a male Hog Island that is the same size as my breeder Argentine BCO male. In fact I have a gravid Hog Island female that is probably over 7ft right here-

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimisna...er2011/Hog.jpg

Just trying to push the differences between the keywords "generally" and "always" is all.

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Originally Posted by JimiSnakes

Just trying to push the differences between the keywords "generally" and "always" is all

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there's always going to be exceptions to the general rule.