wanna get into bees

I see all these pictures ive been breeding normals for a couple years now but i want to get into bees and cool things related.. any suggestions on what i should get at the expo ill be going to soon. I have about 1500 and sold all my normals. i have all houseing thanks guys!

you should think about getting a super pastel female, and a spinner male. you'll make no normals that way.
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Well, to get into bees, you'd need a pastel and a spider. Or you can just outright buy a bee for about $400...

Really, figure out what morphs you want to work with and decide how you want to do it. Do you want to start with babies and raise them up to breeding size, or are you looking to pick up breeder size snakes to put together next season? Are you looking to buy single gene morphs and breed them over several seasons to produce the multi-gene combos yourself? Or are you looking to pick up some dual or multi-gene snakes to make higher end combos?

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Originally Posted by Inknsteel

Well, to get into bees, you'd need a pastel and a spider. Or you can just outright buy a bee for about $400...

Really, figure out what morphs you want to work with and decide how you want to do it. Do you want to start with babies and raise them up to breeding size, or are you looking to pick up breeder size snakes to put together next season? Are you looking to buy single gene morphs and breed them over several seasons to produce the multi-gene combos yourself? Or are you looking to pick up some dual or multi-gene snakes to make higher end combos?

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I want to buy a male bumble bee what can i do from there as for females? im just thinking of pairing right now then all that other stuff later

ooooo! You've got a good budget to get into some cool stuff =]. You can actually go out and buy several bees with that budget lol. Or you can get a killerbee and have some left over for something else =p. Could you be more specific of what exactly you want, and what you want to produce? :gj:

Yea if I had 1500 and wanted to get into bee's, I would just buy a pair

Get a super pastel female and try for the killer bee. Probably cheaper to get a female bee and a male super pastel though.

My advice is to go to www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard and have some fun. Start with a male spider pastel on the left, then pair it to several hypothetical females to see what morphs you really like, then go from there. Killer bee is one option, sure. But there are SOOOOO many combinations you can make, and I can't say I've ever seen a spider combo morph I didn't like...

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-get-into-bees

You may want to ask a mod to combine your two threads in one forum or the other...

Merged the two threads to avoid confusion. One thread per topic. ;)

I am not sure I like everything bee queen bee killer bee lesser bee fire bee bee bee bee i want to get like a bumble bee male then multiple females like a pastel lesser enchi fire im not reall sure

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Merged the two threads to avoid confusion. One thread per topic. ;)

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I am not sure I like everything bee queen bee killer bee lesser bee fire bee bee bee bee i want to get like a bumble bee male then multiple females like a pastel lesser enchi fire im not reall sure

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you should think about getting a super pastel female, and a spinner male. you'll make no normals that way.
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One reason i dont follow these wizards as their not accurate all the time.

Super Paste x Spinner will still give spiders, pastels, spinners and pins. Not sure why it said only those 4 would pop up

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One reason i dont follow these wizards as their not accurate all the time.

Super Paste x Spinner will still give spiders, pastels, spinners and pins. Not sure why it said only those 4 would pop up

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Wait... How can you get plain spiders or pins with this pairing?

I thought since there's a super pastel involved, all of the offspring must have pastel in them.

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Wait... How can you get plain spiders or pins with this pairing?

I thought since there's a super pastel involved, all of the offspring must have pastel in them.

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Technically yes, you shoul get everythign with Pastel, But ive seen enough to know that genetics do odd things even with supers.

Ive seen super pastel x bee clutches still have normals in them. It happes but not always,

not possible unless the female retained from the following yr

I say Killer Bee male and Enchi female.

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I say Killer Bee male and Enchi female.

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Plus you could possibly still have enough left for an additional female. Like maybe a Lesser female. It might be alittle more than $1500 but the extra $1-200 would be worth it!

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you should think about getting a super pastel female, and a spinner male. you'll make no normals that way.
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couldnt agree more with this. The spinner is pinstripe and spider and crossing it with super pastel will give you some pretty good options there. :gj: