Feeder Euthanization and doing it the Humane way..

OK, guys and gals, I did a little reading and reseach. We were recently discussing euthanizing rodents humanely to be fed to our snakes. Here is some info I found, however, I am not sure that the baking soda and vinegar way would be OK... our snakes may not like the smell. But it also give a small run down on creating a euthanization chamber type contraption, and a little info on using the dry ice method. However, the author of this article is right about dry ice and water creating an explosive situation when done incorrectly. So if you choose to use the dry ice, use small amounts in relation to what you are using as a euthanization chamber. I have used the dry ice method, and if you are careful, it is fool proof, quick and effective..and does not leave your prey smelling like vinegar. Check out this article, it may worth keeping in mind.

http://personal.riverusers.com/~busybee/euthanasia.htm

EDIT: The above link was moved here permanently -
http://www.alysion.org/euthanasia/index.html

That was a great article. Thanks for posting!

Geez. That is both descriptive and has pics. Great find!

Way to go Jeanne. The article you found is very informative. Thanks for the URL.

Found another interesting web page with some good information:

http://www.ahc.umn.edu/rar/euthanasia.html

I used to buy lab mice from a local college, and they would put them in a vacuum. I watched them do it once and it didn't take long at all. It seemed very humane. No muss, no fuss, 50 mice ready to go.

A vacuum? Any details available on how that would work?

The way a vaccum works is basically no different than a CO2 Chamber. Both system basically remove oxygen and suffocate the animal. When done correctly, a co2 chamber is actually MUCH more humane than a vaccum. All a vaccum does is remove all oxygen, essentially suffocating the animal. A co2 chamber, however (when administered correctly only), will result in a far more painless death. When initially administered at a 30-40% concentration, CO2 is a general anasthetic. After the animal is sedated, the concentration can be increased in order to suffocate the animal.

Details? No air = No life.

I see where you're going with this, Epil. But is there any real great way to die?

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The way a vaccum works is basically no different than a CO2 Chamber. Both system basically remove oxygen and suffocate the animal. When done correctly, a co2 chamber is actually MUCH more humane than a vaccum. All a vaccum does is remove all oxygen, essentially suffocating the animal. A co2 chamber, however (when administered correctly only), will result in a far more painless death. When initially administered at a 30-40% concentration, CO2 is a general anasthetic. After the animal is sedated, the concentration can be increased in order to suffocate the animal.

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Thanks for the good info in your response.

hi everyone you you want to build one od these chambers go to your local panitball shop and pick up a 20oz co2 tank with a remote line

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I see where you're going with this, Epil. But is there any real great way to die?

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DEATH BY ORGASM!

seriously though - would it be possible to build a chamber that basically puts the co2 from those paintball gun co2 cartridges into a tank? i dont know how much gas is in one of those

anyone know?

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DEATH BY ORGASM!

seriously though - would it be possible to build a chamber that basically puts the co2 from those paintball gun co2 cartridges into a tank? i dont know how much gas is in one of those

anyone know?

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No co2 catridges would be impracticle to use. You would have to use to many to fill the area up with CO2, Co2 is heavier than o2 .. so the basic design of the gas chamber is to push out the o2.. you would have to pop to many of those to push the 02 out. Also, it is just wastefull.
It is better to be able to control the flow of the co2 entering the chamber as to put the animal to sleep slowly, it puts the animal in a anesthetic state. .. If you just flood the chamber with Co2 the animal has a much more stress full death. (this is why baking soda and dry ice are frowned upon due to it is harder to control the flow of co2... ).

Buy a 12 or 20 oz co2 tank from walmart or go to your welding supply store and rent a co2 tank.. alot cheaper, alot more control = a much more humane death for your feeder animal.

Chris

This would be enough, and it straps easier to your back for paintballing :)