Choosing a male. Advice?

I sold my bumblebee to a friend and am looking for a male to breed to several females. I want a nice male and cheaper females to get nice offspring. Any ideas for the male? I am looking at pastel, cinnamon, spider and maybe mojave females. What male would you guys suggest? Spinner? Bumblebee? Thanks for your help!

How many snake do you wanna get and how much do you have to spend on all of them? Also im assuming you have a rack or enclosures for them or will you need to buy that too?

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Originally Posted by Jcash34

I sold my bumblebee to a friend and am looking for a male to breed to several females. I want a nice male and cheaper females to get nice offspring. Any ideas for the male? I am looking at pastel, cinnamon, spider and maybe mojave females. What male would you guys suggest? Spinner? Bumblebee? Thanks for your help!

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I suggest a pastel lesser.

With the pastel lesser you have the potential to make Super Pastels, pewters, bumble bees, pastaves,
Pastel Lessers, cinnamon Lessers, lesser bees, blue eyed leucistics, pastels, Lessers, and normals with your chosen females.(and other base morphs that your females are)

However, I would recommend just buying females first and get the male at a later date. Unless you plan on buying breeder size girls.
Females take around 2 years to get up to breeding size and/or sexual maturity. Males can reach sexual maturity within their first year.

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I agree a nice Lesser Pastel would be a great male to add. I would also look at maybe adding a female Pinstripe.

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Originally Posted by satomi325

I suggest a pastel lesser.

With the pastel lesser you have the potential to make Super Pastels, pewters, bumble bees, pastaves,
Pastel Lessers, cinnamon Lessers, lesser bees, blue eyed leucistics, pastels, Lessers, and normals with your chosen females.(and other base morphs that your females are)

However, I would recommend just buying females first and get the male at a later date. Unless you plan on buying breeder size girls.
Females take around 2 years to get up to breeding size and/or sexual maturity. Males can reach sexual maturity within their first year.

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I am planning on 1 male and 3-4 females. yes i have a rack to answer the other question. I've had snakes off and on but this is my first go round with breeding.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

How many snake do you wanna get and how much do you have to spend on all of them? Also im assuming you have a rack or enclosures for them or will you need to buy that too?

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the male i am willing to spend 300-400 and the females under 200 preferably.

id get a pastel lesser like people said, that may be a bit more than $400 but i would wait on getting him bc it usually only takes a year for them to mature. For females id get a cinnamon, pinstripe, pastel, and spider. All can be found for $200 and under. Go to an expo and see what you like though, you dont have to get those ones...

A mojave female would be a good choice too actually so you can make BELs

appreciate your advice. people around northwest ohio seem to be running high on prices. been to a show the last two weekends and theyre asking 250 for female cinnis, 200 for spiders, 175ish for pastels. all seem kinda high to me. not having much luck.

Yea those prices seem a bit high to me too. Unless they were the best examples of the morphs youve ever seen lol... Im guessing that wasnt the case if you werent impressed...

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Originally Posted by Jcash34

appreciate your advice. people around northwest ohio seem to be running high on prices. been to a show the last two weekends and theyre asking 250 for female cinnis, 200 for spiders, 175ish for pastels. all seem kinda high to me. not having much luck.

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It is all about supply and demand. It is still early in the season so prices may be a little higher right about now especially for 2011 females. You can wait a few more months and maybe get a better deal or spend a little more now and start raising them females up.

lol not so much. the female spiders were 195 and they were not nice ones at all. kinda dull color. I'm having real difficulty picking up females. I can get good deals on males but gonna take ur advice and get females first. Not having any luck..

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Originally Posted by Jcash34

appreciate your advice. people around northwest ohio seem to be running high on prices. been to a show the last two weekends and theyre asking 250 for female cinnis, 200 for spiders, 175ish for pastels. all seem kinda high to me. not having much luck.

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I think 250 for cinnies is kinda high but for a good looking female spider and pastel you can expect to pay around 200. I would spend a little extra for quality. Invest in quality and you will produce quality. Im in the same boat. I have a on older male pastel and a 2010 female pastel and I will be getting a mojave and a spider to add to my ladies. Good luck on your hunt for your ladies.

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Originally Posted by Andybill

I think 250 for cinnies is kinda high but for a good looking female spider and pastel you can expect to pay around 200. I would spend a little extra for quality. Invest in quality and you will produce quality. Im in the same boat. I have a on older male pastel and a 2010 female pastel and I will be getting a mojave and a spider to add to my ladies. Good luck on your hunt for your ladies.

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just bought a very bright pastel female and a pastel male for 150. I'm going to sell the male so at most im paying 100 for the female. I'm on my way!!

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Originally Posted by Jcash34

just bought a very bright pastel female and a pastel male for 150. I'm going to sell the male so at most im paying 100 for the female. I'm on my way!!

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Males go for $80-125 usually depending on how nice he is. So its like youre getting a nice female for $50-$70. Thats a really good deal!
Be sure to post some pics!

Thanks mike. I thought so too. I'll get pics up in the next couple days. Any advice you have for me I'll listen! gotta learn from someone lol

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Originally Posted by Jcash34

just bought a very bright pastel female and a pastel male for 150. I'm going to sell the male so at most im paying 100 for the female. I'm on my way!!

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Awesome! Thats a pretty good deal. I havent seen any pastels that are less than 150 most females i have seen go for about 200. I got the pair of mine for 300 with shipping so I thought I gotta pretty decent deal... :gj:

Just got a picture of my first female pastel up!! such a pretty girl!