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Question about genetics

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  • 03-09-2012, 09:45 PM
    giejack
    Question about genetics
    I have a large WC volta normal bp and I'm going to breed her to a lesser male. Will any of the offsprings get the volta genetics (giant size).
  • 03-09-2012, 09:52 PM
    Slim
    Re: Question about genetics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by giejack View Post
    volta genetics (giant size).

    Is that a real thing?
  • 03-09-2012, 10:00 PM
    giejack
    Volta get up to over 8000 grams I have been told. I have a 3000gram female. She is about 5 ft long and still growing
  • 03-09-2012, 10:05 PM
    Mike41793
    Do you have any links to explain?
    Ive heard of some WC females from the northern part of bp's range getting up to 5000gms... But 8,000gms for a bp???
  • 03-09-2012, 10:07 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Question about genetics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by giejack View Post
    Volta get up to over 8000 grams I have been told. I have a 3000gram female. She is about 5 ft long and still growing

    While there is some locale of ball pythons that gets quite large, never herd 8k gram ball python, if I am wrong some post some info. Google only reviled a craigslist post making the claim you are.
  • 03-09-2012, 11:32 PM
    AGoldReptiles
    "Volta" is the locale of a population of large BP. They are also referred to as Sub-Saharan Giants.

    Mike Wilbanks ( Constrictors Unlimited) recently posted on his FB page a 10k female. :) Just because you can't find it on google does not mean they do not exist!

    To the OP because the offspring get genes from both patents I would say yes it may contribute to some large offspring. They could also take more after the sire and be " normal" sized. I hope this helps, Good Luck.
  • 03-09-2012, 11:47 PM
    Mike41793
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AGoldReptiles View Post
    "Volta" is the locale of a population of large BP. They are also referred to as Sub-Saharan Giants.

    Mike Wilbanks ( Constrictors Unlimited) recently posted on his FB page a 10k female. :) Just because you can't find it on google does not mean they do not exist!

    To the OP because the offspring get genes from both patents I would say yes it may contribute to some large offspring. They could also take more after the sire and be " normal" sized. I hope this helps, Good Luck.

    10K??? Omg thats gigantic lol!
  • 03-10-2012, 12:09 AM
    Slim
    Unless it's some uber double secret probation project, I don't know why we have to scrape the crusty under belly of the internet for a few pictures.

    You'd think we would be able to find pictures of these giants on a web fourm dedicated to ball pythons...wonder where I might find a web site like that?
  • 03-10-2012, 08:04 PM
    AGoldReptiles
    It's an uber triple secret! Shhh
  • 03-10-2012, 08:29 PM
    ball-nut
    It is talked about a little here:
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...n-ball-pythons

    sent from my phone to the internet to your screen.
  • 03-10-2012, 08:32 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    I want to see that girl!
  • 03-10-2012, 09:43 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    I've never heard them called Volta. I've always known them to be sub Saharan giants. Their heads are quite a bit larger too.

    Oh and Josh at Outback reptiles gets them in once in awhile too. I don't see why it wouldn't pass the gene on. They also lay large clutches.


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  • 03-11-2012, 12:14 AM
    joebad976
    I would think the gene gets passed on but you would have to keep the offspring to see. Not something you could physically see like color. If your lucky maybe they grow at a faster rate and could pick them out by growth rate.

    Pretty interesting though
  • 03-11-2012, 10:13 AM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Question about genetics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AGoldReptiles View Post
    "Volta" is the locale of a population of large BP. They are also referred to as Sub-Saharan Giants.

    Mike Wilbanks ( Constrictors Unlimited) recently posted on his FB page a 10k female. :) Just because you can't find it on google does not mean they do not exist!

    To the OP because the offspring get genes from both patents I would say yes it may contribute to some large offspring. They could also take more after the sire and be " normal" sized. I hope this helps, Good Luck.

    not much can hide from google though lol. So did he post a picture anywhere else? Crazy to think of a ball python 4 times the size of the biggest one I have.
  • 03-11-2012, 11:06 AM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Question about genetics
    Years ago I read a post by someone working with a reported locality line of giant ball pythons (don’t remember the location). Might not be the same region and likely a separate line of import from the ones discussed here. That breeder reported that the line they were working with was difficult to breed. The belief was that any time they were moved it would take years and years for the female to breed again.

    Also, a friend of mine went to a BBQ at Tom Crutchfields back maybe 15 years ago when the big show was in Orlando. At that time he reported seeing an 8 ft ball python that ate rabbits. Never heard anything else about that snake or what became of it.

    My biggest two each weighed about 4,300 grams before laying clutches of 12 and 14 last year. They are 15 - 16 years old so still with their prime ahead of them. One of them is a very sporadic breeder though having only produced 3 clutches in the 13 years I've had her. Last year was one of her years and it included a November move with a longer than I would have liked cool period so I'm wondering if her ancestors might be from a region that needs more cooling than normal ball pythons. I got her from a lady who got her from Tracy Barker but other than that she was hatched in 96 I don't know her origins (if she was an import and from where or captive bred and from any particular line). Not sure if she will go again this year (if track record is an indication I could be waiting another 3-4 years) but would be nice because two of the males I bred her to are sons of my other big girl (who after taking many years to start breeding is building huge to go her 6th year in a row). So not 10,000 gram giants but I’d love to hang on to a few morph daughters from these two closing on 5,000 gram lines crossed.
  • 03-11-2012, 11:28 PM
    Brandon Osborne
    I have a 5500+ female het pied. I call her Big Bertha. She lays 13-14 eggs typically and babies hatch around 90-95 grams. Her offspring grow quickly and produce large clutches at younger ages.
  • 03-13-2012, 10:26 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    C'mon guys...can we see photos? Pwetty Pwease?
  • 03-13-2012, 10:37 PM
    King's Royal Pythons
    Re: Question about genetics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne View Post
    I have a 5500+ female het pied. I call her Big Bertha. She lays 13-14 eggs typically and babies hatch around 90-95 grams. Her offspring grow quickly and produce large clutches at younger ages.

    I've personally seen Big Bertha; kinda scary to see a ball python that large if you ask me lol!! Really she was impressive!
  • 03-16-2012, 07:02 PM
    cfhmac (dustin)
    ive seen big bertha also plus i have one of her sons ( my pied ). their is a video on youtube of a a 10lb spider ball the title is called ( The biggest spider ball python??) she is huge
  • 03-16-2012, 09:54 PM
    Homegrownscales
    My big Betty is 4700 g as of before breeding season. She was a rescue Of mine that weighed in at a sparse 1300g when I got her. She was the same length as of now.
    http://img.tapatalk.com/c6e4c3e4-eeb8-7ec5.jpg
    Here she is breeding a 500g sterling.


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