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Watch this video - KONY 2012 - You wont regret it!
You wont regret it, I promise :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc
Please comment and discuss! Spread the video please! Thanks!
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I was a member of Invisible Children when I was in high school, it truly is terrible
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This is what our govt should have been doing instead of afghanistan
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I read somewhere that only like 31% of the money raised actually goes to the children in uganda...
Anyone else hear this or can clarify?
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Re: Watch this video - KONY 2012 - You wont regret it!
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Originally Posted by Mike41793
I read somewhere that only like 31% of the money raised actually goes to the children in uganda...
Anyone else hear this or can clarify?
I heard that it was 25%. I don't have actual proof to back that up though.
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Imo
why do Americans believe that this is an American government issue, is this Not why the United Nations was formed.. to deal with injustice for all of humanity.
why do we insist that every issue we have to be throwing our weight around just to say we can. this is exactly why the rest of the worlds views of us are so jaded.
is what kony is doing wrong? Yes
should he be punished? yes
is it the USA job to stop kony? NO, can we help ? yes will we help depends on the people of Uganda
do we need to fund a grass roots project to help? maybe
but this man has been on the most wanted list for a long time
the people of Uganda and other African countries should do something.
take a stand
you cant expect America to solve your problems for you
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I watched that video for the first time last night. All I could think about was about 12 hours before watching it I was complaining about my job and annoyed because my apartment was a mess. I felt so guilty, the things we worry about, worry ourselves sick about sometimes, is so minimal compared to this. No one should have to live like that...
Rob_D, just because it isn't an "American issue" doesn't mean we don't have (at the very least) a moral obligation to help. We don't have to step in to every little issue with other countries, but thousands...THOUSANDS of children being kidnapped in their sleep, forced to kill their parents, mutilate other children and rape little girls....this is a huge problem...like....Hitler huge problem. If you ask me, this is one of the very few things the government has actually done right lately, meaning jumping in and sending some help there.
All I know is this guy better get caught, I don't care if it's the Uganda government, American government, or anyone. If anyone can do this, it's us. I'd be horrified if this kind of thing happened here, and my son had to go to sleep every night scared to death that he was going to be taken away.
End rant. Not sure I care what percentage actually goes to Uganda. It can't be cheap to make the products, fly support to Africa, etc etc.
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I'm really not trying to offend anyone but all I can think about is the movie Team America World Police when I think of people demading that our government "save" other countries from their own monsters. *can't get that theme song out of my head now*
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I am not sure why this is an issue now. Mr. Kony has been on the run since 2008 when the local military went after him. All of the pictures and footage in the video are from before 2008.
So while he was a tyrant, he's not currently relevant now as far as I can tell.
It's certainly nothing we need to be sending troops in for. Uganda's own army should be able to clean his remnant up in time.
They should have made and published this years ago for it to be truly effective.
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There are over 30 million people in Uganda. They can stand up against their own local terrorists. If you want to help... then help, but don't expect big daddy America to go and save the day every time some distant butthole is allowed by his own country to kill people. We are not the world police.
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Imo
no disrespect intended
Lgray23 my comment is not to take anything away from the suffering and injustice that is taking place.
I fully support the US lending aid. the united states is not the world police contrary to popular opinion.
i do believe that what happens in Africa is horrible and should be stopped. this also did not just begin last night it has been going on for excess of 15+ years..
however this is a UN issue not a US led operative. the United states supports The United Nations and if this was a UN led resolution then i am sure the USA would jump on board
as per the Hitler reference we did not jump into that once hitler began killing Jews
On December 7, 1941, while German armies were freezing before Moscow, Japan suddenly pushed the United States into the struggle by attacking the American naval base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. Four days later Hitler declared war on the United States. President Roosevelt called on Congress for immediate and massive expansion of the armed forces. Twenty years of neglect and indifference, however, could not be overcome in a few days.
I agree that no one should have to live this way. it is extremely sad but we cannot force democracy on the world.
we dont govern the world we govern our country.
I am all for justice and equality i just dont see how this falls under Americas responsibility.
incidents like this will continue to happen. so anytime someone kills another should America get involved? how about 500 people? 1000? 100,000? in mexico there have been 30000 murders by cartels in the past 4 year should we step in? or let them govern themselves
we live in america. we are entitled to freedoms the the rest of the world is not privy too
p.s. this sort of thing would not happen in America, we would have this type of tyrant locked up in one of our many over crowded prisons. as long as we hold to our beliefs and set a higher standard we can only hope the rest of the world takes notice and tries to be like US
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In case you forgot we are the world police. We have not fought a fight that was our own since wwII. and also keep in mind the money being donated is to fight and lobby to support the agenda. It was never a donation campaign to 100% go to the affected children. The 30% you speak off has been spent on aid, schooling and campaigning. Do i think we need to keep our noses clean in others problems? You betcha but we were in afghanistan for no reason. Nothing good has come out of it. Nothing was going to be gained. At least with this it will actually help. And yes kony has been on the run but if the pressure gets off of him he will just go back to doing the same thing. These 30 million in uganda you speak off dont have infrastructure, military means, heck they dont even have clean water. People need to stop trying to draw a parallel to our way of life and theirs. None of us have ever had to walk a mile in those peoples shoes. While we are trying to drum up a measlly 150k to file lawsuits to be able to keep snakes these kony 2012 supporters are drumming up millions. Maybe andrew from usark should get the kony 2012 guy to lobby for us lol
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In case you forgot we are the world police. We have not fought a fight that was our own since wwII. and also keep in mind the money being donated is to fight and lobby to support the agenda. It was never a donation campaign to 100% go to the affected children. The 30% you speak off has been spent on aid, schooling and campaigning. Do i think we need to keep our noses clean in others problems?
lol that is a common misconception. we are not the world police and nor should we be... hence the UN..
193 Member States to express their views, through the General Assembly, the Security Council, the Economic and Social Council and other bodies and committees.
IT IS THEIR (UN's) JOB not the USA acting rouge
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Look i totally agree with how you want things to be but just because you dont think we should be the world police doesnt mean its true. If we were not the world police then we would have never been in vietnam, iraq 1.0 and 2.0 and afghanistan. Those are just 4 of the bigger campaigns that had nothing to do with us. We have set a standard on how we aproach the world. Like it or not and i do not but it is what it is. I am well versed in what the uniyed nations is and what their role is but dont think for a second that the un isnt running to america everytime there is something going on. We are the world bullies. I dont mind be the world bullies but in return we are also the world police. Oh and how could i forget somalia. My uncle lost a leg and a hand in somalia for what? Not a damn thing but we were playing world police there
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Re: Watch this video - KONY 2012 - You wont regret it!
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Originally Posted by snake lab
Look i totally agree with how you want things to be but just because you dont think we should be the world police doesnt mean its true. If we were not the world police then we would have never been in vietnam, iraq 1.0 and 2.0 and afghanistan. Those are just 4 of the bigger campaigns that had nothing to do with us. We have set a standard on how we aproach the world. Like it or not and i do not but it is what it is. I am well versed in what the uniyed nations is and what their role is but dont think for a second that the un isnt running to america everytime there is something going on. We are the world bullies. I dont mind be the world bullies but in return we are also the world police. Oh and how could i forget somalia. My uncle lost a leg and a hand in somalia for what? Not a damn thing but we were playing world police there
Even if it is true that we are perceived (and in fact see ourselves as) the world police, why do us citizens have to encourage it by playing into it so readily? If you truly do not support America as the "world police", then stop demanding our government take action on issues like this.
And I'm not even going to go into the "we're just going to go to war for the heck of it" attitude of America you just brought up. There's always some sort of "prize" at the end of the line that keeps America moving towards war.
"[On the US's involvement in Somali] Critics of US involvement argued that the US government was intervening so as to gain control of oil concessions for American companies, with a survey of Northeast Africa by the World Bank and UN ranking Somalia second only to Sudan as the top prospective producer. They pointed out that just before pro-U.S. President Siad Barre was overthrown in 1991, nearly two-thirds of the country's territory had been granted as oil concessions to Conoco, Amoco, Chevron and Phillips. A few days prior to the arrival of the Marines, Conoco also lent its Mogadishu corporate compound to the US embassy, with the George H. W. Bush administration's special envoy making use of it as a temporary headquarters."
As a side note, I might have just derailed this thread and opened up a huge can of worms and for that, I'm sorry in advance but I just had to say something. No hard feeling Snake Lab :P ! <3
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Lol im not breaking out the can opener for them worms. Look i totally agree. I am so against getting involved in military actions that have nothing to do with us. This particular issue is so hard cause kids are involved and they dont vote, they dont have agendas, they dont hate they are just kids. This guy needs to be found and shot dead in the streets like a dog.
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plain and simple...
A MAN THAT DOES NOT STAND FOR HIS BROTHERS RIGHT DOES NOT DESERVE THEM EITHER!!!
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Re: Watch this video - KONY 2012 - You wont regret it!
YAwn,, I lasted til 1:36.....
something that opened my eyes today was when i was talking to a friend from africa,,, yes, a TRUE African American. HE was telling me how he loved American politics because they told the truth,,, (what is in the best intrest of America). He is an educated man, and told me that everywhere (other than America),, descised the truth... He told me how everything from his place was sent to russia, and in return, they (russia) would trade guns..... bottom line,,, its terrible whats going on outside of America,,, hell its terrible whats going on INSIDE America, but we (America) cant change the world,,, and we need to understand that, and embrace what WE have, and not try to enforce what WE have upon others...
spook
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Originally Posted by MasonC2K
Yea i saw this too Chris... I knew most of what she said from my own research but the firsthand examples from ACTUAL ugandans is nice. I know she could be lying, but i doubt it...
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Re: Watch this video - KONY 2012 - You wont regret it!
Anyone see the video of the of the guy behind the Kony 2012, made another video where he was actually with the uganda gov't officials in the "bush" and he was intrviewing the impossible to find Osama Bin Kony:confused:, weird. I gotta find that link again.
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