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Collapsing Eggs!

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  • 03-06-2012, 06:57 PM
    JulieInNJ
    Collapsing Eggs!
    So my day old eggs are starting to collapse and I can't figure out why. They looked great last night but this morning they were collapsing.

    My vermiculite is at a 3:2 ratio with the water (so it's certainly damp enough) and the eggs are on a light diffuser. They're the only eggs in my mini-fridge incubator and the temps are steady at 89 degrees, using a proportional thermostat and a bunch of water bottles. I also have an open pan of water at the bottom for additional humidity.

    The only thing I can think is that the fan was drying them out, so around midday, I put the lid on the tub.

    Any thoughts/suggestions? I wanted to take pics, but I didn't want to mess with them again.
  • 03-06-2012, 07:23 PM
    BallsUnlimited
    keep the lid on the egg box and you will be fine. The fan is deff robbing the eggs of moisture
  • 03-06-2012, 07:51 PM
    JulieInNJ
    That was my thought too. I'm glad it's such an easy fix!
  • 03-06-2012, 08:15 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    If your using the substratless method where eggs are on the light diffuser, you need to add a lot more water than 3:2. Since the eggs arent in the substrate absorbing the moisture you need more to fill up the tubs ambient humidity

    If not you will run into dry eggs very very fast. I have my vermiculite soaked to see puddles of water
  • 03-06-2012, 08:18 PM
    JulieInNJ
    Adding more water now!!! Thanks, Rich!
  • 03-06-2012, 08:20 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Collapsing Eggs!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JulieInNJ View Post
    Adding more water now!!! Thanks, Rich!

    Be sure that the light diffuser doesnt sink, If it does double up on the light diffuser or put in some spacers in the 4 corners to support it
  • 03-06-2012, 08:24 PM
    JulieInNJ
    It bubbled up through the diffuser a bit but never came over top. I'll keep an eye on the eggs - any idea how long it will take them to reabsorb?
  • 03-06-2012, 08:35 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    They should start to pop back out in 24 hours or less. Just leave them be.

    I rarely ever add water to the tubs from the initial soaking on the day their set in. You probably wont need to add more either unless you have the fan blowing hard right on the tub.
  • 03-07-2012, 02:53 AM
    ImBooBy
    Keep lids on your egg boxes. there's no point adding right amount of water to medium if you dont keep the lid on. All the water will evaporate at that temp and you will have dry medium. I like to do 8:10 ratio but thats just personal preference
  • 03-07-2012, 04:28 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    A tip to prevent the light diffuser from sinking is to run to your local craft store and buy up some sheets of plastic cross-stitch canvas. They are incredibly cheap and easy to cut with scissors. Cut to fit the inside of your egg box end to end. Put this under the light diffuser on top of the substrate like this...

    http://img.tapatalk.com/c6e4e281-1be5-7dc8.jpg
    This way you can make it very wet without sinkage.

    I need to take another picture of one of my egg boxes since the only one I have fast access to that shows the plastic cross-stitch canvas also has a hatchling in an egg in it lol!
  • 03-07-2012, 07:00 AM
    JulieInNJ
    Thanks everyone for the great tips!!!
  • 03-07-2012, 08:57 PM
    wax32
    That's just what I do with the cross stitch stuff:

    http://www.wax32.com/balls/2012Mar02_dorothy2.jpg
  • 03-08-2012, 12:34 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Awesome! You got pink!
  • 03-08-2012, 12:49 AM
    buddha1200
    hope everything works out for you.
  • 03-08-2012, 01:54 AM
    heathers*bps
    Dumb question, when using a light diffused, how do you keep your eggs from rolling around when the tubs are moved?
  • 03-08-2012, 02:00 AM
    BigJ
    Re: Collapsing Eggs!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by heathers*bps View Post
    Dumb question, when using a light diffused, how do you keep your eggs from rolling around when the tubs are moved?

    I have seen people use toothpicks or small dowel rods to stabilize the eggs (a couple on each side of the egg)
  • 03-08-2012, 05:47 AM
    bones93
    If you are going to go with the diffuser you can add as much water as you want since the eggs are not touching it. This is the method I use and takes all the guess work out. Good luck!
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