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genetic wizard 3.0?

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  • 03-06-2012, 12:03 AM
    samgoody9
    genetic wizard 3.0?
    how accurate is genetic wizard 3.0??????:confused:
  • 03-06-2012, 12:05 AM
    satomi325
    really accurate.
    Why? Are you having problems using it?
  • 03-06-2012, 12:12 AM
    The Serpent Merchant
    I have never seen it be wrong.
  • 03-06-2012, 12:13 AM
    samgoody9
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    really accurate.
    Why? Are you having problems using it?

    na i just wanted to know if it was good to go to to see morph mixing
  • 03-06-2012, 11:13 PM
    dorvaan
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    A really newb question....

    Why are there no "normal" listed in the Genetic Wizard? What if someone started breeding with one morph and a normal? Is there a general formula used then?
  • 03-06-2012, 11:17 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Reading is good for you lol, from the Genetic wizard Page:

    Quote:

    In order to breed a snake to a normal ball python, leave one side of the wizard blank and that snake will be treated as normal.
  • 03-06-2012, 11:27 PM
    dorvaan
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    Reading is good for you lol, from the Genetic wizard Page:

    Well, I'm a dumbass! :weirdface

    Thanks, though. :)
  • 03-06-2012, 11:31 PM
    dorvaan
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    Maybe I'm missing something else here, so I apologize in advance. Is there any way (even if not on this page) to look at a morph, and find out exactly what combinations have what percentage of producing that?

    It's way out of my league right now, but I'm thinking that if I ever wanted to get into breeding, it might be nice to work backwards.

    Example:

    I want Z.
    Z is the result 25% of the time of X and Y.
    X is the result 50% of the time of A and B.
    and so on...
  • 03-06-2012, 11:42 PM
    Mike41793
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dorvaan View Post
    Maybe I'm missing something else here, so I apologize in advance. Is there any way (even if not on this page) to look at a morph, and find out exactly what combinations have what percentage of producing that?

    It's way out of my league right now, but I'm thinking that if I ever wanted to get into breeding, it might be nice to work backwards.

    Example:

    I want Z.
    Z is the result 25% of the time of X and Y.
    X is the result 50% of the time of A and B.
    and so on...

    I think i understand what your saying and i believe the answer is no. That would involve sooooo many diferent combos its unreal. What you mean is like how can i get a super pastel? From a: pastel x pastel, pastel x super pastel, bumblebee x pastel, bumblebee x bumblebee, etc etc... It would take foreverrrrr, just think about all the combos that could make just a super pastel...
  • 03-06-2012, 11:42 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    The closest thing that you will come to what you want is this:

    What you do is go to "Z" page on World of Ball Pythons, and see what the morphs needed to produce "Z" are, then plug them into the Genetic Calculator.

    Here is a simple one:

    The Bumble Bee: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/bumble-bee/

    So now you know that you need a spider and a pastel to produce a bumble bee so you put them into the genetics calculator:

    Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png

    You can then look into other morphs that include the pastel and spider genetics and compare them to other options.
  • 03-06-2012, 11:46 PM
    dorvaan
    I'm going to spend so much of my life on that page. haha

    Thanks for the help folks!
  • 03-06-2012, 11:49 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dorvaan View Post
    I'm going to spend so much of my life on that page. haha

    Thanks for the help folks!

    be careful, thousands of dollars have been lost due to to the genetic wizard and big dreams lol :colbert:
  • 03-06-2012, 11:52 PM
    dorvaan
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    The closest thing that you will come to what you want is this:

    What you do is go to "Z" page on World of Ball Pythons, and see what the morphs needed to produce "Z" are, then plug them into the Genetic Calculator.

    Here is a simple one:

    The Bumble Bee: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/bumble-bee/

    So now you know that you need a spider and a pastel to produce a bumble bee so you put them into the genetics calculator:

    Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png

    You can then look into other morphs that include the pastel and spider genetics and compare them to other options.

    On this note, however. How does this work?
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/mystic/

    There is only one Co-Dominant trait listed.
  • 03-06-2012, 11:56 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dorvaan View Post
    On this note, however. How does this work?
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/mystic/

    There is only one Co-Dominant trait listed.

    That means that it is a "base morph" Base morphs occur naturally in the wild and only have 1 mutated gene. The only way to produce a mystic is to first have one.

    Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png
  • 03-06-2012, 11:59 PM
    dorvaan
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    That means that it is a "base morph" Base morphs occur naturally in the wild and only have 1 mutated gene. The only way to produce a mystic is to first have one.

    OK. That makes a lot of sense. So, basically, any of the "base morphs" could happen simply by breeding 2 normals? It's just an incredibly long shot on some of them?

    And regarding thousands of dollars being lost...As I said, I'm a LONG way from breeding (if ever). But genetics fascinate me. I've always been one of those "I wonder what happens if we mix this together" guys :)
  • 03-07-2012, 12:00 AM
    Mike41793
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dorvaan View Post
    On this note, however. How does this work?
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/mystic/

    There is only one Co-Dominant trait listed.

    Thats bc its not a combo. Its the same as a pastel.
  • 03-07-2012, 12:03 AM
    The Serpent Merchant
    base morphs differ from designer morphs (also known as combo morphs or multi gene animals)

    to produce a designer morph you have to breed 2 or more base morphs together

    Once again with the bumble bee example:

    the bumble bee is a designer morph. To produce one you breed a pastel and spider together. tPastels and spiders are both base morphs.
  • 03-07-2012, 12:05 AM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dorvaan View Post
    OK. So, basically, any of the "base morphs" could happen simply by breeding 2 normals?

    While it is technically possible, it is extremely unlikely. Base morphs evolved in the wild over a long period of time. they have 1 gene that has mutated making them different from a "normal" Ball python.
  • 03-07-2012, 12:08 AM
    dorvaan
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    While it is technically possible, it is extremely unlikely. Base morphs evolved in the wild over a long period of time. they have 1 gene that has mutated making them different from a "normal" Ball python.

    PM sent so as to stop hijacking the original intent of this thread :)
  • 03-07-2012, 12:23 AM
    ExotixTowing
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dorvaan View Post
    PM sent so as to stop hijacking the original intent of this thread :)

    Actually keep the posts coming!!!

    I'm close to having the stock I need To be producing Queen bees and others

    It all starts with a lesser :D
  • 03-07-2012, 12:28 AM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ExotixTowing View Post
    Actually keep the posts coming!!!

    I'm close to having the stock I need To be producing Queen bees and others

    It all starts with a lesser :D

    If you have any specific questions you can post a new thread, or send me a PM, I'll be happy to help in any way that I can!
  • 03-07-2012, 01:13 AM
    ExotixTowing
    Re: genetic wizard 3.0?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    If you have any specific questions you can post a new thread, or send me a PM, I'll be happy to help in any way that I can!

    No questions. As of yet, I have read read and read some more.. I think I am going in the right direction starting with. Platinum Lesser male for a albino normal female

    Then maybe a spider or a pied
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