How much should I ask Adult pair of 100% Het Pied

I have a 2500+ gram Female that is prego I think and a 900ish gram male. I dont know what to ask. Llooking for a little help. I also have a very nice (5) 41qt
rack with all electronics. I just brought my baby girl home Friday and I dont think keeping these snakes is an option.

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Originally Posted by mckaax

I just brought my baby girl home Friday and I dont think keeping these snakes is an option.

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Why, is the baby going to eat them? As long as you wash your hands between handling the snakes and your daughter, she is not at risk from a pair of BPs. However, if you're intent on selling them, you should check out prices on Kingsnake.com and Faunaclassifieds.com. You may have difficulty selling them as hets without paperwork from the original breeder, unless you have a reputation built that can back them (not saying you don't, I just don't know you).

What they are worth and what YOU might get from them will be 2 different things, if they come with paperwork from a reputable breeder it will be a little easier if they do not than I am afraid it will be very difficult since you do not have an established reputation yourself.

The male you might get $100 if you are lucky Het Males are a very tough sell whether they are hatchlings or adult especially for a mutation that is that common.

Female that size I personally would not take less than $1000.

Again it depends on whether you can prove their origin, and how fast you want them gone.

Another thing to worry about is the stress and potential for the female to not have a good lay outcome. Better for the girls to have a stable environment in my opinion. Where are you located? Maybe someone closer to you will help. Baby are wonderful, and do not have to change your life with dedication and time but they can make you re-evaluate choices made. Snakes and breeding are like any other hobby. Some people get in and out quickly, and some are in it for the long haul, and some come back to it later in life. Good luck with whatever choices you make:)
*Fila*

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Originally Posted by mckaax

I have a 2500+ gram Female that is prego I think and a 900ish gram male. I dont know what to ask. Llooking for a little help. I also have a very nice (5) 41qt
rack with all electronics. I just brought my baby girl home Friday and I dont think keeping these snakes is an option.

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I really do not want to get rid of them at this point. I am just sooo OCD about germs and never have been like this. I have frozen rats in my freezer on the bottom shelf do you think the germs will float in the air and get on her frozen breast milk? I may try to move the rats in the basement with the snakes and just get a small freezer down there so they wont be anywhere near each other.

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Originally Posted by mckaax

I really do not want to get rid of them at this point. I am just sooo OCD about germs and never have been like this. I have frozen rats in my freezer on the bottom shelf do you think the germs will float in the air and get on her frozen breast milk? I may try to move the rats in the basement with the snakes and just get a small freezer down there so they wont be anywhere near each other.

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You'll have to search for the article but there was a study published not too long ago that showed children raised in OCD, animal-less households were much more likely to develop allergies and asthma than children raised in a household with furry pets. Being around a reasonable number of germs and foreign molecular bodies is healthy for growing immune systems... without the exposure, they have no way to adapt (for acquired immunity, not innate).

There shouldn't be any issues with food and anything from the frozen rats getting into your food or the baby's. Biggest thing is just make sure you wash your hands after feeding or holding them. Sanitizer in the gallon jugs with the pump comes in handy too. We still it both now after with all of ours and the now 3 year old who loves them all. Keep in mind we only had 2 balls and a boa when our daughter was born, we now have 12 total and she knows which are "pet rocks", the boas and the corns and milk snakes. lol

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Originally Posted by Jabberwocky Dragons

You'll have to search for the article but there was a study published not too long ago that showed children raised in OCD, animal-less households were much more likely to develop allergies and asthma than children raised in a household with furry pets. Being around a reasonable number of germs and foreign molecular bodies is healthy for growing immune systems... without the exposure, they have no way to adapt (for acquired immunity, not innate).

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:number1: This!

My twins were raised from day one around dogs, cats, and snakes. To be honest, I was too busy taking care of them to worry about disinfecting every binky that hit the floor. I probably don't want to know everything they came in contact with while they were infants and toddlers. They turned out just fine and narry an alergy among them. I wouldn't sweat it. I worry more about the germs on a McDonalds hamburger than I do about the ones on the rats I feed.

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Originally Posted by mckaax

I really do not want to get rid of them at this point. I am just sooo OCD about germs and never have been like this. I have frozen rats in my freezer on the bottom shelf do you think the germs will float in the air and get on her frozen breast milk? I may try to move the rats in the basement with the snakes and just get a small freezer down there so they wont be anywhere near each other.

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Sounds like you figured it out on your own...:gj:.

For now, keeping rats on the bottom shelf is the way to go, and with proper precaution and handling, germ/bacterial transference should not be an issue.

thanks for the support guys i think ill try to keep them for a while and just be extra careful.

If your female does turn out to be pregnant and you hatch out a piebald their sell-ability will skyrocket. As things are, I doubt you'd be able to get much more than you would for normal BPs of the same size unless you can prove your two are from a reputable dealer.

As for kids and animal germs, my folks raised 6 kids with snakes, lizards, turtles, frogs, salamanders, spiders, dogs, cats, chinchilas, gerbils, rats, birds, squirrels, fish and whatever else fell into their animal lovin laps. We all turned out just fine and their love for all things living was successfully passed on.

Those frozen rodents are whole and have not been cut up and handled by dirty hands that have come in contact with hundreds of pounds of other bloody raw meat in a work day.. Such as all the other meat you eat has. Beef, pork, chicken, lunch meat... Which is where most of the food born illnesses originate from anyway..

In my opinion, those frozen rats are safer than anything else in your freezer or fridge combined.

And yes it's true, children raised in a home obsessed with disinfecting every little thing with wipes, bleach, etc, are far more prone to becoming sick. They also develop allergies later in life to whatever they did not regularly come in contact with as a child. Such as furry pets, milk, etc..

My Dr tried telling me my son was lactose intolerant as a baby because he'd spit up the formula a lot and they wanted to put him on soy. I knew this was false and putting him on soy would mess up hormone development and also make him lactose intolerant later on. I had them put him on the nestle good start with digestible proteins and the problem stopped. I was right. He now drinks whole milk every day with no problems and always has.

Children have to be exposed to these things. Germs to strengthen their immune systems. Milk to prevent lactose intolerance. Fur and dander to help prevent allergies.

The USA is the only country obsessed with cleanliness and disinfection. It is also the country with the most sickness and highest number of cases of allergies in the world.

Kids have been raised for a long time. Yours will be just fine. When my 13 year old came home from the hospital he was in the back seat and i had to stop off on the way and pick up a rodent order lol. He turned out just fine. My 8 year old is fine and my 7 month old is doing great. All living under the same roof as a couple hundred animals depending on time of year