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I am new to BP breeding, and could use some input. I have only one pair of 3 year old 50% Het albinos.

I think I started late, but yesterday I put the male in with female for first time.
They ate 2 days ago.

They are now sharing the same hide spot.

Should I leave them? Look in the hid spot? Take him out and re-intro in few days?
Any tips welcome

Tank is 90 ish in hot spots during day, 80ish at night

Technically the breeding season starts in November, but there are some people who breed year round.

most people leave a pair to breed for 2-3 days then give them a few days rest (offer food) if they take food wait another 2 days for digestion

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Originally Posted by AdamF

I am new to BP breeding, and could use some input. I have only one pair of 3 year old 50% Het albinos.

I think I started late, but yesterday I put the male in with female for first time.
They ate 2 days ago.

They are now sharing the same hide spot.

Should I leave them? Look in the hid spot? Take him out and re-intro in few days?
Any tips welcome

Tank is 90 ish in hot spots during day, 80ish at night

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I take out hides during breeding so they cant hide from eachother and so I can witness a lock if it happens. Generally youll want to leave them together for 3-4 then separate 3-4 days to feed and so they can get rest before being introduced again.

You don't need to breed them more than about once ever four-six weeks, so many people over breed their males so much

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Originally Posted by dreese88

You don't need to breed them more than about once ever four-six weeks, so many people over breed their males so much

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I probably should have mentioned that. I go once every 3-4 weeks or so early in the season and then more often when they are nearing ovulation. I think I heard someone say that they like to at least get one lock between every shed cycle throughout the season and they say this works well for them. Thanks for bringing this up.

This is also my 1st season breeeding (good luck to you) from what ive read and been told about 6 - 8 good locks and your good. Ive personally had my males lock with my females 4 times so far in a short period of time (2 1/2 weeks), since then both females have denied the boys twice in a row when introduced and are eating speratically. Im hoping they are preggo but like ive been told they life to confused us.

I removed hides, and found them entwined, but not "locked" as it were.

I will leave for another day or 2, then try again.

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Originally Posted by Akren_905

This is also my 1st season breeeding (good luck to you) from what ive read and been told about 6 - 8 good locks and your good. Ive personally had my males lock with my females 4 times so far in a short period of time (2 1/2 weeks), since then both females have denied the boys twice in a row when introduced and are eating speratically. Im hoping they are preggo but like ive been told they life to confused us.

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Technically it only takes one lock at the right time:D

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Originally Posted by Akren_905

This is also my 1st season breeeding (good luck to you) from what ive read and been told about 6 - 8 good locks and your good. Ive personally had my males lock with my females 4 times so far in a short period of time (2 1/2 weeks), since then both females have denied the boys twice in a row when introduced and are eating speratically. Im hoping they are preggo but like ive been told they life to confused us.

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Definitely not gravid if still eating, keep trying to feed and breed them, but not as often as you were on the breeding front

I think this is "lock"!

Opinions?
Can someone give me specific time line now...shows gravid, lay eggs, hatch?



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There isn't a specific time line for this. When she had her ovulation, you'll have a shed about two weeks later then eggs about a month after that shed

Do I need to re-introduce the male at all over the next few weeks?

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Originally Posted by dreese88

There isn't a specific time line for this. When she had her ovulation, you'll have a shed about two weeks later then eggs about a month after that shed

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Yes, introduce him once about every 4-6 weeks

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Originally Posted by dreese88

Yes, introduce him once about every 4-6 weeks

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Wont' I miss the season if i wait 4 weeks?

You won't miss anything if you wait a few weeks to re-introduce the male. Unfortunately, there is no true time line to give you as far as when she will lay eggs after the first lock.

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Originally Posted by joebad976

You won't miss anything if you wait a few weeks to re-introduce the male. Unfortunately, there is no true time line to give you as far as when she will lay eggs after the first lock.

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I have read where folks leave the pair together for longer than a few days. i suppose that is not the thing to do?

I put my males in for a few days, or until I see a lock. Then I remove for a couple of days, then back in. They get a week break at least once, or whenever they seem to have been working hard, lol.
Some males will eat if given a break...others simply frantically roam the front of their bin, so it doesn't seem they really get much rest.

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

I put my males in for a few days, or until I see a lock. Then I remove for a couple of days, then back in. They get a week break at least once, or whenever they seem to have been working hard, lol.
Some males will eat if given a break...others simply frantically roam the front of their bin, so it doesn't seem they really get much rest.

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My male must smell her in the enclosure above him. Last year, after taking FT food for 1st 2 years, he stopped eating (figured later it was cause of female), and i now have to give him live mouse to "get him going", then follow that with FT rat.

He has been very active at night near the top of his cage.

Curious, why do some folks say wait 4 weeks, others say few days?

I don't mean to sound rude by saying this, but you clearly did no research before throwing this pair together. Yes, we were all new at some point (heck I am still fairly new to breeding), but you need to do research before diving into this. I wish you the best of luck and the people on here are very helpful.

On a side note, have you put any consideration into how you want to incubate the eggs and house your hatchlings? This may be months down the road, but you need to be ready before hand. Just a thought.

Good luck! :gj:

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Originally Posted by AdamF

Curious, why do some folks say wait 4 weeks, others say few days?

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Most people that refer to the few days in, few days out "rule" are breeding more than one female with a male. They aren't putting the exact same pair in together every week. My male goes in with a female for three days (or less when he locks sooner), rests and feeds during the next three days, and then goes to another female. He is only seeing each female about every 4-5 weeks.

Please make sure you have a plan for the eggs and hatchlings if you are breeding - there is no reason to rush if you need until next season to be prepared. I know you don't want to put your female through unnecessary strain, or risk the babies, by not figuring it out until things happen.

I have thought it through, and did research (just missed the part about season starting in Nov..oops, LOL)
In fact< i bred snakes 35 years ago as a kid, so I am not a rookie, nor am I an breeding enthusiast. I bought this pair of 100% Hets to try my hand at it. I waited the 3 years, kept decent records, and here I am.

I am picking up a hovabator incubator at next month's show in NY, and I have plenty of food on hand, along with caging supplies.

I come to these forums precisely because I want to learn more first hand from a variety of "live" sources

I appreciate everyone's input.

The season doesn't start in November...my pewter female had been bred several times by the time November came around. Most start to begin to try and cycle between November and january, but really the season isn't until your female decides the it's time