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  • 04-02-2005, 03:37 PM
    ballpythonandragon
    What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    Hello im looking to buy a control unit to keep the temps just right what is the differance between the two. Im thinking about getting them through MD what is the best for the money? Thanks Aaron
  • 04-02-2005, 05:26 PM
    kavmon
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    i have both the helix dbs 1000 and the herpstat. both keep temps really stable and spot on. helix has been around longer but i have not had any problems with either one. you can't go wrong either way. robert coombs has herpstats for 107.00 shipped/ russ rl reptiles has an ad on ks for 125.00 shipped for helix.

    vaughn
  • 04-03-2005, 05:16 PM
    DrEwTiMe
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    Both are those are pretty much the best ones you can buy, so ya either choice will be a great product. I personally use the herpstat.
  • 04-05-2005, 03:43 PM
    justcage
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    The herpstat and the Heilx are identical as far as what they do. They both are a proportional themrostat. The herpstat has a few more features then the heix and is cheaper. Check ut this link on my site for a little comapirson
    www.mgreptiles.com/THERMOCOMPARE.html
  • 04-05-2005, 04:09 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    matt, what features does the herpstat have that the helix does not? I am glad this got brought up since i have been debating on which one to get for the past month.
  • 04-05-2005, 10:01 PM
    DLinK
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by justcage
    The herpstat and the Heilx are identical as far as what they do. They both are a proportional themrostat. The herpstat has a few more features then the heix and is cheaper. Check ut this link on my site for a little comapirson
    www.mgreptiles.com/THERMOCOMPARE.html


    What the.... I clicked that and my IE closed? Is that a problem on my end or yours?
  • 04-06-2005, 03:40 AM
    RobertCoombs
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    what features does the herpstat have that the helix does not? I am glad this got brought up since i have been debating on which one to get for the past month.

    The herpstat has a built in High/Low temp tracking , allows setting and display in 1/10th of a degreee, power matching ( this allows you to match the power curve of the unit to your enclosures effeciency), sensor matching ( this allows you to set your herpstat to match other sensing equipment such as thermocouples or thermistors that are highly calibrated for better control of an incubator environement for sensitive eggs ), allows for the setting of temps in celsious or fahrenheit, it has a cooling function intended for emergency back up fans,
    those are just a few of the features the herpstat has over the helix not to mention turn around time
    http://www.chondrosunlimited.com/available.htm
  • 04-06-2005, 09:30 AM
    mlededee
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    quick question about the herpstat--the new ones measure temps to a tenth of a degree. my question is, when did this feature become available? i bought 2 used herpstats that are fairly new but they don't seem to measure the tenth of a degree--just single degrees--97 as opposed to 97.5. there isn't any setting that you have to enable to turn on the tenth of a degree is there? i just want to make sure i just have the older model and that i'm not missing out.
  • 04-06-2005, 02:06 PM
    justcage
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    The 1/10 of a degree just came out on the display about 2 months ago maybe sooner. Your will do the same thing just put it in incubator mode. Everything is ok on my end, you can goto my site and click on the links/info page to bring up that info and more on heating...
  • 04-06-2005, 02:14 PM
    mlededee
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    how do you put it in incubator mode? i don't see anything about that in the manual...
  • 04-06-2005, 05:03 PM
    kavmon
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    the overall accuracy is the same! i have an old one and a new one. the new ones have that incubator mode and just display tenths of a deg. display resolution is different from overall rated accuracy. nice to have more features though.


    vaughn
  • 04-06-2005, 05:07 PM
    mlededee
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    ooh ok. so the old ones won't show the tenth of a degree at all. that's fine. i have a new one too that i got from matt and then i recently bought these two older ones used. it's all good. :)
  • 04-07-2005, 08:41 PM
    RobertCoombs
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    Vaughn I am currently running tests in my incubator run by a herpstat and using a Cooper SH66A-E 3 zone thermistor, I had it calibrated at 87.0 degrees
    and per calibration reads 86.9 @ 87 .0 degrees within 1/10th of a degree.
    My herpstat registers exactly 87.0 as the cooper registers 86.9 DEAD ON! and very consistant at keeping that temp within .02 degrees
    Not that most snakes or eggs require that kind anally retentive control Its nice to know what you controller is really doing ..Plus I have some special eggs on the way .. I have also tested a DBS-1000 and it fluctuates 1.5 -2.0 degrees per the cooper
  • 04-07-2005, 08:57 PM
    kavmon
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    that really good info rob, i haven't decided which thermocouple thermometer i want to buy yet. i was looking at the fluke series 51-II it is rated at +/- .5 deg F for 150 bucks. was the cooper nist certified and what is the ul listed rated accuracy for it, how much did you pay for it, where at? i'm always looking at good thermometers! that is the hvac tech in me! it is nice to see you have a good thermometer to measure and calibrate with!



    vaughn
  • 04-07-2005, 09:09 PM
    RobertCoombs
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    I got mine here http://www.techinstrument.com/acatal...hermister.html ( third one down)
    They have been really great to work with, they are building specific bare tipped probes for us reptile folks instead of the ones shown for no extra cost
    The Unit I have is not nist certified but has been calibrated and tested and was found to be within .01 calibrated at 87.0 degrees The unit can also be run off of a 9v power supply
    I figured being an HVAC the information would interest you.
  • 04-07-2005, 09:15 PM
    kavmon
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    that's good info rob, for work +/- of 1 deg is fine. no one's home is that precise. but i'm anal about my reptile temps, so i looking for the most accurate thermocouple thermometer at the best price. i'lll check that site out!


    vaughn
  • 04-07-2005, 09:30 PM
    kavmon
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    hey rob, that thermometer looks great! i think that is the one damon's using
    on his albino chondro eggs! check out this site http://www.streck.com/products/qc/tempchex.asp

    they are basically little thermometers sealed in glass vials with fluid made to measure incubator temps. sealed in they don't bounce when you open and close the door, nist certified, .1 deg divisions, and around 40-50 shipped! i've been thinking about these also. i don't think we need anything this precise but if your anal about temp measurement like me, it is good to have.



    vaughn
  • 04-07-2005, 09:49 PM
    RobertCoombs
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    It is infact the same unit Damon is using ,I bought mine on Damons advice and knowing Damon and how much of a perfectionist he is I knew I couldent go wrong with the unit Those temp-chex look interesting, might have to try one out..
    And yes I am anal about my incubation temps also about my herp temps but eggs drive me completly batty when I have them in the incubator
  • 04-07-2005, 09:58 PM
    kavmon
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    rob, i forgot to ask about the special eggs on the way? can you give us some info?



    vaughn
  • 04-07-2005, 10:26 PM
    RobertCoombs
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    Nothing set in stone .. but I had an ovulation from flex on the 13-14th of March and prelay shed on the 5th
    http://www.chondrosunlimited.com/Pho...g/IMG_4759.JPG
  • 04-07-2005, 10:34 PM
    mlededee
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    :D good luck with that. and save me a baby! :P
  • 04-08-2005, 08:50 AM
    Marla
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RobertCoombs
    Nothing set in stone .. but I had an ovulation from flex on the 13-14th of March and prelay shed on the 5th

    :happycry: I'm crossin my fingers for ya! They're so gorgeous.
  • 04-08-2005, 05:38 PM
    RobertCoombs
    Re: What is the best Thermostate or Herpstat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mlededee
    :D good luck with that. and save me a baby! :P


    O reeeaallly......

    Thanks guys If I do get good eggs you probably wont see me for 50 days or so ... Ill be sleeping next to the incubator :)
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