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  • 02-10-2012, 09:45 PM
    fatSNAKEs
    Female Will Not Lockup ... seeking Advice
    Greetings, have not previously posted, but seeking breeding advice. Despite several breeding seasons under my belt, have a challenge with a Female that I believe has not locked up this season. I realize Ball Pythons won't breed until they're ready ... but she's an '08 Lavendar Albino, weighs 1500gms, s/b ready to go. Mating her with a '07 Double Het Pied male, about 1100gms. Environment is perfect, have half dozen other girls breeding with multiple lockups already. Its possible I've just not witnessed a lockup, but have them together weekly, with ample breaks in between and not observed anything. The Female did stop eating around Xmas which I can only assume was not a good sign given it was early in the cycle. Seeking any advice at this point on how members might have had success getting a pair to go. Its a high dollar match, so anxious for results, but not to the point of risking either animal. Thanks in advance, David.
  • 02-10-2012, 09:50 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    It's definitely possible that you haven't seen anything. He might be a shy breeder, but it's also possible they aren't breeding. Have you bred either one of them with different snakes? If you don't want to breed her with anything else, just keep pairing those two and hope you just haven't caught them in the act.
  • 02-10-2012, 11:16 PM
    aalomon
    Re: Female Will Not Lockup ... seeking Advice
    Hope shes not like one of my girls. She was a '04 that didnt show any interest in breeding until the 2010 season. They do things on their own time, and just dont tell us whats up.
  • 02-10-2012, 11:20 PM
    Mike41793
    Are you sure she is not a he?
    A quick popping/probing couldnt hurt...
  • 02-10-2012, 11:35 PM
    fatSNAKEs
    Re: Female Will Not Lockup ... seeking Advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters View Post
    It's definitely possible that you haven't seen anything. He might be a shy breeder, but it's also possible they aren't breeding. Have you bred either one of them with different snakes? If you don't want to breed her with anything else, just keep pairing those two and hope you just haven't caught them in the act.

    I have not bred either previously. I did insert my male Super Pastel with the pair last night in hopes to spur the Double Het. I'm hoping your right, and have just not witnessed anything yet, but I'm pretty observant. thx
  • 02-10-2012, 11:36 PM
    fatSNAKEs
    Re: Female Will Not Lockup ... seeking Advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Are you sure she is not a he?
    A quick popping/probing couldnt hurt...

    its a good question, believe me I've popped her several times doubting myself as well. thx
  • 02-10-2012, 11:37 PM
    fatSNAKEs
    Re: Female Will Not Lockup ... seeking Advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aalomon View Post
    Hope shes not like one of my girls. She was a '04 that didnt show any interest in breeding until the 2010 season. They do things on their own time, and just dont tell us whats up.

    Wow six years, my worry too. thx
  • 02-11-2012, 12:32 AM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Female Will Not Lockup ... seeking Advice
    They go when they want. Just because she is 1500 and you are ready doesn't mean she is. Last year we had over 15 girls that didn't go that should have and this year we already have 5 clutches and expecting 4 more soon. Some girls lay every year some won't. I have all my snakes in the exact same conditions yet some will lay in Jan-Feb and others as late as October-November. If you are doing everything correctly all you can do is be patient. There is a lot of waiting in this game;) I have a 3000 + pastel(my prettiest one) that I am still waiting 4 years on:confused:
  • 02-11-2012, 12:07 PM
    fatSNAKEs
    Re: Female Will Not Lockup ... seeking Advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle View Post
    They go when they want. Just because she is 1500 and you are ready doesn't mean she is. Last year we had over 15 girls that didn't go that should have and this year we already have 5 clutches and expecting 4 more soon. Some girls lay every year some won't. I have all my snakes in the exact same conditions yet some will lay in Jan-Feb and others as late as October-November. If you are doing everything correctly all you can do is be patient. There is a lot of waiting in this game;) I have a 3000 + pastel(my prettiest one) that I arm still waiting 4 years on:confused:

    Interesting. Agree on the waiting game. Have a feeling this is not her year either. Appreciate the feedback.
  • 02-11-2012, 12:34 PM
    R&DP
    Re: Female Will Not Lockup ... seeking Advice
    Have you paired your female with any other males ? I understand you are working on a specific morph, you could be in for a long wait. I have some girls that wont breed with some of my males, and I can throw a different male in and have a lock in no time. Hopfully they where breeding while you where sleeping.
    Good Luck.:snake:
  • 02-11-2012, 02:37 PM
    Domepiece
    Re: Female Will Not Lockup ... seeking Advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by R&DP View Post
    Have you paired your female with any other males ? I understand you are working on a specific morph, you could be in for a long wait. I have some girls that wont breed with some of my males, and I can throw a different male in and have a lock in no time. Hopfully they where breeding while you where sleeping.
    Good Luck.:snake:

    I have the same problem with some of mine, some males wont lock with some females and vice versa, I throw in a differnt male and its locks all day long. Although the other males like you said may be really sneaky about locking.
  • 02-11-2012, 02:45 PM
    fatSNAKEs
    Re: Female Will Not Lockup ... seeking Advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by R&DP View Post
    Have you paired your female with any other males ? I understand you are working on a specific morph, you could be in for a long wait. I have some girls that wont breed with some of my males, and I can throw a different male in and have a lock in no time. Hopfully they where breeding while you where sleeping.
    Good Luck.:snake:

    I paired her this week with my male Super Pastel ... he's an active breeder this season. But the objective was to motivate the Double Het. The Lav-Albino is 66% possible het for Dreamsicle and the male is Double Het for Dream too. So if they breed, I have strong odds on producing a Dreamsicle(s). These are animals I purchased from Ralph Davis back in '08. So again serious investment, aiming high and so the reason for staying focused on this project. They are always intertwined, so hopefully you're right, maybe I've not seen a lockup. Will keep trying. thx for the advice.
  • 02-13-2012, 12:03 AM
    fatSNAKEs
    Re: Female Will Not Lockup ... seeking Advice
    Snow storm hitting tonight around midnight. Will see what happens. :O
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