Determined to get to the bottom of things...

I have 3 opportunities of producing a panda pied this season. With my pewter pieds both breeding and the pewter het pieds, my chances should be pretty favorable. I think there could be more but certain issues are keeping them hidden. I won't say for sure until I see for myself.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF2135.jpg
This girl is an august 2010 hatchling and she is only a few grams shy of the 2000 mark....and breeding like a rabbit.

Good luck to you! I'll take a girl! :)

im still thinking the original panda was a paradox. an all white pied morph that when the paradox spots are showing, a solid black snake hides beneath the white.
adam jeffery

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Originally Posted by adamjeffery

im still thinking the original panda was a paradox. an all white pied morph that when the paradox spots are showing, a solid black snake hides beneath the white.
adam jeffery

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I'm not quite sure I understand your idea. Having seen what the cinny/pied gene does first hand I'm not sure I would call it a paradox. I'm not saying I am right, I'm just not sure what to think about it. I haven't seen a pic of the original panda since 2009. I bet it has quite a few random black spots by now. I'll get some fresh pics of the male this afternoon.

That is one sexy snake. Good luck hitting the odds!

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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne

I think there could be more but certain issues are keeping them hidden. I won't say for sure until I see for myself.

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I'm curious if your hypothesis might relate to the super cinny kinking issue ..?

My last three BP purchases have been various cinny/super cinny pied project animals, and I'm starting to get nervous about the whole super cinny thing given everything I've read ...

PS. I love that "medicine hat" cinny pied :D

Good luck! Let us know what happens.

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Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana

I'm curious if your hypothesis might relate to the super cinny kinking issue ..?

My last three BP purchases have been various cinny/super cinny pied project animals, and I'm starting to get nervous about the whole super cinny thing given everything I've read ...

PS. I love that "medicine hat" cinny pied :D

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Yes. This is exactly what I suspect. I have only had two Super Cinnies hatch with kinks. One was barely noticeable but the other was a trainwreck....but I have hatched out several Silver Bullets and Super Pewters with zero problems. Maybe mine could be chalked up to incubation. We shall see. I'll definitely keep you posted.

She's one hot Pied!! Good luck hitting a Panda.....would definitely like to see another one...

Brandon, Best of luck to you! I love seeing what you produce.

Best of luck on the Red Panda Brandon! :gj:

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Originally Posted by RegiusCo

Best of luck on the Red Panda Brandon! :gj:

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Thanks Marc! So I take it this is what the super cinny pied has been named? Has it been produced yet?

A breeder in Europe apparently produced a Super Cinnmon Pied and named it Red Panda, I've yet to see a picture however...

I would trade a huge part of my collection just to be able to look at that girl every day. I'm in love!

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Originally Posted by spitzu

I would trade a huge part of my collection just to be able to look at that girl every day. I'm in love!

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I should have some available this year. ;)

Careful folks...we're treading very close to advertising outside the For Sale/Wanted/Adoption forum. Please take any further discussions of that nature to PM. :)

I thought the original panda pied was a super black pastel pied? Don't know for sure, but have heard more about the kinking issues in cinni's over BP's. Keep us updated about what you find out about this.

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Originally Posted by MrBig

I thought the original panda pied was a super black pastel pied? Don't know for sure, but have heard more about the kinking issues in cinni's over BP's. Keep us updated about what you find out about this.

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I heard it was BP and Cinny. Only ones that know are those the produced it. As for the kinking issue, I've seen it in both equally. I still have yet to see any duck bill issues though. I'll definitely keep you in the loop.