Need advice on injury

My 3000g female normal who is building eggs at the moment (when it rains it pours) has a serious injury to her mouth.
I dont know what happened...she escaped from her tub twice in the last two days and Ive since fixed her escaping problem. But I didnt notice anything wrong when I put her back in her tub from her escape.
But when I checked on her yesterday her lower mandible lip was turned inside her mouth caught on some lower teeth. She had dried blood in her mouth and on her lips. Her nose looks bruised or has dried blood on it.
We were able to get her lip off her teeth but shes still holding her jaw funny. She constantly yawns trying to adjust it. I hope its not broken but her one jaw just isnt fitting right.
She has quite a bit of bubbly spit in her mouth and shes weezing.
I have an appointment for a vet tomorrow but the problem is we do not have an exotic animal vet here in town. So the vet looking at her will not be educated in herps, it'll be a shot in the dark. The nearest specialist is 3 hours away and its the weekend coming up...noone will be open and I work all weekend. The soonest I could get her to a specialist would be tuesday. The least I want my vet to do is give her some sort of antibiotics.
I dont know if she has now developed an RI or what with the bubbling spit but she looks like shes in pain.
I plan on putting some pedialyte in her water tomorrow but I dont know what else I can do to hold her over until tuesday. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreicate it.

Is it possible that she has a RI and injured herself trying to get the mucus off/out of her mouth?

Pictures would help, but a Vet is your best bet. If things don't appear to worsen I would just try to get her to the specialist.

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

Is it possible that she has a RI and injured herself trying to get the mucus off/out of her mouth?

Pictures would help, but a Vet is your best bet. If things don't appear to worsen I would just try to get her to the specialist.

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I didnt notice any symptoms of an RI before her injury. I dont even know if it is an RI for sure. I cant imagine how she would have dont that to her mouth...and the last feeding I did was a week ago so it wasnt from a feeding. (I feed f/t)
I wont be able to post pictures until tomorrow.

Other than the pedialyte I dont know what else to do. I doubt the vet will tell me much tomorrow. I just hope we can give her some sort of antibiotics for her injury.

I would put her on paper towels for substrate to make sure you can monitor everything. Also the bubbly spit stuff could be like pus or something if there is a wound in her mouth. I would also just bump the temps up on the hot side by one or two degrees. (im not positive on the reasoning for raising the temps but usually on RI threads evryone always suggests it...)

Xray! It is possible ri but if she has damage to her jaw she could also have rib damage too. I would worry about the jaw and bones first.

Best to also get a culture for the RI (if it is) then drugs can be pointed directly to the cause. Once you start drugs the culture is not useful anymore.

Just an FYI, when people say bump the temps up for an RI, they mean ambient temps. Not the hot spot. :)

Also, if it is an RI, she could have been rubbing her nose pretty hard against the sides of the tub to "scratch/scrub" the mucus off her nose/mouth. It would be a stretch, but it's possible. Check the walls of the tub for a dried on whitish substance. That could give you a better idea. When mine had an RI she smeared that nasty slime all over the walls of her enclosure.

If it's not that, I'm not sure how to help. A mouth injury will have to wait for the vet unless someone more experienced can offer up a little more insight.

Best of luck!

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Originally Posted by WarriorPrincess90

Just an FYI, when people say bump the temps up for an RI, they mean ambient temps. Not the hot spot. :)

Also, if it is an RI, she could have been rubbing her nose pretty hard against the sides of the tub to "scratch/scrub" the mucus off her nose/mouth. It would be a stretch, but it's possible. Check the walls of the tub for a dried on whitish substance. That could give you a better idea. When mine had an RI she smeared that nasty slime all over the walls of her enclosure.

If it's not that, I'm not sure how to help. A mouth injury will have to wait for the vet unless someone more experienced can offer up a little more insight.

Best of luck!

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Ok thank you :)
like i said idk why people said it but i rmbr people saying raise the temps. Now i will be able to give proper advice lol!

Even if your vet doesn't specialze in Pythonidae, he can take an X-ray. Any structural damage should be visible to both of you. That is as good a place as any to start isolating or eliminating the cause of her distress. Good Luck!

I plan on isolating her from the rest of my snakes after I get done with her appointment. I can raise her temps better in a different room.

Do they have to put the snake under to get an xray?
And will it have any impact on her building eggs?

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Originally Posted by mues155

Do they have to put the snake under to get an xray?
And will it have any impact on her building eggs?

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With the new snap-shot X-ray technology, they shouldn't have to put her under.

I don't know enough about low dose X-ray exposure to be able to answer your second question, but you should certainly ask the vet about that and let him know she's building a clutch. If the vet focuses the X-ray on her head area, the eggs may not even get in the beam.

I hope they don't have to put her under...shes going to be stressed and weak as it is.
I'm just worried about her. My appointment is soon I'll post an update afterwords.

They don't put them under it isn't a complex procedure. I also would not expect the eggs to be an issue. My concern is if the snake has a jaw issue and had no RI before 2 days is very fast for RI to show symptoms. I would be concerned that the respiratory issue is a related to a physical trauma. Hence the advise to get the xray. I hope there is nothing too serious.

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Well heres the update on my female. We had xrays done and her jaw bones look just fine which is good. But she has stomatitis...so mouth rot..yay. Its still pretty early on at least. The vet said her lungs sound ok, not bad at least. She looks like crap but hopefully we caught it in time. I now know why she was escaping. She has been rubbing her face because of the MR and popped her lid off her tub. Poor girl. Well hopefully its early enough because she didnt start showing visual signs until a few days ago. And it must have been the rubbing that she got her lip caught up.
Well I have injections of baytril to give her every other day...poor girl sure didnt like the shot (who would?)
So now I wait and hope she pulls through. I just worry because she should be building eggs too. I hope her body can handle it. Her appetite has been very strong, I cant remember the last time she refused a meal ever. So I know she can go a while without food. The last time she had a meal was last wednesday.

My other issue is she was just paired with my male last week too...is mouth rot contagious? I have her quarantined now away from my other BPs.
I upped her ambiant temp and I have some pedialyte in her water. I hope she pulls through.

Yes it's contagious. So keep an eye in him to make sure he dosnt have it.
I would say of she has eggs they should be ok. I don't know for sure, but I would not think it would cause any issues.