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  • 02-07-2012, 11:10 AM
    MasonC2K
    PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    http://www.sacbee.com/2012/02/06/424...#disqus_thread

    Are you freakin' kidding me!?

    There's so much BS in that article I don't know where to start. I wish I could comment on that site but it won't let me sign up. LOL!
  • 02-07-2012, 11:19 AM
    pigfat
    That was ridiculous...it made me a little mad. I hate it when people who have no knowledge on anything pretend they are experts....and not gonna lie, when I saw Peta I thought of Peta from The Hunger Games :D
  • 02-07-2012, 12:54 PM
    hurricaNe
    She has no credibility. No proof to back up what she says. Obviously never bothered to come into contact with a snake either. Either way, im not surprised.
  • 02-07-2012, 01:10 PM
    HighVoltageRoyals
    Thanks for posting this! Although it is a really horrible article, it's nice to read all the comments completely debunking every aspect of it. Call me an optimist but I think anyone who reads that article with half a brain will know which side is telling the truth.

    Everyone knows PETA is nuts; I mean, they tried to make tofu out of George Clooney's sweat for Pete's sake! Clooney was quoted as saying [in response to PETA's plans] "As a mammal, I'm offended."

    Here's a link to the article if anyone wants a good laugh: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_174240.html
  • 02-07-2012, 01:20 PM
    AmysAnimals
    Of course she is a writer for PETA!!! ugh. PETA is so ridiculous, though I agree with her statement, "Who 'NEEDS' a pet anaconda?" I know she also said boas and pythons, but those are okay in my eyes. Anacondas are massive snakes and I honestly don't see the point in owning one. I have always loved snakes but for me owning a snake is a learning experience. It's not just a "pet" it's education. The more I learn about snakes the more I want to share my knowledge and inform others of them.

    She really has no clue what she is talking about. If the ban is only banning transportation from one state to another I honestly don't see the point of the ban because people can still own them and do what they want with them. May be harder to get this way but people WILL still have them. Unless they make a species illegal to OWN the ban to me has little effect. Here in California, ferrets are illegal to own because the state is afraid people will release them like they do cats and they will just breed and breed and destroy wildlife. I personally think that's crazy. Ferrets should not be illegal. And snakes should be able to be transported where they need to go without fuss.

    I dislike PETA. =/ I dislike laws that make amazing animals illegal.
  • 02-07-2012, 01:23 PM
    AmysAnimals
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HighVoltageRoyals View Post
    Everyone knows PETA is nuts; I mean, they tried to make tofu out of George Clooney's sweat for Pete's sake! Clooney was quoted as saying [in response to PETA's plans] "As a mammal, I'm offended."

    Here's a link to the article if anyone wants a good laugh: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_174240.html


    That's disgusting, but thanks for sharing! lol
  • 02-07-2012, 01:46 PM
    HighVoltageRoyals
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AmysAnimals View Post
    PETA is so ridiculous, though I agree with her statement, "Who 'NEEDS' a pet anaconda?" I know she also said boas and pythons, but those are okay in my eyes. Anacondas are massive snakes and I honestly don't see the point in owning one.

    Well, no one NEEDS a pet anaconda but no one NEEDS Ball Pythons either. It's a want and a luxury to have these animals as pets (if not every animal except maybe service animals).

    It's a matter of preference and just because I personally don't want an anaconda doesn't mean I'm going to frown upon the guy down the street that does. It's that kind of thinking that's hurting this industry.
  • 02-07-2012, 01:54 PM
    DooLittle
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    Wow. That, is amazing. That makes me mad too. Obviously she is a half wit that just doesn't have a clue. Perhaps she has never enjoyed a pet. Sad for her. Just a shame though, that other ignorant people will read it, and get wrong ideas planted in their heads about snakes.
  • 02-07-2012, 03:01 PM
    mattb
    Some people just need to be more informed than she is. I have a few suggestions.

    1. I think they need to change their name from PETA to PITA because they are a pain in all of ours.

    And

    2. If they want to ban all of these things then I think we should all follow them around with cameras and take pics when they decide to take a bite of that hamburger or chicken or that pork chop.

    I mean if they want to go all out about living things then they shouldn't even be eating fruits and veggies I mean those are living things too right? Next thing you know they won't want us to cut grass because it will be in pain from the lawn mower. When will it end. Sorry I rambled a bit.
  • 02-07-2012, 03:17 PM
    snake lab
    These things shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone. Peta has just as many views on their agenda as we have on ours. It is rediculous but they have always done thisand will always do it. The have so much support and so much money that we will never get rid of them. Attacking them with anger will do nothin but give them ammo. They may not sound like they know anyhing but they kow exactly what they are doing. They are putting a spin on the subject so their supporters will follow. Its no different then the nra and its opposition. All we can do is fight through education, awarness and political lobbying. We will never win a money driven pissing match with these idiots.
  • 02-07-2012, 03:19 PM
    HighVoltageRoyals
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snake lab View Post
    These things shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone. Peta has just as many views on their agenda as we have on ours. It is rediculous but they have always done thisand will always do it. The have so much support and so much money that we will never get rid of them. Attacking them with anger will do nothin but give them ammo. They may not sound like they know anyhing but they kow exactly what they are doing. They are putting a spin on the subject so their supporters will follow. Its no different then the nra and its opposition. All we can do is fight through education, awarness and political lobbying. We will never win a money driven pissing match with these idiots.

    Well said Snake Lab!
  • 02-07-2012, 03:48 PM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snake lab View Post
    These things shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone. Peta has just as many views on their agenda as we have on ours. It is rediculous but they have always done thisand will always do it. The have so much support and so much money that we will never get rid of them. Attacking them with anger will do nothin but give them ammo. They may not sound like they know anyhing but they kow exactly what they are doing. They are putting a spin on the subject so their supporters will follow. Its no different then the nra and its opposition. All we can do is fight through education, awarness and political lobbying. We will never win a money driven pissing match with these idiots.

    "Reptiles do not want to be your friend. They want to be left alone."

    That's odd.
    Somebody should tell my male pastel who goes into full throttle sulking and bargain basic histrionics if I don't pay attention to him when I walk by his house...or the BCI who makes me wrestle him back into his condo because he doesn't 'want to be a snake again' after a few hours of watching TV with the humans.
  • 02-07-2012, 04:09 PM
    AmysAnimals
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HighVoltageRoyals View Post
    Well, no one NEEDS a pet anaconda but no one NEEDS Ball Pythons either. It's a want and a luxury to have these animals as pets (if not every animal except maybe service animals).

    It's a matter of preference and just because I personally don't want an anaconda doesn't mean I'm going to frown upon the guy down the street that does. It's that kind of thinking that's hurting this industry.

    I was just quoting what was said in the article. I know no one "needs" a pet. I don't care if my neighbor has an anaconda..I don't care what kind of animal they own. I just would never own one. =) I am not frowning upon owning anacondas. It's just my personal preference not to own one.
  • 02-07-2012, 04:14 PM
    HighVoltageRoyals
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AmysAnimals View Post
    I was just quoting what was said in the article. I know no one "needs" a pet. I don't care if my neighbor has an anaconda..I don't care what kind of animal they own. I just would never own one. =) I am not frowning upon owning anacondas. It's just my personal preference not to own one.

    Alright, I guess I just read your post the wrong way. This is the part that kind of threw me:

    "I agree with her statement, "Who 'NEEDS' a pet anaconda?" I know she also said boas and pythons, but those are okay in my eyes. Anacondas are massive snakes and I honestly don't see the point in owning one."

    But as long as no flack is given I'm okay! :D
  • 02-07-2012, 04:23 PM
    Kinra
    My three favorite parts of the article were:
    1.) They made this massive jump from large constrictors to venomous (but hey at least they got venomous right instead of calling them poisonous), it's not a very logical jump since a bite from my boa MAY require a band aid but a bite from a viper is going to need a trip to the hospital. They are two different cans of worms and shouldn't be lumped together, though neither is a public safety risk. :mad:
    2.) I LOVE how they say we ship reptiles in boxes labeled "auto parts" and they almost always arrive dead. That actually made me laugh. Why would anyone bother shipping a reptile if there was a 99% chance it would arrive dead? :rolleyes:
    3.) I think the best part about the article was the insulation that captivity = instant suffering and neglect. I'll admit that my tubs may be dirty for a day sometimes because I have too much going on, but I would be happy to show anyone my collection at any time. I take pride in their care and do my best by them. :rage:

    Hopefully anyone with half a brain who reads that will be able to clearly see how biased and untrue the article is. :(
  • 02-07-2012, 04:23 PM
    Lonnie
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    I feel sorry for Florida about the problem there. What good is any type of legislation like this going to do for any place other than Florida? I don't understand how anyone could think that a Federal "Ban" would solve the problem. These incredible animals can't survive in the wild in all US states.So what is there to prove? Take the money that is being wasted by trying to force this nationwide and develop other means of control in FL. As far as PETA goes,the entire organization reminds me of the nosey old lady that lives in everyone's neighborhood that is never satisfied with anything and has to put her 2 cents in on everything. I'm not denying there is cause for concern but let's be realistic about this. And as far as Ms.Jennifer goes,well,she seems like one of those people who would beat the war drums for any cause before doing any research.:snake:
  • 02-07-2012, 06:01 PM
    AmysAnimals
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HighVoltageRoyals View Post
    Alright, I guess I just read your post the wrong way. This is the part that kind of threw me:

    "I agree with her statement, "Who 'NEEDS' a pet anaconda?" I know she also said boas and pythons, but those are okay in my eyes. Anacondas are massive snakes and I honestly don't see the point in owning one."

    But as long as no flack is given I'm okay! :D

    Yeah I guess I could have been more clear with that statement! I could easily see how you read it wrong.

    But yeah I personally wouldn't own one and I don't care who ones one so long as they are being taken care of properly! =D
  • 02-07-2012, 06:15 PM
    zeion97
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HighVoltageRoyals View Post
    Well, no one NEEDS a pet anaconda but no one NEEDS Ball Pythons either. It's a want and a luxury to have these animals as pets (if not every animal except maybe service animals).

    It's a matter of preference and just because I personally don't want an anaconda doesn't mean I'm going to frown upon the guy down the street that does. It's that kind of thinking that's hurting this industry.

    THIS!! We need more people like this within the community...

    How can one who owns a exotic say "Well this guy doesn't need a Anaconda, but I have a Burmese" It makes NO SENSE One of the reasons we keep failing is because we throw each other under the bus to protect our own selfs.. Well, when everyone else is thrown under the bus who'g going to protect you?

    (this was NOT a personal attack to who you quoted.. It is a statement...
  • 02-07-2012, 06:19 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Well, this is just par for the course for People Exploiting Tortured Animals. It's what they do.
  • 02-08-2012, 02:06 AM
    minguss
    Yeah, oh they are calling out USARK to, just look at the revenue difference.
    USARK revenue for 2011: $312 Thousand
    HSUS revenue for 2011: $148.7 Million
    PETA revenue for 2010 (couldn't find 2011 number): $35.9 Million

    With such a pathetic budget USARK is still making a difference. Now if we can just get the all the reptile breeder/hobbyist in support with a small donations every month we could really stop The AR madness.
  • 02-08-2012, 02:34 AM
    Domepiece
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    WOW! what a load of crap. Humans do more damage to ecosystems than snakes, lets ban them, I know a few that should go first... I cant believe that someone can be so biased and stigmatizing of an entire group of people for the wrong doing of a few of the bad ones. Braaavo PETA, way to make yourselves look like a bunch of stereotyping biased bigots. I thought PETA stands for "People for the Ethical treatment of ANIMALS", not "People for the Ethical treatment of Mammals".:colbert:
  • 02-08-2012, 02:45 AM
    Domepiece
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    IF PETA is so concerned about animals then why are they doing this...
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cele...dquarters.html
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...DG11DC9BK1.DTL
    Sounds like PETA's more interested in making profits and being in the media than actually protecting animals.
  • 02-08-2012, 02:54 AM
    Domepiece
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    The PETA organization is a hypocrytical idiocratic fundamentalist group who beleive their hearts are in the right place but obviously have their heads in another place.
  • 02-08-2012, 03:28 AM
    Domepiece
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    Before anyone reams me, I DO know that PETA does good things for animals, I just dont think it is right for them to attack others that care for aniamals as well. It just seems counter productive to me. For someone to label a whole community and stigmatize entire species of animals for the actions of a few irresponsible and stupid snake owners who neglect their snakes, let them loose into the wild, and get them for the wrong reasons, is just absurd. Just saying.
  • 02-08-2012, 05:38 AM
    drama x
    Re: PETA! Makes me so mad right now!
    When ISN'T Peta pissing somebody off? Their a bunch of wack jobs.
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