They take our snakes and now this?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46270895...s-food-stamps/

Oh no no no....not happening Florida.

What crawled up their butt latley? Throwing out all these ridiculis bills that are just plain stupid. And now their telling us what we can and cant purchase or ingest?

Wow 2012 is off to a sucky start....:weirdface

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46270895...s-food-stamps/

Oh no no no....not happening Florida.

What crawled up their butt latley? Throwing out all these ridiculis bills that are just plain stupid. And now their telling us what we can and cant purchase or ingest?

Wow 2012 is off to a sucky start....:weirdface

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I see nothing wrong with that. If I, as a taxpayer, are paying for someone elses food bill (i.e. they're on welfare), I'd rather not have them buying soda and twinkies with it...

I agree with sho220... I dont live in FL so this has no bearing on me though. But if my taxes are paying for their welfare checks, I dont think people should be allowed to spend it in strip clubs or casinos. Thats completely wrong and frankly kinda pisses me off. ESPECIALLY the people who dont really need to be on welfare. They really just ruin everything for the good people who actually do need to be on it.
The part with the food is kinda iffy but when it comes down to it I would have to agree with it too. The only flaw is that the price difference between junk food and healthy food must be considered. If a mother can feed her family for 1 week with healthy food OR 2 weeks with unhealthy food she's probably gunna go with buying the unhealthy food...

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I agree with sho220... I dont live in FL so this has no bearing on me though. But if my taxes are paying for their welfare checks, I dont think people should be allowed to spend it in strip clubs or casinos. Thats completely wrong and frankly kinda pisses me off. ESPECIALLY the people who dont really need to be on welfare. They really just ruin everything for the good people who actually do need to be on it.
The part with the food is kinda iffy but when it comes down to it I would have to agree with it too. The only flaw is that the price difference between junk food and healthy food must be considered. If a mother can feed her family for 1 week with healthy food OR 2 weeks with unhealthy food she's probably gunna go with buying the unhealthy food...

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It should be run the same as WIC...you get vouchers for food that is actually nutritious, and there's no debit card, so you can't get cash. Seems simple enough???

Then again, this is Florida we're talking about...here's the real solution... :D

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/me...gs-florida.gif

It's not the low income person that is using those cards at the strip clubs, casinos, and tropical islands.

It's the drug dealer that gives them 50 cents on the dollar for their card.

Illinois is about to ban boas and pythons.

Anyone know more about IL ban?

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It's not the low income person that is using those cards at the strip clubs, casinos, and tropical islands.

It's the drug dealer that gives them 50 cents on the dollar for their card.

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True...get rid of the cards and that problem goes away...doubt if you can get a lap dance with a grocery store food voucher...

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Illinois is about to ban boas and pythons.

Anyone know more about IL ban?

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May want to try in the threads started about IL python ban...

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...light=illinois

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...light=illinois

Not much info there, but it beats derailing a thread about welfare in Florida...:D

I agree with this. If you're on food stamps, you should be using it to buy real food. Not junk...And this is coming from someone who grew up on food stamps.

Man you do not want to get my GF started on this. She gets hugely angry when we're in line waiting to check out at the grocery store behind someone with food stamps/WIC/welfare, because usually that person has a giant cart full of food, gripes to the cashier about what they can and can't buy, and judging by their clothing (way more expensive than ours), accessories (iPhone 4s or some expensive Android phone, hair that obviously cost a lot of money) and jewelry (giant diamonds, etc), are financially better off than we are. (We do not qualify and just do our best to get by.)

I'm definitely with the people upthread.

First off, if you can't afford to feed and house kids, don't have them. Birth control is NOT rocket science, and it's a lot cheaper than kids are. That, or if you're of a religious persuasion that thinks every sperm is sacred, you could always refrain from sex (oh noes!).

Second, if I'm paying for your reproductive irresponsibilities to eat, it had better be healthy food. I see no problem with the idea of restricting what can be bought with those funds.

Hm, judging by what I just typed, you don't want to get *me* started on it either, and I toned it down somewhat from where I started. :)

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Man you do not want to get my GF started on this. She gets hugely angry when we're in line waiting to check out at the grocery store behind someone with food stamps/WIC/welfare, because usually that person has a giant cart full of food, gripes to the cashier about what they can and can't buy, and judging by their clothing (way more expensive than ours), accessories (iPhone 4s or some expensive Android phone, hair that obviously cost a lot of money) and jewelry (giant diamonds, etc), are financially better off than we are. (We do not qualify and just do our best to get by.)

I'm definitely with the people upthread.

First off, if you can't afford to feed and house kids, don't have them. Birth control is NOT rocket science, and it's a lot cheaper than kids are. That, or if you're of a religious persuasion that thinks every sperm is sacred, you could always refrain from sex (oh noes!).

Second, if I'm paying for your reproductive irresponsibilities to eat, it had better be healthy food. I see no problem with the idea of restricting what can be bought with those funds.

Hm, judging by what I just typed, you don't want to get *me* started on it either, and I toned it down somewhat from where I started. :)

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Couldn't have said it better.... IL is one of the worst states.. Like I said on another state, I'm one of 4 workers who isn't on it...I actually got denied. Apparently $300 is enough to live off a month. BUT people who make $1,500+ can get $500 to $600 (yes.. ALOT lie, but you would think they would do SOME checking.)

It's about time they do something about those EBT cards. Here they're are countless stories of purchases of lottery and booze. Check out this story

http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/...-scam-20111213

I actually support this.

My sister lives right next to the local food bank and you should see some of the cars pulling in there! How is it you can afford the newest car but not be able to buy food? And why is it that most the people I know who has EBT and WIC still manage to have plenty of pot and still not manage to pay rent? I an going to get myself in trouble, I can easily go on forever on this but I better not...

I agree also. They should restrict food stamps for foods like on the WIC program.

If you want cookies, you can still bake cookies with staples you buy like sugar, flour, butter, etc. It's cheaper to bake cookies than buy them generally. No one NEEDS Twinkies and snack cakes, chips, soda and candy. Sorry, but you don't NEED those items. If you're on welfare, get food stamps, you shouldn't be buying luxary goods.

If people can't buy the luxary goods, maybe there'd be more incentive to get off the welfare programs and on their own two feet.

I understand some folks fall on hard times, and need assistance. I'm all for folks getting assistance they need. But again, no one needs luxary goods like candy and chips.

i don't think they should be telling people what food to buy...however if you're going to buy food, it shouldn't be junk food. However again...junk food is usually cheaper than nutritious food. Kind of sucks either way.

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I agree also. They should restrict food stamps for foods like on the WIC program.

If you want cookies, you can still bake cookies with staples you buy like sugar, flour, butter, etc. It's cheaper to bake cookies than buy them generally. No one NEEDS Twinkies and snack cakes, chips, soda and candy. Sorry, but you don't NEED those items. If you're on welfare, get food stamps, you shouldn't be buying luxary goods.

If people can't buy the luxary goods, maybe there'd be more incentive to get off the welfare programs and on their own two feet.

I understand some folks fall on hard times, and need assistance. I'm all for folks getting assistance they need. But again, no one needs luxary goods like candy and chips.

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X2 from the Gourmet Chef. ;)

Times are hard, and these "standards" are complete bs.... I know a person who drives a Ferrari BUT still gets $900 in food stamps. You can lie your BUT off to get through them though, it will bite you in the ARSE when you get caught though...

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i don't think they should be telling people what food to buy...however if you're going to buy food, it shouldn't be junk food. However again...junk food is usually cheaper than nutritious food. Kind of sucks either way.

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So what you and the OP say is it's okay for them to you OUR tax money to buy junk? We give money away in this country and it's BS..... The ways we give out food stamps and such need to be completely re-written.....



I'll go as far to give you this... It's good to have a snack every now and then...BUT on Food Stamps, you should buy food... Not gas station deli's, not soda.... The reason why most of these foods are on the list is because it gives the "grocery" stores more money.

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X2 from the Gourmet Chef. ;)

Times are hard, and these "standards" are complete bs.... I know a person who drives a Ferrari BUT still gets $900 in food stamps. You can lie your BUT off to get through them though, it will bite you in the ARSE when you get caught though...

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Wait how would this be possible? Also the person who said the people in front of them in the line at the grocery store how is it that rich people get food stamps?
I understand the whole process except how you actually get the stamps... I assumed there was some sort od screening process for people who get them...?

When I was in college in Delaware, I worked at a Wawa and couldn't believe the stuff people were allowed to buy with food stamps...made me wonder what the point of them were.

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However again...junk food is usually cheaper than nutritious food.

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Sometimes, but with smart budgeting and eating in proper proportions, balanced meals that are fairly healthy are not difficult to put together. You're not going to get prime cuts of meat or seafood on food stamps, but you shouldn't be buying garbage either, IMO.

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Wait how would this be possible? Also the person who said the people in front of them in the line at the grocery store how is it that rich people get food stamps?
I understand the whole process except how you actually get the stamps... I assumed there was some sort od screening process for people who get them...?

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...In IL... NOPE.. MY boss gets 35-40 hours a week and her husband makes $4,000 a month.. They have 3 kids.. Like most families they lie and say they get her job to support there family.. If you want to live off my money IL is the way to go... :rage:

And The Ferrari guy, he tries to play down it's his "friends" car but after putting in complaints concerning him for MONTHS they are finally investigatory him. In the end, I doubt they'll do a thing...

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...In IL... NOPE.. MY boss gets 35-40 hours a week and her husband makes $4,000 a month.. They have 3 kids.. Like most families they lie and say they get her job to support there family.. If you want to live off my money IL is the way to go... :rage:

And The Ferrari guy, he tries to play down it's his "friends" car but after putting in complaints concerning him for MONTHS they are finally investigatory him. In the end, I doubt they'll do a thing...

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My apologies but i still dont understand the first part. She works making money, her husband works making money but they still get the stamps? Does the govt not look at their bank accts or what jobs they have? Or is one of them getting paid under the table?

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My apologies but i still dont understand the first part. She works making money, her husband works making money but they still get the stamps? Does the govt not look at their bank accts or what jobs they have? Or is one of them getting paid under the table?

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They only see what you give them... They get HUNDREDS of request a day... They just skim your info.. It's hard to grasp until you get involved in it.. And IL is one of the few states that just gives away money, most other states actually do check you by your social and do background checks.. If that happened IL's foodstamp usage would drop to maybe...65% tops? rough guess.. I'm not saying everyone on it doesn't need it.. Hell I'd love to have it.. BUT in the end, some people do need it, others don't.. It more or less comes down to do you have a lazy rep that files for you..

Most grocery stores are equipped to distinguish between approved items and non approved items. This would not be an undo burden. I am pretty well for this. I think their should be restrictions on what food is purchased and where its purchased. Food can cost 2 to 3 times as much at a gas station vs a real grocery store. I also think a few non food items should be allowed on the list. Such as soap, tooth paste, feminin products, razors, deodorant and other basic hygiene products. Eating is important but being clean promotes health and increases your chance of getting a job or a better job.

Thanks I get it now. Yea thats total BS that u can write down whatever you want and get the money. No wonder our countries in so much debt....
It reminds me of a fairly recent story from where I live in CT. After we lost power for 1-2weeks in the fall after a bad storm many people lost their whole fridge/freezer full of food. So the state setup a movement to give food stamps to the less fortunate that didnt have money to replace all the food they lost in the storm. Well there was a few state cops who decided to try and take advantage of it and get the food stamps! Just sickening really; needless to say Im glad they were caught an faced consequences for their actions!

We had a similiar program that helped replace a 'freezer of food' after an extensive power outage due to a hurricane. If you lost significant amount of food, you could apply. I don't quite understand how a state cop isn't entitled to replace their lost food, if others are entitled.

Our program didn't say you had to be "poor" or on welfare to get assistance in this case, maybe your program did.

Honestly, I don't think there should be a food stamps program. They could do rations that they hand out or something, like in Cuba. That would be a lot better to me, than paying for then to go buy whatever. Trusting people some times gets you no where, especially when it comes to free money.

If I had my own country...Lol.

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i don't think they should be telling people what food to buy...however if you're going to buy food, it shouldn't be junk food. However again...junk food is usually cheaper than nutritious food. Kind of sucks either way.

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I get that America is the land of the free and the home of the brave and people feel encroached upon when the government starts telling them what they can spend their money on and what they can't but this is different.

If you don't want the government to tell you what you can and can't buy with the money they are giving you then I suggest getting your act together and buying your own sweets.

Just think of it like this: when you go on welfare or receive food stamps, it's like you're a little kid again getting allowance from your parents. The parents (in this case,the government) should know exactly what that kid spends his or her money on because it is daddy and mommy's money until the kid can grow up and find a job that supports their need to buy junk food, lotto tickets and hookers.

Sorry if I offended anyone with that last paragraph but usually reality is a hard pill to swallow. As a tax payer, I would be disgusted beyond reason if I saw someone buy a cart load of crap and pay for it with MY MONEY, because in reality, that's what taxes are (it's "our" money but I'm sure you get the point).

And how is buying a cart load of crap food going to benefit the person in the long run? Unhealthy food usually leads to unhealthy body which leads to missed work because of increased sickness rate which means less money for them. It's a vicious circle that should be stopped. If you don't have extra money to buy your kid an ice cream cone after you use your food stamps on healthy food for them, then don't buy it! Simple as that!

I agree. I don't got to school 14 credit hours and work 30 hours a week just to let some punk buy his kid a Twinkie. I don't even like Twinkies, do why would I want someone else to be able to spend my tax contribution on it?

I know the whole drop in the ocean analogy when it comes to taxes, but honestly it still does feel like MY money that I WORKED for. :/