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Ny first BP Terarrium
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is that a ceramic heater in the tank. if it is i say bad very bad
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yes this is a ceramic heater with 100watt! why is very very bad?
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well your ball can and most likely will touch it they should never be able to come in contact with the heat souce. even if you don't think it will get to it it will.
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Originally Posted by gncz73
well your ball can and most likely will touch it they should never be able to come in contact with the heat souce. even if you don't think it will get to it it will.
i will never put the wood near the ceramic heat. bp can walk on the galss and touch it? i have head pad to stay here.
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they find ways to get to the heat. if i was you i would just get a light fixture with a shroud (sp) and but it on top after you cut a hole out for it and but a screen over the hole just to play it safe. i have seen some nasty burns on balls and is your heat tape controled by a thermastat (sp). if not it should be even though it is on the out side.
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"bp can walk on the galss and touch it? "
No, you wanna make sure that they never touch the glass on the bottom specially if you have an UTH or heat tape of any sort, that's bad news allover the place .
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oh yeah do you have a locking lid
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i just bought this one http://www.livefoods.co.uk/product_i...roducts_id=519
and this one
http://www.livefoods.co.uk/product_i...roducts_id=522
i also have head pad in the cool area. hot area= 32-35 and cool 26-29 right ? on day
expect the ceramic heat. the cage is good for ball python? is 80x50x50cm 52 USGALLONS
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that looks good just test it out before you place the snake in there now do you have a thermastat to control your heat mat
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yes i have 500watt thermostat that yu can place 2 socket on this.
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from wht i was reading you have two heat pads? if that is true the thermastat will only control one unless you have them both set the same temps. and what type of bedding are you useing.
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Originally Posted by gncz73
from wht i was reading you have two heat pads? if that is true the thermastat will only control one unless you have them both set the same temps. and what type of bedding are you useing.
no i don;t have 2 head pads. i have 1 ceramic heater(100w) and 1 head pad(28x43cm) both is controled via thermostat. i put an extra in my ceramic heater. i plug a ''dimmer'' that allow you to control the watt between 0-100 watt! this is very usefull!
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The setup looks pretty good, its also a very good thing that you are taking the time to test the cage out before snake is even in there, that will save you and the snake a lot of stress. The only things i saw that are possible no no's were the heat emitter being in the cage but peope have alreayd said that. And the second is that you need to make sure that you have some kind of substrate in there, even if its only paper towels, thats what i use and it works fine. I also use cypress bark when im in the mood to make the cage look really nice, but somtimes that makes cleaning the cage a little more of a process. But anyway take care of that heat emitter being in the cage, throw down some substrate, properly manage y0ur heat sources and you will be just fine!
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Originally Posted by DrEwTiMe
GNCZ73-
The setup looks pretty good, its also a very good thing that you are taking the time to test the cage out before snake is even in there, that will save you and the snake a lot of stress. The only things i saw that are possible no no's were the heat emitter being in the cage but peope have alreayd said that. And the second is that you need to make sure that you have some kind of substrate in there, even if its only paper towels, thats what i use and it works fine. I also use cypress bark when im in the mood to make the cage look really nice, but somtimes that makes cleaning the cage a little more of a process. But anyway take care of that heat emitter being in the cage, throw down some substrate, properly manage y0ur heat sources and you will be just fine!
this is Ozone's thread not mind Drew
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I'm not a fan of that setup at all.
1. Not enough floorspace. Ball Pythons are terrestrial and spend 99.99% of their time hiding or finding a dark place to hide. They won't benefit from cage height at all.
2. Ceramic heat emitter. These will dry out your cage and it is going to be next to impossible to give them the 60-70% humidity they need to properly shed. I had my first ball pythons when I was 12 and knew nothing about them. I had a ceramic heat emitter w/a glass tank. My snake NEVER had a good shed and he basically ended up going off feed and died suddenly one day. Probably due to stress. Poor guy, I get mad every time I think about it these days.
I recommed that if you don't want to put the $$ for plastic enclosure or a budget rubbermaid setup that some people RAVE about on here, I suggest you get a 20L size tank with a screen lid and a 50watt infared bulb kept on 24/7. This basic setup will house a ball python very comfortably until it reaches about 30-35" or so. You may have to battle humidity a little, but at least you will have a setup that works w/o the need for any of those rheostats or thermostats you bought.
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i agree with brad, brad i'm going to have to get you over and see my happy bp's in the tubs! lol the bare essentials (plastic tub, heat tape, thermostat and a water bowl) is all you need. i like the natural setups and they look great i just don't want to clean and sterilize all that stuff. just my thoughts.
that che needs to be removed the snake can reach it and get burned!
vaughn
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Re: Ny first BP Terarrium
1 am using this substrates http://www.exo-terra.com/products/forest_bark_i.html
2 i don't want to have light in my cage! what type of heat you recommend me? expect head pad!
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Re: Ny first BP Terarrium
with the height of the cage your useing you will need something along the route you have. but if you cut the height down to about 6-8 inch in height and give it more floor space you wouldn't need a ch or a light just a bigger heat pad. thats why alot of us use rubbermaids tubs.
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Re: Ny first BP Terarrium
LMAO sorry GNCZ73 you were the last post i looked at so my stupid brain just threw your name in there without even thinking.
OZONE that post was for you !!! LOL
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Re: Ny first BP Terarrium
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Originally Posted by Ozone
Hey all
! am goiong to bought my first ball python in 1,5 weeks and my BP cage is litle uncomplete . now i start testing my temperatures. i have take some pics from my digi cam an i upload the pics to tell me ur commends about my cage
i build this cage alone.. :lol:
c ya
first off the lights, heat and such should be out side the enclosure.
i would advise to use epoxy to coat wood, and build burrows from either cement, fiberglass epoxy, or vivarium mortar.
i would also suggest two layer so substrate, one for the plants that is soil based and the top layer of hardpack clay based dirt.
i would also suggest that you include vent fans in the sides of the cage to blow air across the grasss. I would close the top off with a nice hood. our cages start off as basis cages from http://www.cagesbydesign.com measured
at the right size, back and sides wood, then coated and a hood to match. simple.
as for the plants, there are lot out there but we chose ours from a nursery that focuses on grassess and such, a few are from Ghana, then we add bacteria to help with waste management, and salmonella. lots of light!!!!
three 10,000k lumen lights for our tanks or the grass won't make it.
our cages are either wood; 1/4" bich plywood, Cages By Design, PVC with sliding glass front doors and 1/2" steal screen top for the lights but never a fish tank. you want front opening, and sides of solid material. holds heat better and won't spook the snakes if you're reaching in.
heck just read our book out in june 06.
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Re: Ny first BP Terarrium
thats alright Drew i just thought i would point thats out.
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