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Quick albino question.

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  • 02-03-2012, 06:43 PM
    Blandini
    Quick albino question.
    A ball python albino male + female = all albinos?
  • 02-03-2012, 06:45 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Only if they are both Visual (Homozygous) albinos as the albino morph is recessive
  • 02-03-2012, 06:48 PM
    Blandini
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    Only if they are both Visual (Homozygous) albinos as the albino morph is recessive

    Yes, If I reproduce a het albino male vs a het albino female and I take 2 of the albino babys (not hets or normals) male and female will produce ALL albinos right?
  • 02-03-2012, 06:49 PM
    zeion97
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    Only if they are both Visual (Homozygous) albinos as the albino morph is recessive

    Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png

    And more details? IS one albino the other het...? eh.
  • 02-03-2012, 06:52 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Have you been to this website?

    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

    This website has a list of every ball python morph, and a "calculator" to determine the odds for what ever breeding that you can think of.
  • 02-03-2012, 06:53 PM
    Blandini
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zeion97 View Post
    Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png

    And more details? IS one albino the other het...? eh.

    Where I find normal balls on the morph wizard?

    Or what would I get from a het male albino vs a normal female?
  • 02-03-2012, 06:53 PM
    zeion97
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blandini View Post
    Yes, If I reproduce a het albino male vs a het albino female and I take 2 of the albino babys (not hets or normals) male and female will produce ALL albinos right?

    So..You're going to take two babies that are albino? I'm sorry i might be reading in to it to much... This is me right now... :confused:

    BUT this is always a good place to go for a QUICK question of "what will I get?"

    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/
  • 02-03-2012, 06:54 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blandini View Post
    Where I find normal balls on the morph wizard?

    Or what would I get from a het male albino vs a normal female?

    you leave the section blank for normal (its in the directions at the top of the page :D )
  • 02-03-2012, 06:54 PM
    zeion97
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blandini View Post
    Where I find normal balls on the morph wizard?

    Or what would I get from a het male albino vs a normal female?

    HET to a normal would be a hit or miss... your best bet is two hets, or a het to a albino or just plain and simple! Two albino's :)

    Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png
  • 02-03-2012, 06:55 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blandini View Post
    Where I find normal balls on the morph wizard?

    Or what would I get from a het male albino vs a normal female?

    Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png
  • 02-03-2012, 07:07 PM
    zeion97
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png

    I beat you to it this time. :) lol.
  • 02-03-2012, 07:09 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zeion97 View Post
    I beat you to it this time. :) lol.

    yeah, I was posting somewhere else first lol
  • 02-03-2012, 08:17 PM
    Domepiece
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blandini View Post
    Yes, If I reproduce a het albino male vs a het albino female and I take 2 of the albino babys (not hets or normals) male and female will produce ALL albinos right?

    Assuming that you get an albino female and an albino male out of the clutch and breed them yes they will produce all albino offspring. However from a het to het albino breeding statistically only 1 out of 4 eggs will be albino. Its pretty presumptuous that you will in fact get a male and female albino out of a het to het breeding, def possible in reality but not statistically. You will find that things never go as we want them to. I wish you the best of luck and hope you do hit the odds and get your male and female albino though. Also doing things this way for albinos will take you years, i suggest getting an albino male they are only a couple hundred dollars and breeding him to a het female. Also I have heard of problems with breeding albinos to albinos especially when line breeding.
  • 02-03-2012, 09:36 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Domepiece View Post
    Also I have heard of problems with breeding albinos to albinos especially when line breeding.

    Just random hear say or is there some links to this information?
  • 02-03-2012, 10:57 PM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    Just random hear say or is there some links to this information?

    I have bred Albino x Albino Balls a couple times with no issues...I also know a bunch of others that have done this with no issues.

    On a side note I also breed Albino x Albino Retics with no problems.
  • 02-03-2012, 11:16 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    I personally wouldn't put a het to a normal. If you want to put a het to a non-het you should breed it to a codom or dom.
  • 02-03-2012, 11:44 PM
    Domepiece
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    Just random hear say or is there some links to this information?

    Yes just random hearsay. I heard it on this site actually. I believe what I heard was they are sometimes born without eyes and other eye issues or something to that affect, I'll see if I can find it.
  • 02-03-2012, 11:55 PM
    Domepiece
    Re: Quick albino question.
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...lbino+problems
    I think this is the one I was refering to. There are more I will try to find them.
  • 02-03-2012, 11:58 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Domepiece View Post
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...lbino+problems
    I think this is the one I was refering to. There are more I will try to find them.

    There is only like 1 guy who thought that there was a issue and everyone else said that their wasn't. excessive inbreeding will cause defects in any morph, I think that this might be the cause of what you are saying, and it just happened to be 2 albinos.
  • 02-04-2012, 01:19 AM
    Domepiece
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    There is only like 1 guy who thought that there was a issue and everyone else said that their wasn't. excessive inbreeding will cause defects in any morph, I think that this might be the cause of what you are saying, and it just happened to be 2 albinos.

    Yes, I can read, and yes, excessive inbreeding can cause defects in any animal, that kind of goes without saying dont you think. I wasnt saying that I buy into it or anything I was just throwing it out there since I did hear it. I was just making "small talk" if you will.
  • 02-04-2012, 01:29 AM
    snake lab
    I have never had any issues breeding albino x albino. Never heard of any either. Keep in mind the albino was pretty much the first power morph that started tgis crazy thing we call morph breeding. If their were issues we would have heard alot about it. The only albinos ive had issues with are caramel albinos. Its known with them and tail kinkers just like the spider and the wobbles. These issues have been known but like i said i personally dont know of any issues with regular albinos
  • 02-04-2012, 03:19 AM
    Domepiece
    Re: Quick albino question.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snake lab View Post
    I have never had any issues breeding albino x albino. Never heard of any either. Keep in mind the albino was pretty much the first power morph that started tgis crazy thing we call morph breeding. If their were issues we would have heard alot about it. The only albinos ive had issues with are caramel albinos. Its known with them and tail kinkers just like the spider and the wobbles. These issues have been known but like i said i personally dont know of any issues with regular albinos

    This is very true. I just remembered seeing that on this sight before, its the only time I had ever heard anything like it. It may have been numerous factors for the other person such as incubation issues, bad genetics, or excessive inbreeding. Who knows.
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