Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 546

1 members and 545 guests
Most users ever online was 47,180, 07-16-2025 at 05:30 PM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,916
Threads: 249,118
Posts: 2,572,200
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, Wilson1885

Rate this Pastel (1-10)

Printable View

  • 01-30-2012, 09:55 AM
    pigfat
    Rate this Pastel (1-10)
  • 01-30-2012, 10:16 AM
    ChrisS
    Re: Rate this Pastel (1-10)
    Well it all depends on a few factors, at least to me.
    1 how old is the snake
    2 what is the weight of the snake
    3 when did it last shed/ is it going into a shed
    To me he looks young and not very large so I would put him at a 5-6 range if he has recently shed. But if he is going into a shed it's hard to say how bright he truly is. So he could be a 7-8.
    He has nice blushing on his back, and good yellow along the sides, flames are decent. But he looks like he is starting to brown out at a very small size and his pattern isn't busy enough for me.
    Regardless he is a beautiful heathy looking snake.
  • 01-30-2012, 10:54 AM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: Rate this Pastel (1-10)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChrisS View Post
    Well it all depends on a few factors, at least to me.
    1 how old is the snake
    2 what is the weight of the snake
    3 when did it last shed/ is it going into a shed
    To me he looks young and not very large so I would put him at a 5-6 range if he has recently shed. But if he is going into a shed it's hard to say how bright he truly is. So he could be a 7-8.
    He has nice blushing on his back, and good yellow along the sides, flames are decent. But he looks like he is starting to brown out at a very small size and his pattern isn't busy enough for me.
    Regardless he is a beautiful heathy looking snake.

    x2 I would say that this is a good pastel, at least a 6.
  • 01-30-2012, 11:08 AM
    ballpythonluvr
    Re: Rate this Pastel (1-10)
    We can all sit here and rate this snake but in the end all that matters is what you really think of the animal. I like the way the pastel looks, not the best example, but then who am I????
  • 01-30-2012, 11:52 AM
    Mike41793
    Well to me he looks to be about 400ish grams? I would say 6/10. Maybe a 7 if you get a pic of him right after he sheds. But as long as you like him who cares.
  • 01-30-2012, 11:53 AM
    pigfat
    I love him regardless! I'm just debating on breeding him or just keeping him as a non-breeder. He is about 135 grams. He shed a little over 3 weeks ago so he SHOULD be somewhat close to shedding again. He has gotten a little dull lately.
  • 01-30-2012, 12:07 PM
    angllady2
    I'm gonna call him a solid 6.5.

    Yes he has a brown out line awful young, BUT he also has a fantastic amount of blushing, and that is only going to get better as he ages. Your pictures have a slight yellowish cast to them, so he might not be as yellow as he appears, but that's okay. Certain pastels actually start out rough and get really nice, and I suspect he's one of those.

    My own male Koroku wasn't much to look at when I got him. Over 1000 grams and really brown with minimal blushing, but somehow I ended up with him anyway. I never intended to breed him, as he wasn't that great. Then something strange happened. At around 1500 grams he started lightening up and getting a lot of blushing. Now, at 1800 grams he's far from being yellow, and he's still not the most spectacular of pastels, but he's nice enough he's breeding for me this year.

    Gale
  • 01-30-2012, 01:42 PM
    Royal Hijinx
    I will say a 5. Way too much brown at that size for my tastes. But, decent blushing and a great pattern.
  • 01-30-2012, 02:38 PM
    DemmBalls
    Re: Rate this Pastel (1-10)
    I would give him a 4. Definitely more brown than I like to see and the head is pretty dark. Nice snake...Just not what I personally look for in a pastel.
  • 01-30-2012, 07:20 PM
    ball-nut
    As a few have said, for his size he's browned quite a bit so on that note id say a 5. However, you say you cannot decide to use him in breeding or a pet, on the basis of straight pastel, yh he'd probably throw out some standard pastels.
    The amount of contrast, vividness of color and amount of blushing would make me look for a fire female with nice blushing and reduced pattern. A firefly from that pairing might actually be above average imo.

    Sent from my phone, to the Internet, to your screen.
  • 01-30-2012, 07:39 PM
    Royal Hijinx
    Honestly I think for breeding, the goal should be the highest quality examples as you can get to strengthen blood lines. It is kind of hard with this one since he has such great pattern, but sub-par coloration.
  • 01-30-2012, 07:43 PM
    Domepiece
    Re: Rate this Pastel (1-10)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ballpythonluvr View Post
    we can all sit here and rate this snake but in the end all that matters is what you really think of the animal. I like the way the pastel looks, not the best example, but then who am i????

    x2
  • 01-30-2012, 07:46 PM
    Simple Man
    Personally I wouldn't breed that into my projects. Ultimately it is your choice but he is very dark for a 135g pastel.

    Regards,

    B
  • 01-30-2012, 07:49 PM
    JohnNJ
    Interesting thread. Does anyone have a photo of a solid 10 pastel and the reasons why it's a ten?
  • 01-30-2012, 08:25 PM
    Simple Man
    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1.../cPICT0105.jpg

    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1.../cPICT0101.jpg

    I don't know about 10 because I really look for a few certain traits. It's hard to apply numbers or ratings to animals. This is one of my girls. There are better animals out there but she meets my quality standards. High yellow sides, blushing, light colored head, and a great pattern. The whole point of a pastel is to keep that yellow color and introduce that into combos. All pastels will brown a little but they should look really good until they start to hit sexual maturation. That's the point where I've noticed most pastels turn brown in varying degrees. A small pastel that is orange or brown is going to really get ugly as it ages. A lot of combos are ugly because of the pastel used in them. It helps to use a high quality pastel or you are going to produce subpar looking combo animals IMO.

    Regards,

    B
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1