I love "Leucy" **PICS**

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my second favorite morph! of course my 1st favorite is the blue eyed lucy

it's naked! :D

One day I'm going to get to see one of those in person.

WOW.. is that a snow python? ..or like a piebald with little/no natural markings left?

how much does something like this fellow/shela sell for????

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Originally Posted by vkahri

WOW.. is that a snow python? ..or like a piebald with little/no natural markings left?

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No, it is a leucisitc ball python.

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Originally Posted by vkahri

how much does something like this fellow/shela sell for????

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I'm almost 100% positive that it is too priceless to sell. ;)

You know the old saying ... "If you have to ask the price ..." :P

-adam

giggity giggity gig-i-ty!

Okay you experts out there don't go laffing at my questions now :imslow: but looking at the lovely snake I wondered if being that it's a total absence of the more normal darker colors of Ball Pythons, does it react different to things, or need special care as far as heat since it's so radicially different than the "norm"? Do these Leucy's hatch quite white and then change a bit as they age? Having never seen a Leucy or a Pied (my gosh there's a country song in there I think! ):cowboy:


The white on a Leucy seems very different than the white of a Pied. Why? Do snakes like this exist in the wild or are they purely something man has designed (kind of think they'd get nailed by a predator standing out like that) Could a snake like that get sunburned (okay now no laffing LOL - I have an enquiring mind).

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Okay you experts out there don't go laffing at my questions now :imslow: but looking at the lovely snake I wondered if being that it's a total absence of the more normal darker colors of Ball Pythons, does it react different to things, or need special care as far as heat since it's so radicially different than the "norm"?

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Nope, with ambient air temps, color and heat have nothing to do with each other.

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Do these Leucy's hatch quite white and then change a bit as they age?

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None of the solid white blue eye’d lucy’s have darkened with age (there isn't really anything to darken), but the blue eyed lucy’s with the stripes and eye smudges do seem to be changing colors in my opinion. Can't comment on the black eyed lucy’s ... I've only seen one hatchling from the English line in person and one other black eye’d animal but it was an adult.

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The white on a Leucy seems very different than the white of a Pied. Why?

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Yes and no. The white seems to be the same, but on the English line lucy's, the scalation seemed different to me. More grainy maybe? Don't know why.

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Do snakes like this exist in the wild

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Black eye'd lucy’s have been pulled from the wild, but the blue eyed snakes are all man made as far as I know. Someone may be sitting on something. :twisted:

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(kind of think they'd get nailed by a predator standing out like that)

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Actually, because ball pythons are so secretive in general and hide most of the day, many visual morphs are pulled out of the wild as adults that you wouldn't think would make it. Probably has a lot to do with why we see so much variation in ball pythons.

-adam

Wow. Is it the picture, or do I see a little bit of color on the head and along the dorsal line? Is that only present in this one line of leucistics?

Another question.. I've seen pictures of the pearl ball python, and it looks pearlescent.. nearly metallic, is this only the photo as well? How do they differ in appearence to leucys?

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how much does something like this fellow/shela sell for????

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I think last year around october, I saw a leucy priced at $100,000. My memory could be wrong though.

If you read Ralph Davis's birthing records on his blue eyed leucy he mentions in there how much he paid for a black eyed leucy and that was several years ago.

That is a nice Ivory pictured above. If you think that it is a Blackeyed Leucistic, wait until it produces young, there won't be any Fireballs in the clutch - but I would like to bet that it produces all Yellow Bellies!
Compare the heads of the one above with the blackeyed Leucy male and female produced by the Fireballs; completely different in colour. Eric Davies

If KLG says it's a leucy, it's a leucy.

Yes, but Eric is also quite the authority on black-eyed lucies, being the first - and as far as I know, the only - person in the world to actually hatch one & also prove out the fireball gene.

I guess we'll know for sure on our WC girl when eggs start hatching. :)

K~

Thanks for the mention Kara. I meant no disrespect to either you or Kevin. as you should know I hold Kevin in the highest regard for his contribution to to the herp world, and the work he has had to put in developing the BP morphs.
I may well be wrong, but the pictured snake does not look like a true leucistic to me. It appears to have a 'sooty' coloration on it's head and spine, and the white is 'off white' - more of a very good Ivory.
I wish NERD the very best of luck proving this snake out - either way, it s a stunner!! Regards Eric

Thanks Eric! We're pretty excited to see what you'll have going this season with the black-eyed leucies & hets! Please keep us updated. :D

K~