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  • 01-25-2012, 02:19 PM
    shawn388
    rhode island to join the snake ban
    file:///C:/blog/archives/793-Rhode-Island-moves-to-ban-Pythons,-Boas-and-more.html looks like so every state is going to be doing this
  • 01-25-2012, 02:39 PM
    tcutting
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shawn388 View Post
    file:///C:/blog/archives/793-Rhode-Island-moves-to-ban-Pythons,-Boas-and-more.html looks like so every state is going to be doing this

    link fail. File:///C: points to local computer.
  • 01-25-2012, 02:56 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tcutting View Post
    link fail. File:///C: points to local computer.

    http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/BillTex...xt12/S2033.pdf

    The text of the actual bill.
  • 01-25-2012, 03:07 PM
    tcutting
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post

    many thanks.

    Well looks like RI is off the list of states I will ever live in. Upon seeing this i began doing more googling of reptile laws in my state and it seems in Mass it is illegal to own GTPs and a few others....

    "Snakes: Emerald Tree Boa, Green Tree Python. The Reticulated and African Pythons, all Anacondas; Black Rat Snake and venomous snakes require a permit because they are considered potentially dangerous."

    Permit requirements: "Permits are not issued for keeping these species as pets. Permits in this category are issued only for certain scientific, educational, commercial, or other specific reasons. . Applicants must be able to demonstrate that they are actively engaged in the activity for which they have applied for or received a permit. (See 321 CMR 2.12) The only exception is for a prohibited animal for which there is proof it was in the owner's possession within Massachusetts before July 1, 1980. This exemption is granted only for the life of that particular animal."

    source
  • 01-25-2012, 03:14 PM
    Kinra
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Why are ETB, GTP and black rat snakes on that list. :confused::confused::confused:
  • 01-25-2012, 03:16 PM
    tcutting
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kinra View Post
    Why are ETB, GTP and black rat snakes on that list. :confused::confused::confused:

    Only guess about the Rat snake is that it is a native to the area. GTBs and ETBs I have no idea.
  • 01-25-2012, 03:29 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tcutting View Post

    many thanks.

    Well looks like RI is off the list of states I will ever live in. Upon seeing this i began doing more googling of reptile laws in my state and it seems in Mass it is illegal to own GTPs and a few others....

    "Snakes: Emerald Tree Boa, Green Tree Python. The Reticulated and African Pythons, all Anacondas; Black Rat Snake and venomous snakes require a permit because they are considered potentially dangerous."

    Permit requirements: "Permits are not issued for keeping these species as pets. Permits in this category are issued only for certain scientific, educational, commercial, or other specific reasons. . Applicants must be able to demonstrate that they are actively engaged in the activity for which they have applied for or received a permit. (See 321 CMR 2.12) The only exception is for a prohibited animal for which there is proof it was in the owner's possession within Massachusetts before July 1, 1980. This exemption is granted only for the life of that particular animal."

    source

    Wait until you get into town/city ordinances!
  • 01-25-2012, 03:38 PM
    tcutting
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    Wait until you get into town/city ordinances!

    I am certain when i do that I will want to move to one of the few place left where they are legal or move to South East Asia where you just take a walk in the jungle and hope for the best.
  • 01-25-2012, 04:05 PM
    sgath92
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    Wait until you get into town/city ordinances!

    qft I know of literally dozens of municipalities that have banned "all constrictor snakes" thinking that phrase only means the big species.
  • 01-25-2012, 07:07 PM
    snake lab
    Wow same deal here in virginia. This shouldnt come as a surprise though. Monkey see monkey do. They still have to pass so we have our work cut out for us. And thanks skip for the link
  • 01-25-2012, 07:13 PM
    evan385
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    If they keep doing this i'll probably just leave this country with it's stupid government throwing our rights out the window.
  • 02-02-2012, 04:26 AM
    apple2
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Same! With the SOPA crap and the snake bans, I'd be better off moving to England. Too bad I don't have the money to go :(
  • 02-02-2012, 10:32 AM
    snake lab
    Yea that will solve it. Move to another country and give up. Thats the problem. Everyone wants to fold and give up. What happened to fighting for what you believe in. Look the only way to get a point across when it comes to things like this is to stand up and fight for your rights. The opposition would love for you to give up and run. Can you imagine whete this country would be if everyone did that. If you really care about this then stand up and do something about it. Fight, lobby, get on your internet box and fire off emails to politicians, rally, support the cause. Or you can just give up and fold. Your choice. I for one wont give up without a fight.
  • 02-02-2012, 10:35 AM
    MasonC2K
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Just move to AL or GA. Only venomous and local animals are prohibited.
  • 02-02-2012, 10:52 AM
    tcutting
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MasonC2K View Post
    Just move to AL or GA. Only venomous and local animals are prohibited.

    from my understanding PA allows hots without a permit and snakes are pretty much completely unrestricted. other than local species.
  • 02-02-2012, 11:03 AM
    tcutting
  • 02-02-2012, 11:30 AM
    akjadlnfkjfdkladf
    if they're banning atbs and gtbs as pets for being "dangerous", why haven't they banned pit-bulls and rottweilers?
  • 02-02-2012, 11:48 AM
    snake lab
    Cause its alot harder to ban a domesticated pet.
  • 02-02-2012, 12:07 PM
    satomi325
    A lot of domestic animals are illegal around the country...so they'll probably get to it eventually.......

    I.E. ferrets in California, pits in Denver, etc etc.

    Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk
  • 02-02-2012, 12:08 PM
    MrLang
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    'Carnivores'

    I LOL'd
  • 02-02-2012, 04:32 PM
    kitedemon
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post

    Skip, Um does this say what I think it does??


    (c) Notwithstanding any provisions of subsections (a) or (b), no person shall be permitted
    to own any of the following: alligator(s), crocodile(s), python(s), and boa constrictor(s).
    13
    Ownership shall be punishable by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000).
    14


    Wow! Please check that I am correct before freaking out. I am not sure I am reading this correctly.
  • 02-02-2012, 05:50 PM
    zeion97
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    Skip, Um does this say what I think it does??


    (c) Notwithstanding any provisions of subsections (a) or (b), no person shall be permitted
    to own any of the following: alligator(s), crocodile(s), python(s), and boa constrictor(s).
    13
    Ownership shall be punishable by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000).
    14


    Wow! Please check that I am correct before freaking out. I am not sure I am reading this correctly.

    You're correct.... THIS is me right now... :confused: my reason... WHY?!
  • 02-02-2012, 05:59 PM
    kitedemon
    I want to say something supportive or useful but i just can't seem to find anything more than a dumbfounded silence.
  • 02-02-2012, 06:06 PM
    snake lab
    We should ban ignorant politicians
  • 02-02-2012, 06:10 PM
    zeion97
    Re: rhode island to join the snake ban
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snake lab View Post
    We should ban ignorant politicians

    Why stop there? I know big "charity" that takes in $100 Million PLUS in donations that should go with them. :)

    Does anyone have a update on this bill though?
  • 02-02-2012, 08:33 PM
    satomi325
    Easy solution: Rename all of the snakes

    Authority: Hello there, I hear you have a Python and Boa Constricter in your home. They are illegal.

    Keeper: Nope. Sorry. Just me, a Curling Ball , and a Vermin Squeezer! :D
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