Starting a Co-Dom project, need advice.

So I'm looking to put together a little co-dom project and I'm starting with around $1000. I'm thinking of getting a super pastel male and the rest females.

Is it better to get a multi-gene female for more money?

I was thinking of just getting single-gene females which vary in price around $200-$250:
.1 Pinstripe
.1 Spider
.1 Cinnamon

Instead of getting 3 separate snakes, are there any advantgages to getting a single animal, like a bumblebee, spinner, etc? Thanks

I would try to get a Mojave or Lesser/Butter in the mix.

I would go with a bumblebee male and a fire, spider and pinstripe female. That should be right at $1000 and give you tons of great combos.

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Originally Posted by jinx667

I would try to get a Mojave or Lesser/Butter in the mix.

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Thanks for the replies, I actually already have a 1.1 Mojave project that I'm hoping produces a BEL this year.

Never thought of a bumblebee male idea, I guess I wanted a super pastel male to eliminate any chance of normals. But that does open the door to more combos.

I would use the Mojave male then and pick up some 2 gene females. Most bang for the buck.

what i would do

male: pewter
F1: pinstripe
F2: spider
F3: yellowbelly

I would take the $1,000, buy 4 females with it and than wait a year-year and a half to buy a male at all(save over that time to buy your male)...then re-evaluate the situation, your likes/dislikes, etc...by that time, some more desirable single gene males and double gene animals will be in the $400-500 range. Even though you'll be spending a little more than you'd like, this way will give you a ton more options and you won't be sitting on a breedable male for a year waiting for the females to be ready to breed.

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Originally Posted by RobNJ

I would take the $1,000, buy 4 females with it and than wait a year-year and a half to buy a male at all(save over that time to buy your male)...then re-evaluate the situation, your likes/dislikes, etc...by that time, some more desirable single gene males and double gene animals will be in the $400-500 range. Even though you'll be spending a little more than you'd like, this way will give you a ton more options and you won't be sitting on a breedable male for a year waiting for the females to be ready to breed.

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This would probably be the most practical thing to do. Now I guess for the next question, with around $1000, is it better to get 4 single gene females, or maybe 2 double gene females (bumblebees, lemon blasts, pewters, etc)?

Thanks for the replies everyone

Who says you need one or the other? Maybe keep an eye out for a double gene female you want and then get a few single gene females.

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Originally Posted by RobNJ

I would take the $1,000, buy 4 females with it and than wait a year-year and a half to buy a male at all(save over that time to buy your male)...then re-evaluate the situation, your likes/dislikes, etc...by that time, some more desirable single gene males and double gene animals will be in the $400-500 range. Even though you'll be spending a little more than you'd like, this way will give you a ton more options and you won't be sitting on a breedable male for a year waiting for the females to be ready to breed.

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This is almost the route I'm currently taking :D. Except I had a budget that was a little bigger so I went and got some sweet females that will always be good in a collection :P. I'm really happy with the females I got and I don't PLAN on selling them ever (even if I get a multi-gene) because I like having my favorite morph bases and combos :D. we'll see though! anything can happen in this hobby :gj:

Well, if you already have a breedable Mojave male, I'd take my $1000 and invest in 1 or 2 breeding or near breeding size single gene females. You can get yellowbellies for a pretty fair price, maybe a cinnamon or even a pinstripe.

Mojave-bellies, Kingpins and Savannahs all command good prices. One season of double gene offspring will give you enough to invest in that double gene male and another female or two.

Gale

Have you bred before? I not I'd go with a single multi gene female ivory super pastel or bel, that way you don't get normals. If you have bred before I'd go with multiple single gene females. One clutch could turn into 3 4 5 or more new snakes you have to care for before selling. And 4 clutches can turn into 16 20 or even more snakes to care for. Going from 4 to 24+ snakes to care for can become over whelming. Good luck which ever way you choose to go.:D

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Originally Posted by ChrisS

Have you bred before? I not I'd go with a single multi gene female ivory super pastel or bel, that way you don't get normals. If you have bred before I'd go with multiple single gene females. One clutch could turn into 3 4 5 or more new snakes you have to care for before selling. And 4 clutches can turn into 16 20 or even more snakes to care for. Going from 4 to 24+ snakes to care for can become over whelming. Good luck which ever way you choose to go.:D

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Actually you have a good point. I have bred before, but I have always done so as a hobbyist. I was into the ball python scene back in 2004-2006 then sold my collection when my daughter was born in 2006 due to time and space constraints. The reason I got back into it was because my son, who is turning 10, asked me if he can have one as a pet (he never knew I had a small collection when he was 4). So I got him a Mojave male, because I knew back then one of my dream snakes was the BEL. So since then I've picked up a Mojave female and 2011 Pied Female (another dream snake back then). So now I'm thinking, it may be more worthwhile to have less clutches with more variation. It's just hard not to get hooked, as most of you know!

If you already have a pied female why not pickup a male pied and like 2-3 100% het pied females and produce a bunch of pieds...? You said theyre one of your dream snakes.

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If you already have a pied female why not pickup a male pied and like 2-3 100% het pied females and produce a bunch of pieds...? You said theyre one of your dream snakes.

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It was one of my dream snakes, which is why I bought her, that doesnt mean I want to produce a bunch of them. I simply wanted to own one.

Just curious do you know any combos you want to work towards?

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Originally Posted by ChrisS

Just curious do you know any combos you want to work towards?

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There are so many combos that make my head spin, but I wanted to keep it basic, mainly because I feel they would be easier to sell and more affordable for people starting out.

I like Bumble Bees and Pewters most, Spinners/Blasts have to grow on me.

Thanks again for the replies everyone

Well just made the first purchase of this project today, a female spinner, hoping the weather cooperates within the next couple weeks to clear shipping. I figured a female spinner would have the "pattern" genes, and maybe a pewter male as a candidate.