Python Setup Idea

On the other thread I posted about my python getting loose and eventually dying. for those who didnt see it click the link to read up.http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...possibly-dying I posted about me not being able to keep him in the house so he's in the garage. I can get one and keep him in a tub I'm just confused on how that works

More of a description of your enclosure or rack you intend on using will help everyone help you.

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Originally Posted by VEXER19

More of a description of your enclosure or rack you intend on using will help everyone help you.

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I really don't intend on using a rack since I don't have the snake yet and it will only be 1 snake. I just intend on using a tub to house it for now.

What type of tub? And how is it letting your bp get loose? Does it not have a secure top?

This is how a tub set up works.

You get a tub (if you aren't getting a rack then it also needs a good tight fitting lid)

Use a soldering iron, drill, or anything else that can poke holes in the tub. These holes let air in and help to regulate humidity.

You will need a UTH that covers approxametly 1/3 of the bottom of the tub. This will create the hot side. The UTH must be regulated by a thermostat. If money is tight you can get a hydrofarm thermostat for $30 but there are far better thermostats like the Herpstat.

The thermostat probe needs to be attached to the UTH or inside the tub. Regardless it needs to be secured so it can't move. I use hot glue for this. Just don't put any on the probe itself. Also do not use aluminum tape as it can mess with the probes readings.

Next you put your substrate in the tub, I would sugest newspaper or something similar.

You will need 2 hides. 1 that goes over the UTH and the other goes on the cool side.

You place a water bowel in the middle.

You should also have a thermometer/hydrometer in the tub. You can get this one at Wall*Mart for $12:

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...nt/photo-3.jpg

For more information check out this post, it is a step by step with pictures:

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...Basics...*DUW*

Just a quick note I really don't recomend using a tub if you will still be keeping a snake in your garage. I really don't think any set up will work but UTH's don't really effect air temperature so if it gets cold you will have problems.

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Originally Posted by VEXER19

What type of tub? And how is it letting your bp get loose? Does it not have a secure top?

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when he got loose I rushed and put the top on wrong I noticed when I went back outside.

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Originally Posted by SidReptiles

when he got loose I rushed and put the top on wrong I noticed when I went back outside.

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Hold on I'm confused do you already have another snake? And it already got loose?

To help secure a tub with a lid you can use luggage straps.

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Originally Posted by SidReptiles

when he got loose I rushed and put the top on wrong I noticed when I went back outside.

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Well I would just do what serpentmerchant said and take the extra 10 seconds next time to care for your animal properly. Don't mean to sound harsh but it seems that your past problems were just human error.

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

Hold on I'm confused do you already have another snake? And it already got loose?

To help secure a tub with a lid you can use luggage straps.

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No I haven't gotten another snake. I was telling him about my last one.

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Originally Posted by VEXER19

Well I would just do what serpentmerchant said and take the extra 10 seconds next time to care for your animal properly. Don't mean to sound harsh but it seems that your past problems were just human error.

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Your right it was my fault, next time I know to double check to make sure it's secure

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Originally Posted by SidReptiles

No I haven't gotten another snake. I was telling him about my last one.

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Ok. If you set up your tub the way I said or follow the step by step instructions from the link I posted and you will be keeping you tub inside the house you should have a healthy snake

I don't think he has the option of keeping he snake inside. Ambient temps tend to worry me in that situation.

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Originally Posted by VEXER19

I don't think he has the option of keeping he snake inside. Ambient temps tend to worry me in that situation.

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If he can't then he either needs to get a space heater to heat the garage or not get another snake.

He is from so cal so it doesn't really get cold that close to the desert. That's about the only positive but I agree with you. If you can't take care of an animal properly then don't own it.

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Originally Posted by VEXER19

He is from so cal so it doesn't really get cold that close to the desert. That's about the only positive but I agree with you. If you can't take care of an animal properly then don't own it.

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It does get cold in socal. It's 55 degrees in LA right now.
But yes, I agree that unless the animal will receive proper care, the OP should wait on getting a snake.

But it sounds like he's making an effort to fix his husbandry and get his animal(s) into the house.

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

This is how a tub set up works.

You get a tub (if you aren't getting a rack then it also needs a good tight fitting lid)

Use a soldering iron, drill, or anything else that can poke holes in the tub. These holes let air in and help to regulate humidity.

You will need a UTH that covers approxametly 1/3 of the bottom of the tub. This will create the hot side. The UTH must be regulated by a thermostat. If money is tight you can get a hydrofarm thermostat for $30 but there are far better thermostats like the Herpstat.

The thermostat probe needs to be attached to the UTH or inside the tub. Regardless it needs to be secured so it can't move. I use hot glue for this. Just don't put any on the probe itself. Also do not use aluminum tape as it can mess with the probes readings.

Next you put your substrate in the tub, I would sugest newspaper or something similar.

You will need 2 hides. 1 that goes over the UTH and the other goes on the cool side.

You place a water bowel in the middle.

You should also have a thermometer/hydrometer in the tub. You can get this one at Wall*Mart for $12:

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...nt/photo-3.jpg

For more information check out this post, it is a step by step with pictures:

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...Basics...*DUW*

Just a quick note I really don't recomend using a tub if you will still be keeping a snake in your garage. I really don't think any set up will work but UTH's don't really effect air temperature so if it gets cold you will have problems.

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I have an UTH already that i never used but wouldn't that melt the tub or cause other heating problems. When I Do get another snake he will be live in the house in a tub.

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Originally Posted by SidReptiles

I have an UTH already that i never used but wouldn't that melt the tub or cause other heating problems. When I Do get another snake he will be live in the house in a tub.

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That is why you have to use a thermostat. It will keep the UTH from overheating.

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Originally Posted by VEXER19

I don't think he has the option of keeping he snake inside. Ambient temps tend to worry me in that situation.

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I can get the snake inside the house, I just need to make sure that the house for the snake is 100% secure. My dad has a big fear of the snake getting loose inside the house.

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Originally Posted by SidReptiles

I can get the snake inside the house, I just need to make sure that the house for the snake is 100% secure. My dad has a big fear of the snake getting loose inside the house.

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Well you don't have the best track record lol but you should try and get your setup and show him how you will securely keep your snake in its tub. Use straps if you have to but inside is the best thing for your bp.

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Originally Posted by SidReptiles

I can get the snake inside the house, I just need to make sure that the house for the snake is 100% secure. My dad has a big fear of the snake getting loose inside the house.

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I agree you definitely need a thermostat. If money is an issue Amazon.com sells the Hydrofarm for under $30, no excuse. A UTH can burn the snake and/or melt the tub without being regulated. I use binder clips to secure my tubs, others use luggage straps which work well also.

You can never make a snake enclosure 100% escape proof because of human error, but with care escapes can be prevented. It is good that you can have a snake in your house now. Follow my instructions or the instructions in the link posted and you should be good to go.

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Originally Posted by satomi325

It does get cold in socal. It's 55 degrees in LA right now.
But yes, I agree that unless the animal will receive proper care, the OP should wait on getting a snake.

But it sounds like he's making an effort to fix his husbandry and get his animal(s) into the house.

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Not to be off topic..but 55 cold? Really? I'd LOVE for it to be 55 here!! It was 6 this morning when I got up...haha!

Alright...back to the subject at hand... ;)

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

You can never make a snake enclosure 100% escape proof because of human error, but with care escapes can be prevented. It is good that you can have a snake in your house now. Follow my instructions or the instructions in the link posted and you should be good to go.

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I see the uth they had on their and it's different than mines it the one you put under the tank and it sticks can I still use that one?

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Originally Posted by KatStoverReptiles

Not to be off topic..but 55 cold? Really? I'd LOVE for it to be 55 here!! It was 6 this morning when I got up...haha!

Alright...back to the subject at hand... ;)

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I mean 55 degrees is cold to keep a snake in the garage. VEXER19
was talking about how it doesn't get that cold in Socal being next to the desert.

But I personally think 55 is cool. haha. Summer in Norcal is 80-105 degrees and up till this week, it was a comfortable 65-70. >_<;;

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Originally Posted by SidReptiles

I see the uth they had on their and it's different than mines it the one you put under the tank and it sticks can I still use that one?

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Yeah. You can use that UTH. I've used some stick on heat pads, but I didn't actually removed the sticky adhesive and physically attach the pad to the tub.

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Originally Posted by SidReptiles

I see the uth they had on their and it's different than mines it the one you put under the tank and it sticks can I still use that one?

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Yes that will work. Flexwatt, heat mats, and the many different UTH's all use resistive heating elements to produce heat. The only differences are size, wattage, and packaging. As long as you cover 1/3 of the bottom of the tub and it is regulated by a thermostat it will work.