What makes a good cinnamon?

So I'm going to the pdx expo this weekend and I'm looking for a female cinnamon bp. I know that there are certain things ppl look for in specific morphs and that is what I do when buying a new morph. So my question is what do ppl look for when getting a cinnamon? Like what makes a good cinnamon bp? If anyone could include pics I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

I personally like the more reddish cinnamons with more blushing rather than the black back ones. They are one of my favorite morphs. I prefer them over black pastels bc they tend to be more reddish/brown than them. I just got a male cinny a week ago. I'll post some pics of him tmrw since he ate last nite. In the end its really whatever catches YOUR eye at the expo. Everyone will have their own preferences.

I love the reduced pattern black backs. It is all personal preference though.

I look for a more faded cinnamon colored head. Some cinnamon colored blushing in the pattern along the back. The more back pattern the better. Lots of alien heads along the sides. The alien heads should begin to connect into one long strip along the tail and usually just behind the head along the neck. The more flames and blushing coming up the sides the better as well but with a good cinny, flames are not really flames like what you'd see on a pastel or fire.. It's more like a high white side that only comes up in places.

You want a cinny that doesn't look like a black pastel. If the head is really black and the back pattern is really black with no cinnamon coloration or blushing at all, I consider it a lower quality cinny.

I want to make savannah's and super cinny does that make a difference in what i look for?

Super cinny, not so much.. Savannah's, yes.. A dark, low quality cinny is more likely to produce similar offspring. You'd want to find the lightest, highest quality cinny you could if you want to produce high quality cinnys and morphs with it.

Just look for the busiest, messiest side pattern, the thickest/longest back pattern, and the lightest or reddest, most cinnamon colored one you can find.

I like a nice clean black back and a pattern that doesn't connect to the belly at all. Bonus points if the alien heads merge into long blobs. The funkier the pattern, the better! I also like lots of white and blushing on the sides, but that isn't as important to me as the black back and funky sides. :) Color-wise, I don't care. I'm all about the pattern on cinnies. XD

This is my future Savannah making female. She has everything I wanted in a cinny. She was very bright colored as a baby, lots of belly flames, connecting pattern, and of course the awsome blush back helped.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...akes/Kuri3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...akes/Kuri6.jpg

Gale

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This is a picture of one of my cinnamons; I think she is a perfect example of the morph.

I have another cinnamon that is a complete train wreck and looks nothing like a cinnamon.

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Originally Posted by angllady2

This is my future Savannah making female. She has everything I wanted in a cinny. She was very bright colored as a baby, lots of belly flames, connecting pattern, and of course the awsome blush back helped.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...akes/Kuri3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...akes/Kuri6.jpg

Gale

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This is Exactly what i was talking about and picturing in my head. Beautiful reddish blushings rather than the black back, just my personal taste. I cannot wait to see what that snake produces for you!

Ok thanks guys also when you make savannah's i've seen ones with the all connected side pattern and ones with out it why do some have it and others don't?

I think a lot of that comes from the parents.

My theory is by breeding my blush back cinnamon female, who has a superior amount of blushing and nicely connected side patterns to my unusual mojave male, who also has a ridiculous amount of blushing on his back and a semi reduced pattern, I should produce some savannas the likes of which few people ever see.

In general, you select two parents that have YOUR ideal look, and then the babies they produce will hopefully be something special. It certainly worked for me with my vanillas. By crossing my higher quality vanilla male with the lightest normal female I've ever seen, I made some very light vanilla babies, much nicer than any I've seen in a while.

Gale

I think I prefer striped Cinnamons over the black backs. But they're both really nice! I love any cinnamon.

Here's my girl: (excuse the blurry-ness)

http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/IMG_2196.jpg

I spent 2 years looking for my perfect cinnamon. I like black back cinnies with floating pattern:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...n/DSC_0151.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...n/DSC_0152.jpg

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This season he produced three black back cinnies and three black back normals.

These are two of them.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...h/IMG_6912.jpg

Robin's cinnamon does a good job summing up exactly what I was trying to say. The perfect cinnie!

This is going to echo some here but first and foremost for me it has to be a black back with thick dorsal striping. Lots of blushing down the sides. As Robyn has kind of already pointed out, black backs tend to throw black backs. My male has produced almost all black back Cinnies and threw a black back Pewter this season that I'll get posted up here if my life will calm down enough to get my pictures up :D

Alright well I think unless I find one that wows me I'll wait....

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Originally Posted by benwallage9

Alright well I think unless I find one that wows me I'll wait....

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That's a good strategy - especially if you are like me and want to selectively breed only the best representations (in your opinion) of the morph.

I haven't built my collection quickly, but I've been extremely picky. I'm probably a year or two behind my peers who started the same time that I did, but it's paid off.

From this breeding season, I sold all but one animal that I produced, without placing a single ad, or vending at a show - because the quality of what I produced spoke for itself and was desireable to others. And I wasn't asking the "cheapest" prices either. If anything, my prices were higher than average market.

It took me 2 years to find that cinnie, it took me 2 years to find my ideal lesser, probably a year to find my ideal fire's, over a year to find my perfect albino. I'm still searching for my perfect enchi (I actually had one, but she was stolen from the breeder before she shipped, so my search continues).

My take away is - you have to care for these critters. Don't buy a mutation just to get that mutation. Buy an animal because it knocks your socks off. And be willing to pay a little more for a stellar example animal. Because if you don't, someone else will. :)

I never planned on a cinny ever guy this little dude caught my eye at the last show.
I didnt buy him on saturday and he haunted me the rest of the day AND even kept me awake that night. What do I need a cinny for?!?!?
They are not in my plans but I couldnt stop thinking about him so I had to go back sunday morning and sit by the doors waiting. The vendor saw me outside and stopped to chat and then brought him out so I wouldnt have to pay to go in.:gj:

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http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...-20-44_750.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...-21-40_335.jpg

This morph was never considered in any of my plans and still really isnt but he was something that I couldnt forget and had to have so now I have to work him into something.;)

PS these were taken when I brought him home and he has lightened up a little after a couple of sheds.