Hot Cinny's x new blackback gene I'm working with

Here are a few new shots of freshly shed Cinnamons carrying a gene I'm dinking around with. It's some type of genetic BB gene. All I know so far is that it's dominant and it lightens and improves on other morphs. It sure does make some pretty cinnamons!

The first photo is to show how drastically they improve with age.

As babies after first shed.. Here they looked slightly "different" from regular cinnys but they were not nearly as light as they are now. The female on the far right was sold early on so I don't have recent pics but I've been told she also keeps getting lighter..
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_6840.jpg

Here is male #1 now. My hold-back.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_6148.jpg

Male #1 again. My hold-back.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_1240.jpg

And male #1 hold-back again.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_4828.jpg

Female #1 hold-back.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_6081.jpg

Female #1 hold-back again.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_4496.jpg

And female hold-back again.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_2079.jpg

Here are my 1.1 holdbacks together.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_0741.jpg

Here is male #2.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_3989.jpg

Male #2 again.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_2236.jpg

Here is the Dam.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_3605.jpg

Good luck! Those guys are hot!

Looking good! Best of luck with your project.

Regards,

B

Wow thats really cool. I cant wait to see how much lighter theyll get. Be sure to post more pics eventually!

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Wow thats really cool. I cant wait to see how much lighter theyll get. Be sure to post more pics eventually!

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Thanks! What I can't wait for is for this little male to start producing plugs so I can do a breed-back. They are all just barely under 500 grams now so a late season breeding is definitely going to happen :)

I need to rule out wether or not it's co-dom and has a super, or if there may be anything else going on. The dam is from unknown origin so who knows.

I too am wondering when they will stop getting lighter. So far it's been with every single shed. It's also unusual how prominent the eye stripes are. The cinny sire is a Bradford/Cole cinny which is rather dark with very faded eye stripes. He never produced babies that looked anything like these did even in the first baby pic.

I love how male #1 kinda looks like a browned out pastel or low quality pewter they way his blushing is.

Wow, those are sweet. I love the blushed backs.

If it's genetic or not those are pretty hot Monica.
My non blush back black pastels throw blush backs, it's just part of what they do, genetic yes but it doesn't play out on the normals, just the black pastels, so it's not a separate gene as far as I can tell.
Did you get black back normals in the clutch?

Yes Jerry. The entire clutch inherited the gene. It's some sort of lightening gene with BB traits that improve with age. All the "normals" had it too.

As for my cinny sire. I'd bred him a few times prior to this and I know what kind of babies he produces. Absolutely nothing like this.

This is genetic.

Neat! I didn't expect them to grow up with so much blushing!

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

Yes Jerry. The entire clutch inherited the gene. It's some sort of lightening gene with BB traits that improve with age. All the "normals" had it too.

As for my cinny sire. I'd bred him a few times prior to this and I know what kind of babies he produces. Absolutely nothing like this.

This is genetic.

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Sweet, I was just curious, I thought my line of black pastels threw black backs too, but after 3 years of producing them I believe that mine are blush backs.

Good luck with them:gj:

absolutely beautiful babies...i'm still learning colors and variations and such. Really love their colors!

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Sweet, I was just curious, I thought my line of black pastels threw black backs too, but after 3 years of producing them I believe that mine are blush backs.

Good luck with them:gj:

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I don't honestly think it's a true BB. It looks more like a velvet or blushback when I consider what the "normals" look like and the lightening habit this gene has. The BB pattern is too light and not wide enough. I'm still doing more breedings to dink around with it though.

I just want to use them to produce a super cinny. I think the light blushing of this gene would make an awesome looking super.

you NEED to get hypo mixed in there. i love hypo black backs and with what your gene already does would be phenomenal in a black back hypo cinny......no get going with it.
adam jeffery

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Originally Posted by adamjeffery

you NEED to get hypo mixed in there. i love hypo black backs and with what your gene already does would be phenomenal in a black back hypo cinny......no get going with it.
adam jeffery

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You're not the first to say that! Lol
It seems others think the improvement on hypo would be a mindblower. Almost like pastel.

I'd be interested in adding one of those Cinnamons (preferably female) to my collection if there ever happens to be one up for grabs.

Very nice. Love the blushing :)

They are beautiful! Good luck with your project!

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

I don't honestly think it's a true BB. It looks more like a velvet or blushback when I consider what the "normals" look like and the lightening habit this gene has. The BB pattern is too light and not wide enough. I'm still doing more breedings to dink around with it though.

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Yeah I'd bet on it being a blush back, I'm not sure it can be separated from the cinny/black pastel gene though?

This is a blush back black pastel het albino I produced this year, several have nice blush backs
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...inoclutch8.jpg

This is the sire black pastel that throws some blush backs
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/SDC12719.jpg

The back tends to lighten as it ages, this is a female from the same line of black pastels, her back has lightened up considerably since she was a hatchling.
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/PICT2019.jpg