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Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
Hey does any one here have information or pictures of new morphs that were created by everyday recreational breeders who keep snakes as a hobby? I look over morph lists and most are listed as being created by big time breeders who have tons of snakes, which is great! But just wanted to see if it has ever been done where someone decided to try from home with the few snakes they had and created something new.
Also, has this ever been done? Pastel + Black Pastel + Super Cinnamon (Basically a Pastel 8-ball)
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Here is one that I produced..
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probably the ebst shot, but didn't get his silver tail in it..
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...17/Plasma4.jpg
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by R.E.P.
I dont really understand what your proving? He looks like a Pewter to me.
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Wish I had Arrnold's voice..
"It is not a Pewter.."
It does share a few similarities, as it does with others.
Trust me, all the big boys have looked at this guy.
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by R.E.P.
Wish I had Arrnold's voice..
"It is not a Pewter.."
It does share a few similarities, as it does with others.
Trust me, all the big boys have looked at this guy.
Ok..... is there a point?
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Sorry if I ruffled a feather or two. Although not sure how...
The point, as stated above, it is not a pewter.
Were you looking for more than that?
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by AKballs
Did you produce him?
Yes. I did produce him.
Have pics from pip through each shed if you are interested.
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What was the pairing?
sent from my EVO
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
I was just curious on what the pairing was?
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by jbean7916
What was the pairing?
sent from my EVO
Cinny by female that we purchased as a normal.
Here is a shot of mom
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...7/100_6183.jpg
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by AKballs
I was just curious on what the pairing was?
No problem and my sincere apologies if I offended you.
I was shooting at humor with the Arnolds voice thing.
hard to do via text.
Just posted the pairing with pic of mom.
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That is interesting. He looks very nice, I can see it would be hard to say he simply a Cinnamon. Hopefully something else proves out.
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by R.E.P.
No problem and my sincere apologies if I offended you.
I was shooting at humor with the Arnolds voice thing.
hard to do via text.
Just posted the pairing with pic of mom.
Oh no worries! I wasnt offended at all. So you said the dad was a Cinny and the mom is that "normal" looking one? very cool! Thanks for sharing!:gj:
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by AKballs
Oh no worries! I wasnt offended at all. So you said the dad was a Cinny and the mom is that "normal" looking one? very cool! Thanks for sharing!:gj:
You bet!
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by jinx667
That is interesting. He looks very nice, I can see it would be hard to say he simply a Cinnamon. Hopefully something else proves out.
Yeah, working on that and will see what happens.
Just a couple more shots..
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...a_babyshot.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...7/100_6309.jpg
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Originally Posted by R.E.P.
Looks like you may have happen upon a lightening gene similar to the one I'm currently working with. Bred to a cinnamon, I got similar results. Did your cinny offspring continue to lighten with age?
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents
Looks like you may have happen upon a lightening gene similar to the one I'm currently working with. Bred to a cinnamon, I got similar results. Did your cinny offspring continue to lighten with age?
That would be exciting to know if we might have something on the same track.
Actually 2 have. They also have some decent speckling in the patterns.
Here is a shot. The cinny on the left is from a different project. The cinny on the right is a sib to the boy above.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n..._Cinny_Sib.jpg
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Make sure you do a breed-back and put that male back to mom to see if anything else is going on. Like a super. Otherwise it's just a great way to improve on bloodlines. If it consistently produces lighter morphs like that you will have produced your own high quality line of whatever morph you put that gene into.
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This is one of mine. Cell pic so it's low quality. She's brighter now and has lavender in her back, orange and white along the sides, and the top half of her eyes are blue. My male is 500 grams now so I'm hoping he'll breed back to the dam very soon.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_5847.jpg
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by hungba
Hey does any one here have information or pictures of new morphs that were created by everyday recreational breeders who keep snakes as a hobby? I look over morph lists and most are listed as being created by big time breeders who have tons of snakes, which is great! But just wanted to see if it has ever been done where someone decided to try from home with the few snakes they had and created something new.
Also, has this ever been done? Pastel + Black Pastel + Super Cinnamon (Basically a Pastel 8-ball)
The combo you posted isn't possible, as black pastel and cinnamon are alellic. You could have a super BP/Cinny (8 ball) with pastel though.
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents
Make sure you do a breed-back and put that male back to mom to see if anything else is going on. Like a super. Otherwise it's just a great way to improve on bloodlines. If it consistently produces lighter morphs like that you will have produced your own high quality line of whatever morph you put that gene into.
Oh definately.
He is going back to her as well as a few others.
Definately apprciate the opinions and advice!
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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents
This is one of mine. Cell pic so it's low quality. She's brighter now and has lavender in her back, orange and white along the sides, and the top half of her eyes are blue. My male is 500 grams now so I'm hoping he'll breed back to the dam very soon.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_5847.jpg
Even for a low quality pic that's a sharp animal. The eyes sound awesome!
My boy actually has black eyes with a slight greyish\blue on the top.
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Yes but Brandon, you and your beautiful snakes are very well known around the Bpnet community because you keep us updated ;)
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne
Never, ever get tired of this snake. Ever. :O
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne
Those are amazing!
Think the Urban Camo is probably my favorite, but very interesed in the Sandblast genetic. Tons of potential there.
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents
Yes but Brandon, you and your beautiful snakes are very well known around the Bpnet community because you keep us updated ;)
Thank you and maybe so, but I keep a very very very modest collection of about 50-60 snakes....about 25 of which are balls. I am trying to rebuild since I'm not touring as often.
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by R.E.P.
Those are amazing!
Think the Urban Camo is probably my favorite, but very interesed in the Sandblast genetic. Tons of potential there.
Thanks! I'm hoping to prove the "urban" for the third time and the sandblast forthe second time. It could be an anomaly but both were from the same male that produced the "urbans". I'm pretty confident it will be something genetic. These all popped up from the pewter pied project. In person, the sandblast color is similar to ivory bloods.
Thanks again
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne
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Originally Posted by KatStoverReptiles
Never, ever get tired of this snake. Ever. :O
x2! I LOVE that animal!!!
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne
Thanks! I'm hoping to prove the "urban" for the third time and the sandblast forthe second time. It could be an anomaly but both were from the same male that produced the "urbans". I'm pretty confident it will be something genetic. These all popped up from the pewter pied project. In person, the sandblast color is similar to ivory bloods.
Thanks again
From what I see I would back that confidence.
Already threw my like to your FB page and will be watching for updates.
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by aceman1011
The combo you posted isn't possible, as black pastel and cinnamon are alellic. You could have a super BP/Cinny (8 ball) with pastel though.
That paring can work as black pastel x pastel is black pewter. black pewter x super cinny will yield more supers, more pewters, cinnies, black pastels,silver bullets
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by JulieInNJ
x2! I LOVE that animal!!!
x3!! I WANT!!!
ill be following :)
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
There are so many different morphs out there, that it is impossible for well known and/or big time breeders to think and breed everything. Even at base morphs, there are tons of variations that can be done. Have an idea and shoot for it.
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by hungba
Hey does any one here have information or pictures of new morphs that were created by everyday recreational breeders who keep snakes as a hobby? I look over morph lists and most are listed as being created by big time breeders who have tons of snakes, which is great! But just wanted to see if it has ever been done where someone decided to try from home with the few snakes they had and created something new.
The first Pastel Puzzles and Super Pastel Puzzles were produced from a hobbyist who bought a pair of Pastels and bred them together in hopes of producing a Super Pastel.
Tom Baker who first produced the Crystals was just doing it as a hobby, breeding a Mojave x Normal and popped out the first Crystals.
Chocolates, Cinnamons, and Yellowbellies came from pet stores. The GHI came in a batch of normal ball pythons.
These are the kind of stories and genetics that really keeps this hobby going...we would be a lot further behind if it wasn't for dinkin!
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
In 2010 I hatched some unusual babies from a dinker x pastel pairing.
I tentatively called them Daisys and Pastel Daisys (after my daughter, you've guessed it.. named Daisy..)
The whole clutch pastels and normals were different.
Here are a few pics:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...3/P1010712.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...3/P1010738.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...3/P1010661.jpg
I have kept back the whole clutch.
in 2011 I again hatched 'Daisy' Balls. Again I kept them back.
So far proving a Dominant gene.
This year 2012 the 2010 girls are not up to breeding weight so i'll be hoping to hatch 'super daisys' IF it is a com-dom gene in 2013..
More updated (2011) pic of a 2010 Pastel Daisy @ 880g:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...3/P1020262.jpg
So although i've kept snakes for many years you can just stumble across something 'different.'
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by Caz
I'd like to see pics of the pairing :)
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by BPNoobie
I'd like to see pics of the pairing :)
I posted a pic of mum dinker some time ago. The pic is not there anymore when I updated my pic host. Perhaps I'll post pics of dinker mum again when babies go up for sale in 2013...
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne
Hi I was just curios what was the pairing on all of those? Thank you
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Hmmmm. A few.
Pewter Pied female was from Pewter het Pied X Pastel het Pied.
Pewter Pied male = Pewter het Pied X Pied.
Urban Camo Super Pewter
Urban Camo Silver Bullet
Striped Super Pewter = Pewter het Pied X Pewter (original mother)
Sandblast Sterlings = Pewter het Pied X Pastel het Pied.
I produced all of the adults, and the adults of the adults with the exception of the original Pewter female. I began the project from the start in 2007 and hatched the first Pewter Pieds in 2010. Both are breeding this year and I assume the one male I let go of is doing the same.
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I kind of like the chocolate cinnamon mojave girls I hatched this year. Might have already been done I don't know.
http://snakemorphs.com/images/201112...monmojave2.jpg
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Originally Posted by RandyRemington
Hubba, hubba! Super nice
Sent from my PG41200 using Tapatalk
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by RandyRemington
Pretty cool stuff Randy! I like it!
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
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Originally Posted by KatStoverReptiles
Never, ever get tired of this snake. Ever. :O
wow! that is one bad A snake! i absolutely love it! we are working on our 1st pairing now. 5 confirmed locks. just breedin a simple lil cinny male to our normal female. but that my friend, makes a girl dream!
I speak of the urban camo. well ok, all of them! lol.
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Re: Morphs made by non-pro breeders?
I produced these Highways this year and have a smaller collection.I'm not the first but I think probably the third anyways.You never know what you will get when you pair stuff up.
Shane
http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...230013-med.JPG
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