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  • 01-06-2012, 12:56 AM
    MarkieJ
    Petco Morphs
    I've seen morphs at this Petco before, but now they actually have them labeled and priced. It's crazy to think that when I first got into this hobby, Spiders were priced at $15,000 and Pastels were a couple thousand.

    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7035/6...0b595de4_z.jpg

    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6...684aff54_z.jpg

    Maybe in another 10 years I can walk in and pick up a Banana and Champagne... :P
  • 01-06-2012, 01:00 AM
    Daybreaker
    $230 for a Spider? What a SMOKIN' deal!

    But seriously, I've never seen any morphs at my local Petco. I wonder what people think when they see the signs and they're not familiar with morphs ("What's a pastel and a spider ball python? Is that a new breed?") :P
  • 01-06-2012, 01:10 AM
    devildog_dk
    Considering a normal (and quite an ugly one at that) BCI neonate is $169 at petco I wouldn't expect much.
  • 01-06-2012, 01:19 AM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Daybreaker View Post
    $230 for a Spider? What a SMOKIN' deal!

    But seriously, I've never seen any morphs at my local Petco. I wonder what people think when they see the signs and they're not familiar with morphs ("What's a pastel and a spider ball python? Is that a new breed?") :P

    I bought a Spider male from Larry at the Havre deGrace show for $125 that made Petco's Spider ashamed to be a snake.

    My gorgeous little Pastel female cost me a whole $125 and there's nothing at my local PetCo can touch her.

    Both are growing like weeds, eating like pigs and packed full of BP personality.

    Their emaciated, nippy Pastel hatchlings [$175] have not eaten for over a month and they refuse to follow any of my advice or my offer to bring them home for a couple of weeks to get them eating.

    I don't expect to see them in the tanks much longer.

    :tears:
  • 01-06-2012, 01:28 AM
    Daybreaker
    ^ I was totally kidding about it being a "smokin' deal" :)

    I got my little Spider female for $160, and I wouldn't have passed her up for any Petco morph.
  • 01-06-2012, 01:43 AM
    Rat160
    I just flat out hate petco. Wish they would go out of business
  • 01-06-2012, 01:54 AM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Daybreaker View Post
    ^ I was totally kidding about it being a "smokin' deal" :)

    I got my little Spider female for $160, and I wouldn't have passed her up for any Petco morph.

    I know. :oops:

    I just wanted to rant about those poor starving Pastels again.

    I am so livid I can barely see straight.

    I think about them every day and how hungry they must be.

    They were 'stressing out' and 'cage climbing', weeks ago.

    Now they just lay limply around in the tank, not even bothering to hide any more.

    So livid.

    :mad:

    [you got a good buy on the Spider girl]

    :)
  • 01-06-2012, 01:57 AM
    MarkieJ
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Yes, these can be had for better prices from the good folks that actually breed them. Interestingly enough, as I was looking at the boas in the cage next to these, a kid walks up to me and says that the boas are cool, but these are so much cooler (pointing at the balls).

    Another time when I was there, a person commented to me as I was looking at the balls: "balls are cool, but they are so hard to get to eat. I had 2 that died on me already." Funny... I can't feed my guys enough.

    Inevitably these two morphs will get snapped up. Hopefully it will be by someone that knows what they're doing, because they won't get much help from the Petco staff.
  • 01-06-2012, 02:00 AM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rat160 View Post
    I just flat out hate petco. Wish they would go out of business

    But they never will.

    Their profit margin is huge.

    Consider normal BPs, alone.

    $5-10 for each snake, sold for $79.99, moving about a dozen a week.
    The fish have an even higher profit margin.
    That $9.99 Bala Shark cost them about 25 cents, tops.

    -Everything- in that place can be bought for half the price online, or less.

    I got 3 thermostats off Amazon for the price of *1* at PetCo and I'm sure the Amazon seller made a profit too, even at that those bargain prices.
  • 01-06-2012, 02:05 AM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkieJ View Post
    Yes, these can be had for better prices from the good folks that actually breed them. Interestingly enough, as I was looking at the boas in the cage next to these, a kid walks up to me and says that the boas are cool, but these are so much cooler (pointing at the balls).

    Another time when I was there, a person commented to me as I was looking at the balls: "balls are cool, but they are so hard to get to eat. I had 2 that died on me already." Funny... I can't feed my guys enough.

    Inevitably these two morphs will get snapped up. Hopefully it will be by someone that knows what they're doing, because they won't get much help from the Petco staff.


    The Pastels in my PetCo have been there nearly forever.
    Why?
    The kid who tends to them tells everyone they do not eat.

    He wants them to be properly tended to and I think he's playing devil's advocate in order to force them to do so.

    My first BP came from PetCo [$39.99] and was scrawny as a rail.
    She's more than tripled her weight since the beginning of November.

    She never met a meal she didn't love...but I got lucky with her.

    If they ever mark down those Pastels as 'adoptables', I'm buying them.
  • 01-06-2012, 02:07 AM
    apple2
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Most of the snakes there are sick anyway, they're just not treated right. My local petco doesn't supply them with hides so that people can look at them. Just wrong.
  • 01-06-2012, 02:20 AM
    devildog_dk
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Salamander View Post
    But they never will.

    Their profit margin is huge.

    Consider normal BPs, alone.

    $5-10 for each snake, sold for $79.99, moving about a dozen a week.
    The fish have an even higher profit margin.
    That $9.99 Bala Shark cost them about 25 cents, tops.

    -Everything- in that place can be bought for half the price online, or less.

    I got 3 thermostats off Amazon for the price of *1* at PetCo and I'm sure the Amazon seller made a profit too, even at that those bargain prices.

    What kind of petco is where you live? I've never even seen one of those cheap dimmers zoo med makes let alone an actual themostat at ours.

    And as for the animals themselves they've never had any morphs, only just a tank full of stressed out roaming normals with stuck shed all over them... as usual per a chain pet store.
  • 01-06-2012, 02:25 AM
    Gbusiness
    I had no idea any main chain lfs had morphs at all? It's alway's usually just normal bp's. I bought two normal's from petco just to hold me over till I got my annies. One of them was the biggest they had (had runny nose stain's), had to buy it still because it was pretty thick. Now, he she has shedd and look's great. Doesn't like f/t but will take live. The other normal has a bit of a attitude. Actually, has some nice marking's and eat's f/t rat's and mice like a champ. The same petco that I bought them from did have a rtb (I know it's not a morph. But, was supprised to see a different type of constrictor).
  • 01-06-2012, 02:35 AM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devildog_dk View Post
    What kind of petco is where you live? I've never even seen one of those cheap dimmers zoo med makes let alone an actual themostat at ours.

    And as for the animals themselves they've never had any morphs, only just a tank full of stressed out roaming normals with stuck shed all over them... as usual per a chain pet store.

    Western MD.

    They have Zilla Temperature Controllers which, while not the best thermostats on earth, sure beat nothing.

    I was using the rheostat things and they were a nightmare.

    I was checking temps every hour and hardly ever slept.

    At least these keep my temps level until I get a rack system built with FlexWatt and all the bells and whistles.

    Our PetSmart carries the ZooMed dimmers.
    [got two of those worthless things]

    We have the obligatory hysterical, shredded normals, too.

    Half log "hides", blinding overhead lights on 24/7, too low heat and humidity, no temp gradient.
    People constantly pecking on the glass.

    That's why I bought my Iggy.
    I'd just taken her out to hold her and she shot up my shoulder into my hair and wouldn't come back out.

    I had to get her out of there.

    She's just been the sweetest little snake, ever.
  • 01-06-2012, 02:38 AM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gbusiness View Post
    I had no idea any main chain lfs had morphs at all? It's alway's usually just normal bp's. I bought two normal's from petco just to hold me over till I got my annies. One of them was the biggest they had (had runny nose stain's), had to buy it still because it was pretty thick. Now, he she has shedd and look's great. Doesn't like f/t but will take live. The other normal has a bit of a attitude. Actually, has some nice marking's and eat's f/t rat's and mice like a champ. The same petco that I bought them from did have a rtb (I know it's not a morph. But, was supprised to see a different type of constrictor).

    I'll show you mine.

    http://file.walagata.com/w/the-salamander/iggy1.jpg

    Now you show me yours.

    :)
  • 01-06-2012, 02:58 AM
    decensored
    lol here in Canada we have PetSmart which is compatible to your Petco - usually morphs are labeled as "fancy ball pythons," :rofl: -
  • 01-06-2012, 03:06 AM
    Gbusiness
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Salamander View Post
    I'll show you mine.

    http://file.walagata.com/w/the-salamander/iggy1.jpg

    Now you show me yours.

    :)

    sorry I don't have photo bucket. So, if u view my profile? I put two pic's there.
  • 01-06-2012, 03:52 AM
    Gbusiness
  • 01-06-2012, 03:56 AM
    Gbusiness
  • 01-06-2012, 04:07 AM
    Gbusiness
  • 01-06-2012, 05:17 AM
    zeion97
    Re: Petco Morphs
    ...You guys need to understand. not EVERY Petco or Petsmart is bad... Just because they're chains doesn't mean anything. Yes some are HORRIBLE, and i will admit our Petco is bad, BUT still not as bad as the two local owned shops. Our Petsmart actually had a reptile keeper that BRED and KEPT Burmese and Balls, though she quit a while back our new one is a reptile owner as well. the truth behind this is we look at reptiles with a different POV then what most people do. What we see as bad is "okay" to them, but they also have to make money off there sales. (which they do by a long shot)

    Why a little rant? I can't stand coming across post were people say ALL chain stores are bad. There are bad, and there are good ones. But that is the way life will always be...

    To Petco having morphs. It's cool..Over priced as it would be, but cool. I personally hope they go to good homes though.. Every snake deserves a good home.
  • 01-06-2012, 05:21 AM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gbusiness View Post
    sorry I don't have photo bucket. So, if u view my profile? I put two pic's there.

    Wow.
    Your gorgeous snake looks almost like my Fire!

    :O
  • 01-06-2012, 05:26 AM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gbusiness View Post

    Can you get a good photo of that one's head?

    I'm intrigued.

    :)
  • 01-06-2012, 12:07 PM
    Gbusiness
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Salamander View Post
    Can you get a good photo of that one's head?

    I'm intrigued.

    :)

    I'm guessing your talking about the larger one? Sure, I'll take a few more pic's. Just for you :P!
  • 01-06-2012, 01:25 PM
    Gbusiness
    Re: Petco Morphs
  • 01-06-2012, 02:21 PM
    MSG-KB
    Not all stores are the same or the people
    Many Many years ago PETCO was very bad. Then things changed. The one I go to down do in my aream the staff present and past are the best. The know their stuff, they take care if the stock. They just do not push the sale to make sales. Most are young men and women but I have seen a big change in this store since 2005. I started going back to them in 2005 or so and what a big difference. I live in the Tumwater/Olympia area and I would stay most know what they are talking about and give you good advice where or not they make the sale.
  • 01-06-2012, 03:44 PM
    Exotic Ectotherms
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zeion97 View Post
    ...You guys need to understand. not EVERY Petco or Petsmart is bad... Just because they're chains doesn't mean anything. Yes some are HORRIBLE, and i will admit our Petco is bad, BUT still not as bad as the two local owned shops. Our Petsmart actually had a reptile keeper that BRED and KEPT Burmese and Balls, though she quit a while back our new one is a reptile owner as well. the truth behind this is we look at reptiles with a different POV then what most people do. What we see as bad is "okay" to them, but they also have to make money off there sales. (which they do by a long shot).

    It is not the people working at these particular stores that make them bad....it is the policies of the company that make them bad. Many PetSmart's and PetCo's have caring, knowledgable staff....but the fact that the company would let a ball python starve to death before offering it live prey, IMO, makes them bad...ALL of them.
  • 01-06-2012, 05:02 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    I believe PetCo sells live feeders, actually.

    There's a decent PetCo in Omaha, and one in Bellevue that's not so great (though not completely horrid on all levels). Each individual store should be treated like a separate entity.
  • 01-06-2012, 05:04 PM
    MSG-KB
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lmartelli77 View Post
    It is not the people working at these particular stores that make them bad....it is the policies of the company that make them bad. Many PetSmart's and PetCo's have caring, knowledgable staff....but the fact that the company would let a ball python starve to death before offering it live prey, IMO, makes them bad...ALL of them.

    I agree the BIG Can stores ledership are the problem, the petco and petsmarts. But the one I go to the STAFF is OUTSTANDING the store is CLEAN and the pets and well maintin and cages are clean and they care for and being feed but like everyone they have rules from the big bosses, so they have limets, but what I can see as just a outsider they see to work well together and I think this is what has made this store turn around. Plus some very outstanding people who relley care about what they do.:)
  • 01-06-2012, 07:28 PM
    Trochu
    Re: Petco Morphs
    I've bought a snake from Petland and was decently impressed. Aquarium was behind a glass wall so people couldn't really disturb the snake, it had a hide, water, was in really good shape, tank was clean etc. I know I paid to much for him, but they seemed to know their animals. They also made me sign a form stating I would return the animal to them as opposed to abandoning it.
  • 01-06-2012, 09:28 PM
    Anatopism
    The Petco I used to work at, where BF still works, is very well taken care of... because he's in charge of the reptile department.

    Some Petcos are considered "reptile magnet" stores, which is an experiment in more specific marketing. I got my enchi male from BF's Petco, and we got our male pinstripe from the store a little north. This store has sold Mojaves, Pastels, Spiders, Pinstripes, Enchis. It currently has a Biak GTP and an ARU GTP.

    The reptile supplier for Petcos in the Pacific Northwest is called California Zooligical, and they're no different from a large scale breeder such as LLL reptile or Outback. Not as much hand's on, but they do breed some of their own animals, but a vast majority of them come from local or private breeders that specialize in one area.

    Petcos in different areas across the country have different suppliers - some share suppliers with Petsmart, some don't. Some suppliers take better care of their animals, and more importantly, some stores hire more competent employees than others, but you can't really say or suggest a morph from Petco is automatically going to be worse quality.... as they ultimately come from the same types of breeders that might post on this forum.
  • 01-07-2012, 01:44 AM
    zeion97
    Re: Petco Morphs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Anatopism View Post
    The Petco I used to work at, where BF still works, is very well taken care of... because he's in charge of the reptile department.

    Some Petcos are considered "reptile magnet" stores, which is an experiment in more specific marketing. I got my enchi male from BF's Petco, and we got our male pinstripe from the store a little north. This store has sold Mojaves, Pastels, Spiders, Pinstripes, Enchis. It currently has a Biak GTP and an ARU GTP.

    The reptile supplier for Petcos in the Pacific Northwest is called California Zooligical, and they're no different from a large scale breeder such as LLL reptile or Outback. Not as much hand's on, but they do breed some of their own animals, but a vast majority of them come from local or private breeders that specialize in one area.

    Petcos in different areas across the country have different suppliers - some share suppliers with Petsmart, some don't. Some suppliers take better care of their animals, and more importantly, some stores hire more competent employees than others, but you can't really say or suggest a morph from Petco is automatically going to be worse quality.... as they ultimately come from the same types of breeders that might post on this forum.

    My point exactly. :) It gets VERY!!! annoying to read every few days "all chain stores are bad!" We can't group them all. The same goes with Wal-Marts, some of them are crap to say the least, some are awesome, it just all depends on the store and management.
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