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  • 01-03-2012, 05:07 PM
    Anatopism
    So frustrated with craigslist
    I'm about fed up with craigslist. Reposted an add 6 times today, because I refuse to let flaggers win. People flag if you post a rehoming fee, and they flag if you don't post one. Do people have nothing better to do than to sit around and get their jollies off of flagging? I'm sorry, but I'm not going to give any animal away for free, especially to some nitwit who feels so entitled as to expect everything handed to them on a silver platter.

    All hail the smart phone and unlimited data plans to be able to continuously fight this war.
  • 01-03-2012, 05:42 PM
    Homegrownscales
    Yep I gave up on cl bc of the morons. Sad really. I just couldn't deal with the absolute idiots in my area that reply or flag on cl.


    Check out what's new on my website... www.Homegrownscales.com
  • 01-03-2012, 05:56 PM
    cmack91
    Re: So frustrated with craigslist
    Same here, theres even someone posting on mine saying something along the lines of "flaggers unite", flaging what seems to be anything over a 50 dollar rehoming fee, AND anything with no fee at all, its rediculous
  • 01-03-2012, 07:41 PM
    Valentine Pirate
    Posted for the first time a couple of days ago, and haven't gotten anything quite yet, but I'm also not in a very high traffic area
  • 01-03-2012, 07:50 PM
    TheSnakeEye
    Gotta love the CLL, Craigslist Losers!!!! They get upset when you dont away the snake for dirt cheap. I understand Cl rule about no animal sales, but that is mostly aimed for dogs & cats so there are so many in rescues. But people get stupid with thaat rule and ball pythons. I hate CL.
  • 01-03-2012, 08:02 PM
    John1982
    It's really hit or miss.. I'll post the odd animal up on craigslist every now and then and get lucky with no flags. If you have several animals you're offering though I suggest finding a more suitable venue else get used to being frustrated.
  • 01-03-2012, 08:19 PM
    Anatopism
    Re: So frustrated with craigslist
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by John1982 View Post
    It's really hit or miss.. I'll post the odd animal up on craigslist every now and then and get lucky with no flags. If you have several animals you're offering though I suggest finding a more suitable venue else get used to being frustrated.


    With the ball pythons I never have problems, but any we've posted on CL have been normals or hets that aren't much anyway. The morphs we've found people for through word of mouth, and have a website up and plan on posting on kingsnake once we have some more expensive morphs available.

    This add is for a parrot... and I'm not rehoming a bird that is more intelligent than your average CL flagger for $20. People are willing to accept $20 as an acceptable price for a guinea pig rehoming fee, but insist on the exact same price for a bird that comes witha huge cage and is just as much of a commitment as a 4 year old child. Nuh uh... not going to happen.
  • 01-03-2012, 08:50 PM
    CuddlztheBP
    Personally, if they aren't willing to pay for it, then why should they think they deserve it. I am sick and tired of people who get pets because they are cute or cool and 3 months later the poor thing is dead because the mmron owner got bored or it wasnt cute enough anymore! I have seen this way to often, and it is frustrating because i live in a small apartment and cant rescue them all, the humane society is a bunch of jerkwads, and the spca wont do jack. And these poor animals are forced to live or die daily! :rage::rage::rage::rage::rage::rage::rage:
  • 01-03-2012, 09:12 PM
    spitzu
    I just checked my account and my ASF ad has been flagged and reposted over 100 times since June. :rofl:

    At first I would have to post it several times a day. Lately it will stay up for a few days at a time. Maybe they eventually figure out that you won't go away ;)
  • 01-04-2012, 02:27 PM
    Anatopism
    Good news is, every time post gets flagged and removed, I get to repost it, and it essentially stays right at the top of the CL list. consequently, I've gotten more emails than if the flaggers were to allow the post to simply drift down to the bottome :rolleyes:
  • 01-04-2012, 02:50 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Technically, you aren't supposed to sell animals on CL, no matter if it's a BP or a dog or a chimp. It's in the rules, so when you're trying to sell, you're in violation of the rules.

    That said, half the flaggers just plain don't think anyone should own pets, it's not about the price tag, it's that you are a horrible person for not being a "forever home" for some "furbaby". Some sincerely think no one should own any animal ever, the PETA/HSUS whackos. Some think anyone who breeds any animal is de ebil. Some think that anyone who owns exotic pets is a irresponsible abuser who turns their pets loose in the Everglades to murder helpless tourists by the dozens. Some think anyone who tries to make money off animals is the most evil person ever!

    Flaggers on CraigsList are akin to posters on YouTube. They're morons with no life who think their opinions are more important than the facts. They feel their opinions should be law so they can be pleased with themselves. And yes, they sit on CL to flag anything they don't agree with.
  • 01-04-2012, 02:59 PM
    jbean7916
    I get flagged for posting feeder roaches every single time. It annoys the heck out of me

    sent from my EVO
  • 01-04-2012, 03:01 PM
    Anatopism
    Re: So frustrated with craigslist
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound View Post
    Technically, you aren't supposed to sell animals on CL, no matter if it's a BP or a dog or a chimp. It's in the rules, so when you're trying to sell, you're in violation of the rules.

    That said, half the flaggers just plain don't think anyone should own pets, it's not about the price tag, it's that you are a horrible person for not being a "forever home" for some "furbaby". Some sincerely think no one should own any animal ever, the PETA/HSUS whackos. Some think anyone who breeds any animal is de ebil. Some think that anyone who owns exotic pets is a irresponsible abuser who turns their pets loose in the Everglades to murder helpless tourists by the dozens. Some think anyone who tries to make money off animals is the most evil person ever!

    Flaggers on CraigsList are akin to posters on YouTube. They're morons with no life who think their opinions are more important than the facts. They feel their opinions should be law so they can be pleased with themselves. And yes, they sit on CL to flag anything they don't agree with.

    It's a fine line between "rehoming fee" and "selling". I certainly try to sell BPs on CL. I don't consider rehoming a parrot for 1/4th it's actual value, including the cage that is worth more than the rehoming fee to be selling, even if the amount seems high compared to a rabbit or hamster rehoming fee =P

    People are just bitter and turdish.
  • 01-04-2012, 03:09 PM
    Royal Hijinx
    Is doing business on CL even really necessary?
  • 01-04-2012, 03:15 PM
    Anatopism
    Re: So frustrated with craigslist
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jinx667 View Post
    Is doing business on CL even really necessary?

    Not necessary for a lot of things, but it has proven to be very useful at times. More useful for selling property. I'm sure people still look at real newspapers for adds, but I've used those more for bottoms of tubs than for paying to post an add. CL can be a pain, but it's free, and is well known by lots of people, so frequently visited.
  • 01-04-2012, 05:00 PM
    wolfy-hound
    It's opinion as to whether any fee = a price. Where is the dividing line between selling the parrot and cage and rehoming it? I agree $20 is ridiculously low to be flagged as selling, so it's probably some moron who thinks it shouldn't go to a new home at all. No matter whether it would be better in a new home due to circumstances, it's just the thought of "forever home" as if people don't have things change in their lives.

    It's not my opinon about it being a rehoming fee or price, just saying, that's how the CL morons thing. They're crazies.
  • 01-04-2012, 05:32 PM
    CLSpider
    The craigslist for my area is actually pretty good. It seems like the only things that are flagged are random breeders of puppies (usually ones that are asking ridiculous prices for them).
    I've posted a few things on craiglist...and yes, you do get a few incredibly idiotic emails, but for the most part it's not so bad. And I've bought things from craigslist a good amount of times with no problems. In fact, I just bought an adult female ghost, no mites, no RI, good weight (around 1300gr), no stuck shed, no scars, no burns, appears to be in great shape, and she's a great eater....for an AWESOME price from an incredibly nice person.
    I really think it's just certain areas. I've read about quite a few bad craigslist experiences on here...but I've yet to see any bad on the CL I go on.
  • 01-04-2012, 05:38 PM
    babyknees
    I was trying to by a stack of NPI cages off of CL and flaggers kept flagging the seller's post and the timing was such that I could see the ad but when I tried to email the poster it would say that the ad had been removed due to being flagged. I finally beat them to it and was able to contact him and go through with the deal but what the heck? Who flags someone selling cages? Do I not understand the CL terms?
  • 01-04-2012, 05:43 PM
    Anatopism
    Re: So frustrated with craigslist
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound View Post
    It's opinion as to whether any fee = a price. Where is the dividing line between selling the parrot and cage and rehoming it? I agree $20 is ridiculously low to be flagged as selling, so it's probably some moron who thinks it shouldn't go to a new home at all. No matter whether it would be better in a new home due to circumstances, it's just the thought of "forever home" as if people don't have things change in their lives.

    It's not my opinon about it being a rehoming fee or price, just saying, that's how the CL morons thing. They're crazies.

    Haha yeah I understand =) Boyfriend was rolling his eyes at me last night when I was telling him all the gruesome things CL makes me think up after being flagged 12 times in one day.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by babyknees View Post
    Do I not understand the CL terms?

    Oh no, you understand them just fine... it's probably some idiot who things ball pythons are just like wildebeast, and prefer to have an entire neighborhood to roam free in, instead of the cozy tubs more similar to their homes in the wild.
  • 01-04-2012, 06:08 PM
    keith88
    My personal favoite especiall around us is the people who are "rehoming there bp" and when I contact them they try and tell me how its such a rare morph.. when in reality its an extremely underwheight annd malnourished normal ball python. Then you ask them their price and I kid you not the one guy for a 600 gram femal normal told me 550 dollars! Without her setup an even 1000 if I wanted the setup too. All I could do was laugh at him and ask if he was really serious. He never replied. It may have been my colorful laungauge skills that the army has taught me lol
  • 01-04-2012, 06:55 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Craigslist does not permit animals to be sold through their site.

    If you're SELLING animals, then the flaggers are doing the RIGHT THING. You're in the wrong, not them.

    A rehoming fee is a small fee to ensure that the animal goes to a home where a person can care for it. A rehoming fee for a green anole shouldn't be significantly different than one for a high end leopard gecko, because the animals need a similar level of care, and the VALUE of the animal is IRRELEVANT---if you're actually trying to just find a home for it.

    If the value of the animal matters, then you aren't adopting an animal out, you are SELLING it. If the cage costs money, then mention that the cage is for sale, and optional--it's legal to sell cages on Craigslist.

    So, good for the flaggers. They're just helping to enforce Craigslist's TOS. If you don't like the rules on Craigslist, then don't use Craigslist. Breaking their rules to post animals for sale makes you and your business look bad. It is dishonest. Dishonesty in one area implies a willingness to dishonesty in other areas.

    If you want Craigslist to change their policy, then you should work on petitioning them to do so (though i wouldn't hold my breath).
    In the meantime, if you have animals to sell, Kijiji/Ebay Classifieds permits animals for sale, as do MANY other classifieds sites.
  • 01-05-2012, 01:54 AM
    youbeyouibei
    I've had great luck with Craigslist for selling accessories, equipment, etc. but I've never tried to sell a live animal of any sort on there so I can't attest to that. I bought a rabbit from a lady that listed it on Craigslist...he's a evil little demon but he's hilarious to have around, so anyway. Not sure if she violated the terms of service or not...don't remember the ad and frankly didn't give it much thought at the time. Hoobly is good for selling animals and I don't think they have a "flag" option on it, so the turd-knockers don't flag your ads just because it offends their delicate sensibilities. It's free to use and pretty easy to navigate. I dunno, just my two cents...
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