Anything special? (possible DUW)

I got this guy off craigslist a couple months ago, thinking (hoping) he was a she. I liked him b/c of his cool colors and head spot. After seeing the yellow belly morph guide and some people asking about yellow bellies, I think he might be a yellow belly. Also his head spot looks exactly like a baby fire that I saw.

I bought him as a normal female, so I have few expectations, but just thought he looked really cool. If the consensus seems to be that he is something other than a normal, I have a normal girl I might pair with him to see if he proves out.

Full body top:
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...8/DSC_0103.jpg

Belly Shot 1:
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...8/DSC_0105.jpg
Belly Shot 2:
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...8/DSC_0107.jpg

Head Spot, shaky image, he wouldn't stay still:
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...8/DSC_0113.jpg

Yep, looks like a yellowbelly :gj:

Awesome! Amazingly happy! I guess that was a $30 well spent!
:banana:

Nice pickup! Ive had a few craigslist steals myself. I love that site!

Congrats, he's pretty!!

I thought yellowbellies had clean stomachs? Well clean yellowish stomachs obviously.

I see a normal! Too busy on belly and not the right color pattern to be a Yellow Belly!

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

I thought yellowbellies had clean stomachs? Well clean yellowish stomachs obviously.

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Yellow bellies don't necessarily have a yellow belly; it's a bit of a misnomer.

Here's a better reference than my limited experience with ybs:

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...s...-Het-Ivory

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Originally Posted by Annarose15

Yellow bellies don't necessarily have a yellow belly; it's a bit of a misnomer.

Here's a better reference than my limited experience with ybs:

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...s...-Het-Ivory

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No thats not what I meant by clean. I meant like all the scales are the same color. Whether its yellowish or more whitish.

i honestly think this is the first time ive seen a "is this a yellow belly" post where i actually though the snake in question may actually be a yellow belly.
congrats
adam jeffery
too bad its not a girl then you would have struck gold

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

No thats not what I meant by clean. I meant like all the scales are the same color. Whether its yellowish or more whitish.

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Not always. Here is a picture of my yb's belly. Very busy.

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/88170/5...FuHEezkL0g.jpg

Then this was a belly of one of the hatchlings he sired. Much cleaner.

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/88170/3...Q5EzejvKb8.jpg

thats a pretty little yellowbelly! awesome craigslist snag!

Technically a "Dinker" until you prove it out but that looks like a YB to me. good luck with that boy.

I'm seeing a normal too, I'd hate to say dinker, but maybe....nothing about this guy screams yellow belly to me.

I hate to say that but I Have doubths abut snake in question being YB.... Belly is more railroad-ish than checkery-ish.. I dont see enought flames... and head spot is very tiny ... he is very dark .. too dark to be YB....
Try make few pictures on White background with flash.. That Could be helpfull with proper ID.
So far I see Interesting Dark normal.. maybe Dinker but not YB :(

he is very different from my other normals. Here is a picture I took with flash.
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...8/741273b7.jpg

When I get a chance I'll take a picture of him next to a normal for comparison.

Comparing him to a normal won't do you any good. Normals can be incredibly varied and unique.

I don't think it's a yellowbelly. It does have a nice dark background, but there's no yellow or orange to speak of on the sides, the flaming is minimal at best, and while the belly gives me pause, I'm still leaning towards no.

This was a yellowbelly I owned, and he wasn't a great example of it either, but you can see how he has yellow on his sides, and some flames going on.

http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/x...oo/jasper3.jpg

http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/x...oo/jasper2.jpg

http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/x...oo/jasper1.jpg

I don't think it's a YB. I'd be more inclined to cross my fingers for it proving to be a Chocolate, or even a Sable...But, I hope for every nice dinker I come across to be a Chocolate, I've developed a bit of an obsession with them.

Mandatory Obligatory Disclaimer: Bottom line, you won't know anything for sure until you see his offspring...Don't count on Yellow Belly though. I just don't see it.

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Originally Posted by Aes_Sidhe

I dont see enought flames... and head spot is very tiny ... he is very dark .. too dark to be YB....

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I was under the impression that the darker the ybs the better the quality? Hes deffinately not too dark his coloring is just right and I see nothing wrong with the size of the head spot? its normal sized lol and the flames I dont see a whole lot of and for the belly part I have seen ybs with the same belly and I have also seen yb bellies look so close to a normal you wouldnt be able to tell until you saw their ivory babies Im sticking with my statement its a yb

also everyone.. compare him to other full grown adult ybs dont just compare to the hatchlings because they change over time :)

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Originally Posted by python_addict

I was under the impression that the darker the ybs the better the quality? Hes deffinately not too dark his coloring is just right and I see nothing wrong with the size of the head spot? its normal sized lol and the flames I dont see a whole lot of and for the belly part I have seen ybs with the same belly and I have also seen yb bellies look so close to a normal you wouldnt be able to tell until you saw their ivory babies Im sticking with my statement its a yb

also everyone.. compare him to other full grown adult ybs dont just compare to the hatchlings because they change over time :)

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Yellowbellies aren't necessarily dark, so much as they are high contrast. Generally their dark areas will appear closer to black, and the lighter areas will have a yellow/orange tint to them. This snake is brown on brown, classic normal coloring.

Based on the picture of the snake being held, it doesn't look like an adult, so why compare it to adult yellowbellies? And adults don't change *that* much compared to the babies.

pastels brown out normals can get darker or lighter my spider gets more golden albinos can fade caramel albinos get darker most mojaves lose yellow maybe its not an adult but I wouldnt say its a normal we all know yellowbellies can be extremely tricky maybe its just me who likes the darker yellowbellies then? But I still think we should get a few pictures with flash or in natural light the picture itself looks dark and also by the way the brown blushing throughout him is nice :)

PS my favorite color changes are killerbees :D from white to yellow so beautiful!

That's a YB for sure! No doubts here. Just like all morphs there are variances, but, he has the flames from the belly up and the checkering to identify him.

Edit: He also has the head spot.

eh. i don't see YB. i see some signs but he's just not as yellow as a YB should be. i just don't see 100% YB. dinker until proven otherwise :D:P

It is very cold right now in florida, but if it warms up this weekend I'll take some pictures in natural light. He does have a lot of blushing, and is very interestingly colored. I think I might try to prove him out with my third female, but I might just want to make more Mojaves

He is not a baby per say, but he is still smaller, around 750 or so grams.

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Originally Posted by geeko

It is very cold right now in florida, but if it warms up this weekend I'll take some pictures in natural light. He does have a lot of blushing, and is very interestingly colored. I think I might try to prove him out with my third female, but I might just want to make more Mojaves

He is not a baby per say, but he is still smaller, around 750 or so grams.

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cool =]. hope he proves to be more than a good looking normal :gj: