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  • 12-22-2011, 10:18 AM
    enchantress62
    How does one respond to this?
    Recently I was accused of worshiping Satan because I have pet snakes. The woman who accused me was overheard talking to another nurse. My first responce was to laugh hysterically until her slander filtered over to my personal life. My Dad happened to be a patient on one of the units in our facility and this nurse asked my Dad what was up with all my snakes. My Dad, being the devowed Christian he is, told her that I have always danced to my own drummer but... he also told her that I am a good nurse, a good mother, and a good person. Yay Dad! lol

    Anyway, later she was overheard again talking about me and complaining about my pets. I make no secret about Frank and Baloo. I love them and am proud to have them but really.... How the heck do you shut someone like this down. I don't care what she thinks of me but to envolve my Dad and put him on the defensive was just uncalled for.

    How would you respond to someone like this?
  • 12-22-2011, 10:25 AM
    LovelyMomma
    Personally, I'd tell her to mind her own effin business. But, since it's happening at your work place, I think the only way to handle it is to approach her & explain to her why you have them. & that there's no difference between them and any other pet.

    Or, you could always just go along with it. Play the hellbent, devil-worshipping nurse. It'll at least make her stop asking so many questions...If you're lucky, she might even stay away from you! :partyon::worship::devilish:
  • 12-22-2011, 10:36 AM
    enchantress62
    hehe giving her the evil eye is more my style. :cool:
  • 12-22-2011, 10:37 AM
    LovelyMomma
    Maybe even paint your nail black one day ;)
  • 12-22-2011, 10:43 AM
    enchantress62
    I thought about reminding her that the bible says "Judge not lest you be judged." but I just don't see that going anywhere except to insite preaching and I don't want to be gagging at work. lol
  • 12-22-2011, 10:46 AM
    ChrisS
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    I would talk to your supervisor and let him/her know about the situation. I would say that the woman is slandering your name by calling you a devil worshiper. I would say she is making you feel uncomfortable in the workplace and want something done about it. Or you could leave the slander part out and just say she is running her mouth and making you feel uncomfortable. Either way because it is a working enviroment your supervisor will have to take some kind of action. Unfortunately keeping snakes, or any "non normal" pets, will always end up with someone somewhere running their mouth.
  • 12-22-2011, 10:46 AM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by enchantress62 View Post
    Recently I was accused of worshiping Satan because I have pet snakes. The woman who accused me was overheard talking to another nurse. My first responce was to laugh hysterically until her slander filtered over to my personal life. My Dad happened to be a patient on one of the units in our facility and this nurse asked my Dad what was up with all my snakes. My Dad, being the devowed Christian he is, told her that I have always danced to my own drummer but... he also told her that I am a good nurse, a good mother, and a good person. Yay Dad! lol

    Anyway, later she was overheard again talking about me and complaining about my pets. I make no secret about Frank and Baloo. I love them and am proud to have them but really.... How the heck do you shut someone like this down. I don't care what she thinks of me but to envolve my Dad and put him on the defensive was just uncalled for.

    How would you respond to someone like this?

    Just tell 'em you're a Druid and you worship Cernunnos.

    http://www.mysticgiftsandcharms.co.u..._cernunnos.jpg
  • 12-22-2011, 10:46 AM
    LovelyMomma
    :colbert: Yeah, that's a big no-no lol Is she *ahem* aged?
  • 12-22-2011, 10:48 AM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LovelyMomma View Post
    Personally, I'd tell her to mind her own effin business. But, since it's happening at your work place, I think the only way to handle it is to approach her & explain to her why you have them. & that there's no difference between them and any other pet.

    Or, you could always just go along with it. Play the hellbent, devil-worshipping nurse. It'll at least make her stop asking so many questions...If you're lucky, she might even stay away from you! :partyon::worship::devilish:

    That actually works really well on bikers.

    [don't ask]

    :D
  • 12-22-2011, 10:49 AM
    LovelyMomma
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Salamander View Post
    That actually works really well on bikers.

    [don't ask]

    :D

    I'm hoping you're referring to playing the part... because I don't see how tellin a biker to mind his own business would work unless you're workin on getting your butt beat lol
  • 12-22-2011, 10:55 AM
    enchantress62
    By aged do you mean "Middle aged"? She's somewhere in her 50,s or 60,s but hell I'm 49 and if anything her age should give her at least a little wisdom. lol Anyway, I don't begrudge anyone their religeous preferences but damn it makes me angry when it's imposed on me and my family. I like the Druid idea. hehe maybe I should get fang marks tatoo'd on my neck...hhmm:rolleyes:
  • 12-22-2011, 10:57 AM
    Vypyrz
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Well, one thing that you could do is talk to your Supervisor/ Human Resources department about her harrassment.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by enchantress62 View Post
    Recently I was accused of worshiping Satan because I have pet snakes. The woman who accused me was overheard talking to another nurse.

    I gather from your post that the woman feels that the serpent is a symbol of the Devil. I also gather from your post, that you both work in the medical profession. And, if I'm not mistaken, the symbol for the medical profession is...

    http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...esCATGXNMM.jpg

    :O :ohmygod:

    Or, has she failed to notice that, according to her interpretation, she works under a Satanic symbol?
  • 12-22-2011, 10:58 AM
    LovelyMomma
    No, I meant over 60s lol. I just don't understand people like that. She probably works in your wing too, huh?
  • 12-22-2011, 11:14 AM
    enchantress62
    I agree that going to my supervisor is the logical thing to do but I can just picture him rolling his eyes when I tell him. This is really stupid and I think that is what's making me angry. I don't like to be reduced to responding to blatent ignorance. I have enough of my own to deal with. lmao I just wondered how the rest of you deal with this kind of thing.
  • 12-22-2011, 11:17 AM
    JulieInNJ
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vypyrz View Post
    well, one thing that you could do is talk to your supervisor/ human resources department about her harrassment.



    I gather from your post that the woman feels that the serpent is a symbol of the devil. I also gather from your post, that you both work in the medical profession. And, if i'm not mistaken, the symbol for the medical profession is...

    http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...escatgxnmm.jpg

    :o :ohmygod:

    Or, has she failed to notice that, according to her interpretation, she works under a satanic symbol?

    this is perfect!!!!
  • 12-22-2011, 11:25 AM
    enchantress62
    lol yes that symbol is perfect. In fact I have an idea. I'll find a copy of it and name the two snakes Baloo and Frank then give it to her with a smiley face card. Maybe if I make a joke of it I can de-escilate the situation without anyone getting in trouble. I will go to my supervisor if it continues against my best efforts though.
  • 12-22-2011, 11:26 AM
    WingedWolfPsion
    I would report it to the supervisor thusly:

    "Hi, I'm having an issue with one of my coworkers here. I'm not sure if she is mentally stable, and I'm getting a bit concerned. She seems to be telling people that I'm a devil worshipper because I keep a couple of pet snakes, and it's beginning to make me feel a bit uncomfortable. I'm worried that she may not have a very solid grasp of reality, and might wind up saying something frightening to a patient, or even become dangerous."

    ;)
  • 12-22-2011, 11:30 AM
    enchantress62
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Wow! That's good. :rolleyes:
  • 12-22-2011, 11:38 AM
    Norm66
    Yea, Winged Wolf nailed it IMO.

    The only professional way to handle it is through the supervisor as above.

    But I can think of so many un-professional ways that would be a lot more fun. ;^)
  • 12-22-2011, 11:45 AM
    Cendalla
    I don't really know why but people in the nursing field seem very set in their ways- it very well could be because of the strong religious background that goes with the 'older' generation in nurses.

    I get people that look at me like I'm crazy and a bit touched in the head when they find out I have snakes. I get people that are fascinated and I have even had someone tell me that I should kill them because they are evil.

    I could start quoting lines from the bible but I find that people will rationalize why they are right and you are wrong and there really is no changing their opinions. They will just know better than you:rolleyes:

    I don't know what you can do to resolve your current problem other than talking to the individual and telling her that discussing your life at the work place or anywhere else with other people is not very professional.

    The long term actions you can take is to simple keep on as you are doing. Talk about your legless babies and let every one know the affection you have for them. Most people fear snake because of a lack of exposure and information about them. Corrupt them early is my approach. My son is 2 1/2 and he thinks reptiles are all that and a bag of chips!



    * Just to note: I'm not bashing Christianity. My father-in-law is a preacher in a Wesleyan church and I have often discussed the imagery with serpents in the religious western world verses the the view that other cultures have taken on them. Its not as conservative of a church as others so I find that they are very positive about my reptiles.-They also think I am absolutely insane for owning a tarantula:P
  • 12-22-2011, 12:10 PM
    Egapal
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by enchantress62 View Post
    Recently I was accused of worshiping Satan because I have pet snakes. The woman who accused me was overheard talking to another nurse. My first responce was to laugh hysterically until her slander filtered over to my personal life. My Dad happened to be a patient on one of the units in our facility and this nurse asked my Dad what was up with all my snakes. My Dad, being the devowed Christian he is, told her that I have always danced to my own drummer but... he also told her that I am a good nurse, a good mother, and a good person. Yay Dad! lol

    Anyway, later she was overheard again talking about me and complaining about my pets. I make no secret about Frank and Baloo. I love them and am proud to have them but really.... How the heck do you shut someone like this down. I don't care what she thinks of me but to envolve my Dad and put him on the defensive was just uncalled for.

    How would you respond to someone like this?

    It's really simple. Hand her a bible and ask her to find you the reference in the bible that says snakes have anything to do with the Devil. For that matter you could ask her to establish that there is in fact a devil but lets take some baby steps with her. If she comes back with "Because you have done this ... on your belly you shall go, and you shall eat dust all the days of your life," (Gen 3:14) Kindly inform her that your snakes do not eat dust. They in fact eat rodents. This bible verse sounds like its describing a common worm more than a snake. If she insists that that was a snake then throw this one at her. Mark 16:17-18, in which the risen Jesus tells his disciples, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; in my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." If she believes why hasn't she taken up serpents?
  • 12-22-2011, 01:12 PM
    dart
    I can't believe out of all the advice given here no one has said: "Who cares?" What does it matter what she thinks or says? If it's not affecting your work performance it doesn't really matter.

    Everyone has people they know that talk smack behind their backs, just let it roll off your shoulder and ignore her. She'll let it go within a week or two once she finds something else that she feels is worth gossiping about.
  • 12-22-2011, 01:20 PM
    Royal Hijinx
    I am also a RN, and have found that the simplest way to handle a case like this is like so:

    1. You need to tell her directly, with a witness that what she is saying about you is unacceptable and makes you uncomfortable. I would not get in to an argument either way.
    2. If she does not stop, go to the supervisor.

    You likely will not change her mind on the matter, as she will not change yours. But, she is a professional who needs to act as such. You need to remain above board, and not stoop to her level.

    Every time RNs get in these catty pissing matches, it makes the whole group look bad.
  • 12-22-2011, 01:22 PM
    Royal Hijinx
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dart View Post
    I can't believe out of all the advice given here no one has said: "Who cares?" What does it matter what she thinks or says? If it's not affecting your work performance it doesn't really matter.

    Everyone has people they know that talk smack behind their backs, just let it roll off your shoulder and ignore her. She'll let it go within a week or two once she finds something else that she feels is worth gossiping about.

    I kind of agree with this, but it still makes the work place uncomfortable and should be nipped in the bud.
  • 12-22-2011, 01:27 PM
    Bellabob
    Ahahahahaha I've had this happen before many times. I would just go with it, just screw with her a little, it would be fun.
  • 12-22-2011, 02:00 PM
    Valentine Pirate
    The supervisor thing is a good call. I think it would make a big difference to let them know she had said these things to your father as a patient, it gives you some basis that she's saying these things to patients about you. It shouldn't make a difference if you have snakes as pets or a designer lap dog with a nasty temperament. For that matter your religion shouldn't matter even if you did worship satan :rolleyes: As long as you do your job well why is it any of her friggin business? What an irritating headache of a situation
  • 12-22-2011, 02:11 PM
    Anatopism
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChrisS View Post
    I would talk to your supervisor and let him/her know about the situation. I would say that the woman is slandering your name by calling you a devil worshiper. I would say she is making you feel uncomfortable in the workplace and want something done about it. Or you could leave the slander part out and just say she is running her mouth and making you feel uncomfortable. Either way because it is a working enviroment your supervisor will have to take some kind of action. Unfortunately keeping snakes, or any "non normal" pets, will always end up with someone somewhere running their mouth.

    Second this. Speak with your supervisor calmly and explain she is making you uncomfortable. You don't go around badmouthing her lifestyle or choice of car, and while she has every right to judge you for being different, she does not have the right to harrass you (directly, or indirectly through patients/employees) in the workplace especially. Follow the correct channels through work, don't act out irrationally or give any reason to add fuel to her fire.
  • 12-22-2011, 06:47 PM
    RichL
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LovelyMomma View Post
    Play the hellbent, devil-worshipping nurse. It'll at least make her stop asking so many questions...If you're lucky, she might even stay away from you! :partyon::worship::devilish:

    x200 This !!

    HaHa... works every time to those 'holier than thou' types.

    I'm not religious, and definitely do not want to get a conversation/debate going here about it, but I'm pretty open. Let me believe what I want to believe and I will let you believe what you want to believe. We can still be friends in the process.

    The moment you start 'pressing', is the moment I will make you out to 'NOT' be a liar..haha.. It usually shuts them up, and they are afraid to stand by you in fear of lightning falling from the heavens..lol
  • 12-22-2011, 07:01 PM
    cecilbturtle
    i personally would refrain from getting into a theological debate with her but you could show her this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvFCI2bsajM
  • 12-22-2011, 07:17 PM
    Skittles1101
    Also, didn't God turn Moses' staff into a snake for the Egyptians?? I doubt God would have anything to do with snakes if they represented the devil no?

    I get crap all the time at work too,I work in public safety with a bunch of cops and they are constantly rashing on me. I just play the part of the crazy snake lady, and I talk about their cute little faces :D

    I am a christian and I keep snakes. Big deal :rolleyes:
  • 12-22-2011, 07:27 PM
    loonunit
    I'm going to second (third? seventh? SIGN OF THE DEVILTH?) the supervisor comments. I think if this continues you really will have to at least mention it to him. He'll laugh or roll his eyes, but at least he'll remember if it comes up. Then if it keeps happening and he keeps laughing and brushing it off, you may have to go one over him.

    And like my friend says: always start with and try to stick to the "I feel..." or "it makes me feel..." statements. Those really do work.
  • 12-22-2011, 09:15 PM
    Missy King
    Well a couple ways....just walk up to her and tell her you've heard her complaining, and ask her to keep her opinions to herself *LOL* Or say that complaining about co-workers is not only rude, but an offence that can get her in trouble. Then complain to a higher up that she is making fun of your religion *LOL*

    Throw a snake on her? Okay no no...lol
    Just throw a rubber one on her, and call HER the devil.

    OKay okay...seriously...slap her. NO okay...
    Tell her you've heard her snarking. Then ask her if God created snakes. Then when she says yes, then tell her you admire God's work. Or something.

    Remember, in the bible it was said that as punishment, Even had to have a painful period, and the snakes had to lose their legs...just tell her your trying to provide spiritual healing for snake-kind by starting breeding projects to regrow their legs.
    THEN throw a rubber snake on her, and then abruptly say that you're sorry because it was your God-bless period that made you do it.

    OKAY no....I'm no help at this. I'm laughing though. I was raised holy-roller Pentecostal. I'm not so much anymore, but I have heard people say that having a snake was sinful, or like worshiping satan or something.
    If you really want to confront her i'd go with the thread of following up on if god made snakes, and if he hates them, or he he appreciates you trying to rehabilitate them because they ARE inherently evil, after all.

    Just go up and ask her "hey, stupid, i mean...*blank*... why do you think snakes have something to do with satan?" and then tell her you really want her to minister to you about the evilness of snakes and what the bible says.

    When she says "satan took the form of a snake to tempt eve" point out that THAT was when the snake had legs. THEN point out how he used to be an angel, and then innocently ask if all agngels are evil because he WAS an angel. Then Just tell her that God loves all creatures great and small, and that at least your creature could eat her face for being so stupid.

    *snortlaugh*
  • 12-22-2011, 09:30 PM
    Missy King
    OKay really. Just tell your supervisor that so-&-so is going around talking to patients about you, and saying you are a religion you are not. She shouldn't be talking to anyone about anyone else, but that usually doesn't stop people.

    Don't take it too seriously. Just in an offhand way tell your supervisor "hey, you know *blank*? Patients have been telling me that she's assuming i'm a certain religion and then talking about me to them about it! Just offhand, could you tell talk to her? Its just making me feel weird." If you word it the right way, the manager or whomever can't really say no or dismiss it as being as stupid as it is. Even just a fast "hey, next time you talk to *blah* would you ask her to quit telling people i worship satan, just because i own a snake? It's weirding out the patients, and me!"

    And i could see someone writing "just ignore it, who cares" But frankly it's just so stupid i don't think i could ignore it *shrug*

    Or just dont' say anything, and then go up to her one day and say "*gasp* hey so-&-so...you know what i realized?? We WORK under a Greek GOD symbol...did you know that the DOUBLE SNAKE symbol in the medical field is from the Greek GOD Hermes? I never considered how sacrilegious this is!!!!"

    I wonder what she would say? hehe
  • 12-22-2011, 09:36 PM
    therunaway
    i would personally tell them to get there nose out of the bible for at least 5 minutes and come back to reality and then say stuff about you, because the bible says "all serpents are devils" to some people, which is effin ridiculous, i mean, you do your own thing and so do they,**OFFTOPIC**. i am 13 and in 7th grader and i get asked all the time why i want pet snakes, i answer with "because i want them, is it a bother to you?" also another question i get it why i have my septum pierced, or my hair jet black, my skinny jeans, all questions lead to the same answer, "because i want them or it, is it bothering you?"
  • 12-22-2011, 10:24 PM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LovelyMomma View Post
    I'm hoping you're referring to playing the part... because I don't see how tellin a biker to mind his own business would work unless you're workin on getting your butt beat lol

    I am a biker.
    They love me....but for a very long time I freaked them out.

    I'd sit at parties and read scholarly books on comparative religion.

    One Christmas I showed up with "The Pagan Origins Of Christmas".
    The next time, it was "Santa Was A Shaman".

    Probably the worst was bringing Anton LaVey's "The Satanic Witch" to a Halloween party.
    [which is nothing at all like it sounds like....it's actually an hysterically funny book about how women can get guys to do anything they want]

    My eclectic reading habits lead to rumors...which lead to paranoia which lead to respectful "fear".
    [and naturally I played it to the hilt wearing freaky clothes, swirly, gauzy skirts and lots of silver jewelry for a while]...LOL

    Then I started reading about quantum theory and holographic universes and they got over it....mostly.

    :D

    [never judge a reader by the cover of their book]

    :)
  • 12-22-2011, 10:29 PM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Missy King View Post
    Well a couple ways....just walk up to her and tell her you've heard her complaining, and ask her to keep her opinions to herself *LOL* Or say that complaining about co-workers is not only rude, but an offence that can get her in trouble. Then complain to a higher up that she is making fun of your religion *LOL*

    Throw a snake on her? Okay no no...lol
    Just throw a rubber one on her, and call HER the devil.

    OKay okay...seriously...slap her. NO okay...
    Tell her you've heard her snarking. Then ask her if God created snakes. Then when she says yes, then tell her you admire God's work. Or something.

    Remember, in the bible it was said that as punishment, Even had to have a painful period, and the snakes had to lose their legs...just tell her your trying to provide spiritual healing for snake-kind by starting breeding projects to regrow their legs.
    THEN throw a rubber snake on her, and then abruptly say that you're sorry because it was your God-bless period that made you do it.

    OKAY no....I'm no help at this. I'm laughing though. I was raised holy-roller Pentecostal. I'm not so much anymore, but I have heard people say that having a snake was sinful, or like worshiping satan or something.
    If you really want to confront her i'd go with the thread of following up on if god made snakes, and if he hates them, or he he appreciates you trying to rehabilitate them because they ARE inherently evil, after all.

    Just go up and ask her "hey, stupid, i mean...*blank*... why do you think snakes have something to do with satan?" and then tell her you really want her to minister to you about the evilness of snakes and what the bible says.

    When she says "satan took the form of a snake to tempt eve" point out that THAT was when the snake had legs. THEN point out how he used to be an angel, and then innocently ask if all agngels are evil because he WAS an angel. Then Just tell her that God loves all creatures great and small, and that at least your creature could eat her face for being so stupid.

    *snortlaugh*

    It'd be simpler to just tell her God made snakes to eat rats and mice so they wouldn't overrun the planet [or run up her leg] because she's probably freaked out by them too.

    :D

    [sometimes my "brothers and sisters" embarrass me to death]
  • 12-22-2011, 10:32 PM
    Salamander Rising
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    I'm going to second (third? seventh? SIGN OF THE DEVILTH?) the supervisor comments. I think if this continues you really will have to at least mention it to him. He'll laugh or roll his eyes, but at least he'll remember if it comes up. Then if it keeps happening and he keeps laughing and brushing it off, you may have to go one over him.

    And like my friend says: always start with and try to stick to the "I feel..." or "it makes me feel..." statements. Those really do work.

    I have a very twisted sense of humor.

    I'd show up for work dressed totally in black, tattoos displayed, a pentagram around my neck...and the biggest snake I could fit into my lunch bag.

    Better to be hanged for a wolf than a sheep.

    :)
  • 12-23-2011, 10:13 AM
    enchantress62
    You guys are great and Missy King.... OMG! I'm still rolling on the floor laughing. I don't perceive this woman as a threat or I would have gone to my supervisor a long time ago. It's just annoying because it's so stupid and, although my Dad handled it beautifully, it still makes me angry that she had the nerve to bring him into it.

    Most likely it will end soon. Some of the people I work with have started challenging her, as I was told last night, so for now I will rise above it but if it continues I will go to the floor manager and ask him to stop it.

    What's really funny, however, is that this woman knows nothing about me except that I have snakes as pets. I don't talk about religion at work if I can help it because those discussions never end well. Still, I am Wiccan, and it's tempting to let that slip just to mess with her. lol I'm sure she would not even listen if I told her that we don't believe in Satin, or better said we don't believe in the Christian Satin.

    Sigh... I will be good.... but it's so much more fun to be impish. hehe
  • 12-23-2011, 01:58 PM
    blueberrypancakes
    It's weird sometimes what people decide to be against... My husband and I are devout Christians and we adore our snake. God made them and he cares for all of his creation. Satan took the form of a serpent to deceive Eve, but he also takes the form of man all the time, so perhaps we should cut ties with those vile creatures as well? :P

    My spiritual mentor told me just the other day to promise her to get rid of my snakes when I have children. I told her that was like telling me not to have a cat because people are attacked and killed by lions. :snake:
  • 12-23-2011, 02:27 PM
    enchantress62
    Exactly! Religion has nothing to do with my interest in reptiles, as I'm sure it has nothing to do with anyone else's on this site. When I told my mother, who is a devowed Christian, about this woman, her responce after laughing was, "I guess she doesn't know that snakes are too stupid to be evil." Gotta love Mama. :rofl:
  • 12-23-2011, 03:07 PM
    blueberrypancakes
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by enchantress62 View Post
    "I guess she doesn't know that snakes are too stupid to be evil."

    Thats too true! I keep Jackson right next to my bed, and my friend said "Don't you think that when you're sleeping he's thinking about getting out to kill you?". I said "I think in human terms he's thinking '..............'. In snake terms he's wondering when his next rat is coming."
  • 12-23-2011, 06:44 PM
    enchantress62
    lol too true... too true. Baloo cracks me up because of the things she does as a baby trying to get used to her own body and senses. ie. When she eats she sometimes looses her balance and winds up on her side or back then rolls around with the mouse before getting it into the right position. If she thought like a human, and could talk, she would be saying, "Ah Ha! I got you! Now be still while I eat you." hehe but the truth is she's not likely to be thinking anything only experiencing tactile sensation.
  • 12-23-2011, 07:09 PM
    UVA WingMan
    My GF family had a bit of a problem with my snakes, one actually called me a Demon. I had to explain to them that they were totally harmless. I let a hatching bite me just to prove my point. They think it's pretty cool now. Although few of them will come to my house. They have accepted it completely. Even my GF was scared of them at first, now she wants to start her own collection of morphs that she likes and wants to work with.
    It's human nature to fear what the unusual or unknown. Your best bet is to talk the the person saying ignorant comments. Try to explain that the animals are harmless and actually fun to handle and be around. They may not want to be near them, but they don't have to think you worship Satan because you enjoy your pets. If they won't listen to reason, than I wouldn't waste my energy trying to educate them. Let them think what they want, and don't know that you tried your best.
    Hope this helps.
    Merry Christmas!!!
  • 12-23-2011, 08:02 PM
    Redneck_Crow
    This thread is cracking me up.

    I am a Christian and an administrator on a website run by Christians that is set up to discuss and debate theology and various other subjects. We have some weird whacked out people on there, nutty enough to suggest that dragons exist and that Yahweh was one of them. I have a thread going on about my pet "legless lizards" with pics. Not even our worst nutcases has suggested that snakes are of teh devil, I'm worshiping teh devil, etc. We get some pretty good head cases too. I am soooooo envious.

    Good grief, I wish I had that woman where I work. I'd love to have a little theological "chat" with her when she said something about my snakes.
  • 12-24-2011, 02:58 AM
    Missy King
    lol i totally had fun and a laugh. I just couldn't help being sarcastic. I think when i was a really little kid, i did think think that God hated snakes, because the devil took the form of a snake. I think in my teenage years, i would have gotten irritated with someone who said that...and i think as i'm middle aged now...well, in my 30's (31 on the second...boooo!!) I really just want to be a brat!

    I don't really know what i believe anymore...but i would have a lot of fun playing "Devil's" Advocate on this one :)
  • 12-24-2011, 05:37 AM
    Sama
    Some people are weird, I am glad to hear some other people at work are standing up for you and I hope she gets over it soon. I am another Christian who keeps and breeds snakes and I have never personally heard this type of reaction. I have had a truck driver mention that in the old days I would have been drowned as a baby because I have red hair which is a sign of the devil. I told him I was glad I was born in this time period then : ). He left in a rush, but I also kept an eye on him while he was there. Some people....sigh
  • 12-29-2011, 11:17 AM
    MrLang
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Tell her you heard what she said about you and that you're very disappointed with her immature behavior and expected better of her.

    Crushed by guilt.
  • 12-30-2011, 12:25 AM
    Savannelee
    1) Nobody likes a tatletale.

    2) Whats wrong with worshipping Satan?

    3) Why waste your time caring what anyone else thinks?
  • 12-30-2011, 05:31 AM
    Emily Hubbard
    Let me just say, I am a Christian myself and some of my least favorite people are other Christians. I am really unsettled by people who interpret things literally. Snakes are called evil because Satan took the form of one in Eden, yet whales are not called evil because one swallowed Jonah, nor are calves called evil because Aaron made an idol out of one.... the logic is ridiculous. What about all of the evil things PEOPLE have done, before, during, and after the bible. Anyway, enough of that rant.....

    I have found that when you engage these people in a religious debate, you can back them into a corner so fast they usually end up stuttering in tears. Not that you have to be nasty, you can question them as nicely and reasonably as possible and they will still be speechless.

    "Why do you think I am a Satan worshiper because I have snakes?"
    "Satan tempted Eve in the form of a serpent."
    "How are all snakes bad because of the actions and use of one?"
    "No other animal has been called Satan."
    "Can you say that all human are bad because some worship Satan? Are we all murderers because some people murder?....."

    You will never get a civil response like, "oh, that is a really good point" from people like this. But you can make them go away and stop talking to you. They will always be right in their mind. I saw it all the time and stopped going to church. I now worship privately. So, your options are to engage her in a conversation to nowhere, or to ignore it. You will never convince her that she is a ridiculous person that needs to just stop saying words. :rage:
  • 12-30-2011, 05:37 AM
    Emily Hubbard
    Re: How does one respond to this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blueberrypancakes View Post
    Thats too true! I keep Jackson right next to my bed, and my friend said "Don't you think that when you're sleeping he's thinking about getting out to kill you?". I said "I think in human terms he's thinking '..............'. In snake terms he's wondering when his next rat is coming."

    HAHAHA! This is SO true. My girl makes me laugh so hard. Sometimes when she is active, I will open the front of the glass and let her crawl out herself (the viv is about 6 inches off the floor). After I did that for a while, I would walk in the room and see her running her nose all along the glass like, "WHERE is the PORTAL to beyond!?!" I thought it must be SO confusing to SOMETIMES have the forcefield gone and then just reappear. haha. Poor thing, what have I done?! :rofl:
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