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  • 12-20-2011, 02:04 PM
    Adam Chandler
    High White Russian Blue babies
    Lately I've had to cut down on the number of rats in my breeding project. One of the two pairs I've decided to keep are two high white Russian Blues who just recently gave me a litter.
    http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...4/Bluerats.jpg
    The babies

    http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o.../Bluerats2.jpg
    The mom
  • 12-20-2011, 02:22 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Sweet litter of blazed kits Adam :gj:
  • 12-20-2011, 02:30 PM
    aldebono
    So cute!

    What makes them Russian vs American blue? I have looked to no avail.

    The blues are definitely nice. Mine have a very sweet temperament, as do my dumbos.
  • 12-20-2011, 02:48 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: High White Russian Blue babies
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aldebono View Post
    So cute!
    What makes them Russian vs American blue? I have looked to no avail.

    American blues are a much lighter blue and are not compatible with Russian blues.

    American blue
    http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/PICT4860.jpg
    http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/PICT0242.jpg

    Russian Blue
    http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/PICT3072.jpg

    And since some of my rats have both russian blue and american blue I can get both in the same litter :P
    http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...ebluegirls.jpg
  • 12-20-2011, 03:41 PM
    aldebono
    Oh wow. That was easy.

    Mine are definitely Russian Blues then.

    Such cuties!
  • 12-20-2011, 04:41 PM
    Redneck_Crow
    I love the blues. One of my blue dumbos just dropped her first litters this morning. The pic is of her and the sire of her litter. Plus one of the two crawlers she "borrowed" from her sister.

    http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...andrats003.jpg

    It's OK, though. Sis stole four of her pinks.

    http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...andrats004.jpg
  • 12-20-2011, 04:49 PM
    Simple Man
    Good looking rats everyone!

    Regards,

    B
  • 12-21-2011, 12:06 AM
    rendogg
    Awesome rats!!!! Im just getting into all the cool colors/morphs of rats. Is there a site I can look up to give me some more info? Love the blues I just cant find any cool stuff where I live. Thanks in advance.
  • 12-21-2011, 03:39 AM
    Michelle.C
    Re: High White Russian Blue babies
    Adorable rats! I love the high white blues. :)

    While Russian Blues aren't compatible with American Blues, you can cross the lines and end up with something called Russian Silvers. They carry both the American Blue and Russian Blue genetics. They usually end up lighter than even American Blues, but can end up looking a lot like Russian Blues.
  • 12-21-2011, 04:00 AM
    Melody
    Re: High White Russian Blue babies
    well arent they just darling :P
  • 12-22-2011, 02:13 AM
    reptilegirl07
    Oddly enough I got a very very light blue in my russian blue litter. I'm assuming they carry american blue too. I'll have to get photos so you guys can tell me.

    But I'm working towards BEW and using the minimally marked russian blue and black rats to do so. One thing to look out for is MC in your ratties. They may die before weaning or up to about 40 days?

    I'm working on breeding out the color of my babies. I have the parents, babies, and now the babies babies. :)



    And here is a litter I'm buying from someone else so that I can get to BEW faster. I believe there are already bew's in that litter
    http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3740/bews.jpg
  • 12-22-2011, 02:40 AM
    snakesRkewl
    Even if you breed a pure white BEW X a pure white BEW there is always a chance the babies will be marked :gj:

    The litter looks like it could be all BEW :gj:

    I've read about BEW's and mega colon, we have made many litters of BEW's and have never had MC :confused:
  • 12-22-2011, 03:00 AM
    reptilegirl07
    You did well!

    I first tried for a bew litter back in 2009-2010 and wound up with MC. I used a blazed and husky.

    My whole litter had it.

    So far, I'm at generation 3 and everything is going great, knock on wood!

    So far, I've noticed blazed might be to blame more-so than just plain high whites. I think it also depends on how you're making high whites. Maybe using hooded rats, or other rats not known to carry MC is better?

    I want to get some c/c bew and make some be siamese :) <3

    That litter is all BE. But They are marked so I don't think they are considered BEW. BEW is all white with black eyes, no?
  • 12-22-2011, 03:09 AM
    heathers*bps
    I'm not all the smart about rats ( other than what sizes ky snakes eat :rolleyes: ) but I've been told I got some pretty neat ones. Anyway, all the rats pictured in this thread are super cute!
  • 12-22-2011, 03:57 AM
    jben
    Those are some real cute ones, I'm gonna have to post pics of mine.

    Sent from my crappy cell using tapatalk.
  • 12-22-2011, 09:15 AM
    aldebono
    That masked baby is to die for! So cute!
  • 12-22-2011, 10:04 AM
    Adam Chandler
    Re: High White Russian Blue babies
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptilegirl07 View Post
    And here is a litter I'm buying from someone else so that I can get to BEW faster. I believe there are already bew's in that litter
    http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3740/bews.jpg

    That's the litter you are buying from me ;)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptilegirl07 View Post
    I believe there are already bew's in that litter

    Yes, both parents of the litter are BEW, all the offspring appear to be BEW (some with dalmatian spotting) except the masked guy, he is a surrogate.
  • 12-22-2011, 12:39 PM
    reptilegirl07
    OMG YAY! I didn't think you were on here Adam!! How cool is that! My transport shot you an email!

    I'm super excited for these guys.

    I'm telling everyone, if you can't tell :)
  • 12-22-2011, 04:57 PM
    babyknees
    Really good looking.
  • 12-22-2011, 05:10 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: High White Russian Blue babies
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptilegirl07 View Post
    So far, I've noticed blazed might be to blame more-so than just plain high whites. I think it also depends on how you're making high whites. Maybe using hooded rats, or other rats not known to carry MC is better?

    There is only one gene that makes mega colon as far as I know, and that's the dominate trait high white.
    You can breed recessive high white until your blue in the face and you will not make a MC baby ever.
    All blazes are the result of the high white gene, the other genetics in the rat have nothing to do with mega colon just the high white gene.

    Quote:

    That litter is all BE. But They are marked so I don't think they are considered BEW. BEW is all white with black eyes, no?
    No BEW's are not all white, in fact most are not all white, and yes the whole litter is BEW.
    The gene covers up other colors or at least tries to.
    As far as I know all masked rats are BEW's, the gene just fails to completely turn the coat white.

    The comment you make about using hooded rats is probably why many large breeders use hooded rats
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