HELP PLEASE...Is this a Lesser Ball Python?

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/show...hp?i=40296&c=3

I am about to buy this Lesser BP from a guy on Craigslist. This is the picture he sent me. can someone tell me if this is a Lesser or not

thanks

TOm

Looks like a lesser or butter to me.

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Originally Posted by eel588

Looks like a lesser or butter to me.

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Do they lighten up as they get older? this one seams to have darker edges. I thought Lessers lacked black. He is selling him for $150. I am suppose to pick it up tomorrow. thanks for the help.

yes it looks like one, the guy seriously couldn't get a picture of it not in a ball though?

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

yes it looks like one, the guy seriously couldn't get a picture of it not in a ball though?

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Thanks....yeah, the snake all balled up isn't the best pic to take. I got the guy down to $150 from $200 so I was happy to get him before someone else did. when I get him tomorrow night I will post a better pic. thanks for the ID

He looks lesser/butter.

Yup, either lesser or a butter. Both are in the BEL complex, so it will give you a shot at BELs whether you pair with a lesser, butter, or mojo. And might I add I love the colors on it, just my $0.02

oh yes that is a lesser and yes it will lighten up. at $200 that is a great pickup! Congrats.

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Originally Posted by Alexandra V

Yup, either lesser or a butter. Both are in the BEL complex, so it will give you a shot at BELs whether you pair with a lesser, butter, or mojo. And might I add I love the colors on it, just my $0.02

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Thanks...I love the BEL line. I have a Blonde Pastel female now, but want a Mojave female to have a shot at the BEL. I also want a ghost BP.

Looks like a butter to me. Either way that's a smart buy:gj:

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Originally Posted by Tom Small

Thanks...I love the BEL line. I have a Blonde Pastel female now, but want a Mojave female to have a shot at the BEL. I also want a ghost BP.

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Get a female lesser or butter if you can, BEL would be cleaner. And as far as I know lesser/butter x lesser/butter is the most favored BEL combo.

Personally I think a double gene BEL is better... I like having the options of making a better combo. They are going to be white regardless, so even if it wasn't clean I wouldn't care.

UNLESS we are talking about a BlkEL. Then the more unclean the better. David Reed's Sulfers make SICK BELs! Make those BlkELs as dirty as possible! :banana:

He's not one of the "clean" reduced-pattern lessers you see people showing off, but he is definitely a lesser or a butter.

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Originally Posted by evan385

Get a female lesser or butter if you can, BEL would be cleaner. And as far as I know lesser/butter x lesser/butter is the most favored BEL combo.

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Super lessers and super butters look whiter than most lesser/mojaves or butter/mojaves... but if he has a mojave girl, he can eventually try for potions or crystals. :gj:

beautiful boy theres a local lesser male up for $200 im stumped on getting him lol im supposed to save money

Hey Tom,are you in the Tampa-ish area? I swore thats the same pic i seen posted on craigslist in pinellas co. I even spoke to the guy about this BP...if this is the same pic anyways.

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Originally Posted by Christopher De Leon

Hey Tom,are you in the Tampa-ish area? I swore thats the same pic i seen posted on craigslist in pinellas co. I even spoke to the guy about this BP...if this is the same pic anyways.

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Yes it sounds like the same post. He was in St Pete. what do you know of this guy? I hate to buy an animal from craigslist, but I have been wanting a lesser for awhile and got it at a great price. I picked up the lesser male last night for $150 and a normal female lesser het for $20. I have posted a couple pics of the lesser.

I have a blonde pastel female that I want to pair him with. I started out with the ball pythons almost 2 years ago just as pets, but the idea of hatching my own morphs is very cool. plus it is a great educational hobby for the kids.

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Originally Posted by Tom Small

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Yes it sounds like the same post. He was in St Pete. what do you know of this guy? I hate to buy an animal from craigslist, but I have been wanting a lesser for awhile and got it at a great price. I picked up the lesser male last night for $150 and a normal female lesser het for $20. I have posted a couple pics of the lesser.

I have a blonde pastel female that I want to pair him with. I started out with the ball pythons almost 2 years ago just as pets, but the idea of hatching my own morphs is very cool. plus it is a great educational hobby for the kids.

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You do know lesser is a Co-dominant so there are not any het. lessers.

The guy seems legit. I have him on my facebook. He had your lesser for $150 and he had a female lesser for like 280 right now. He had these nice prices on these lessers and when i hit him about about his pastels and ybs, i think he was charging a bit much vs going price for these hatchlings right now. Ive been seeing 800+grams male pastels and ybs goin for as low as $50 on craigslist in our area right now.

I LOVE craigslist! All my snakes are from craigslist actually. Ive gotten unbeatable deals! Bought my male pastel at 850 grams plus tank,heating pad and heat lamp for $50...hes breeding like a champ! All 5 of my females,all over 1300g, less than 100. And most recently i bought a "male" spider plus tank and accessories for $100 at almost 1000g...and turned out to be female!!! It dont get any better than that! I also got my 10 slot 28qt tub rack for $70. I work craigslist like a BOSS! lol

Also,your female isnt het though. No such thing as a het for lesser. Het means the animal is carrying a recessive gene,but lesser is co dom. Your female is just a normal female FROM the clutch your lesser was in.

Great deal! Was it het for albino or something or lesser? Because lessers are co-dom.

Lol...guy isn't legit is he's selling a "normal female het lesser" :rolleyes:

I think the het issue was a mistake on Toms part maybe. I talked to the guy a week ago n if he woulda said anything about het lesser i woulda called him out on it. Plus,he charged only 20 for the female,so that shows he didnt sell the female as a het.

The seller deals in recessive genes so i know the seller knows what Het means. He posted FB pics last night of his new pied males for sale.

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Originally Posted by PonderosaSnakeHouse

You do know lesser is a Co-dominant so there are not any het. lessers.

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yes you're right... I meant a normal from a lesser father. May be something worth
dinking with

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Originally Posted by Tom Small

yes you're right... I meant a normal from a lesser father. May be something worth
dinking with

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No dinker there! If dad is Lesser than the Normal babies are just normal!