Cinnamon Vs. Cinnamon

I purchased these 2 females from the same breeder back in 2009 as cinnamons. The girl on the right I feel is a perfect example of a cinnamon, I'm not sure about the girl on the left though; I would guess that she def has some sort of hypermelanistic mutation, just not sure if its cinnamon. Any thoughts?

Also they are both supposed to be het albino so hope some good stuff comes out of this!

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...Swirl2-med.jpg

It could just be the pictures, but the one on the left looks like a normal not a cinny to me.

I second Kirna's opinion to me it looks like a normal with the "eyes" of a cinny.

Here is another pic of them.

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...sSwirl-med.jpg

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Originally Posted by Kenj620

Here is another pic of them.

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...sSwirl-med.jpg

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The one on the left looks like a nice cinny, but the one on the right looks like a normal. I don't think they are both cinnies. :(

She may not be a cinnamon, but I think she is far from normal.

i was thinking mabey black pastel. the colours a little off but the pattern looks right to me.

yeah... definitely normal id say cinny and black pastel

I don't think its black pastel, the breeder never mentioned working with black pastels. Also, black pastels have more black squiggles than she does, although cinnys are not generally characterized by any squiggles at all so im not sure.

Did this really need a second thread within 24 hours?

I wanted it to be in morphs and genetics, and I wanted to edit some typos. Can't figure out how to delete the original though.

Looks like a normal and a cinnamon.

Im thinkin black pastel. But even tho the breeder didnt mention it. It has been known to happen that some one buys a black pastel thinking they were a cinny

there is no way that is a normal.. its just not

I will say again. there is no way that is a black pastel. As far as people buying a a cinny and getting a black pastel or vise versa. I had this happen to me along time ago, and I would dare someone to try to pull that on me again. I was first starting out and couldnt easily recognize the difference, that being said it is easy to tell the difference. I posted pics in the other thread and can do so again...I am unsure why this needed a second thread

Maybe a het red? Not normal.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-Black-Pastels

It could be the fact that they are hets. Hets tend to slightly change the pattern/color of the snake.