Female blood breeding question

How old do they have to be and what's a good ball park weight, was kinda interested in making some super balls this year

And probably a stupid question but I'd like to know, is it safe to house a blood and a ball for anything other then trying to breed?

Safe to house them together? The difference in husbandry would be a big 'no-no' for me.

For breeding, it seems they tend to take longer than some other species to get up to size. From what I've read, most females seem to have their first clutch at 3-4 years old. I'd care more about age than weight personally. My May 2010 female now weighs under 3 pounds, at 3 years old I have a good feeling she'll have broken 10lbs.

Keep in mind that the successful hybrid projects involve multiple animals of both species and usually requires more than a single season to have any success.

Your not going to find a whole lot of support on this forum when making hybrid animals. Husbandry is different for both animals and you shouldn't house two balls together never mind a ball and a blood. Blood Pythons are more territorial and aggressive than ball pythons and you will probably end up with a dead ball python on your hands. Bloods are a much bigger species of python and shouldn't be breed much before 10lbs, were Ball Pythons can be breed at 2lbs.. When dealing with adults; balls usually fall under 10lbs, where bloods are often 3x that weight. Making Hybrids is very difficult, dangerous at times, and time consuming. They are not really sought after on the market or widely accepted in the community.

Cheers.

here we go again,,,, no your probabally not going to find a whole lotta support here,, and thats a shame,,, anyway,, ill support ya!!!!
husbandry IS NOT that much different, and you HAVE to house two animals together if you want them to breed:rolleyes:... i might be wrong,,, but i dont remember reading that bloods are more territoral than balls,, and i have balls that are way more agressive than my bloods,, .. it would be nice if the previous poster could produce facts.
i currentaly am doing a hybrid project, and i have ended up with NO dead balls on my hands,,, LOL..... youll need to overlook the people that are here to hate.......
now, after saying that,,, i keep a close eye when i pair,,,, and the size difference IS kinda funny.. just be careful with your animals...
keep in mind that when talking about hybrids, you have to be responsible in the actions you take as to what you do with the offspring,,, but only you can control that... hybrids are kinda new territory, so as hybrid breeders or wanna be breeders, it is our responsibility to be responsible.........
spooky

:please: wishing there was a hybrid section:please:
spooky

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Originally Posted by mr.spooky

husbandry IS NOT that much different, and you HAVE to house two animals together if you want them to breed

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1) The big husbandry issue for me is hot spots and ambients. For adult bloods, I like to have a consistent ~83-84 degrees and no hot spot. Ball pythons, I tend to do a typical belly-heat setup with variable ambients based on season and ~90 or just above hot spots.

2) There is a difference between "housing them together" year 'round and temporarily placing them together for breeding purposes. I would NOT be happy keeping a blood python in one of my ball python setups, nor vice versa, all year.

That said, more power to the OP and yourself for a hybrid project. It's difficult enough already.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

1) The big husbandry issue for me is hot spots and ambients. For adult bloods, I like to have a consistent ~83-84 degrees and no hot spot. Ball pythons, I tend to do a typical belly-heat setup with variable ambients based on season and ~90 or just above hot spots.

2) There is a difference between "housing them together" year 'round and temporarily placing them together for breeding purposes. I would NOT be happy keeping a blood python in one of my ball python setups, nor vice versa, all year.

That said, more power to the OP and yourself for a hybrid project. It's difficult enough already.

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agreed!
my animals are set up about the same as what you have described, so for breeding purposes, there about the same...
and i as well would NO WAY,,, NO HOW keep these animals together year round.
BTW,,, thanks for your support!
spooky

I agree, I too wish there was a hybrid section on this forum. To the OP please share any info you find as I am always interested in reading from those attempting at ball/ blood breeding

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Originally Posted by Yeti

How old do they have to be and what's a good ball park weight, was kinda interested in making some super balls this year

And probably a stupid question but I'd like to know, is it safe to house a blood and a ball for anything other then trying to breed?

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how old/big is your female?
spooky

I stand by everything I said earlier. But, don't get me wrong I'm not against hybrid animals and I think they are very cool. I have a problem with people breeding them with the intent to introduce them into the market. How often do you see posts with people buying snakes as "fancy ball pythons," etc. Or if they end up in rescues or shelters people who run them wont necessarily know what they are.

A lot of people are against them for reasons I can understand. I personally want an angry ball (Angolian X Regius) for my own personal pet. I would never sell it, and I would never introduce it to the market for ANY REASON. I have a problem with people breeding them for sale.

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Originally Posted by decensored

I stand by everything I said earlier. But, don't get me wrong I'm not against hybrid animals and I think they are very cool. I have a problem with people breeding them with the intent to introduce them into the market. How often do you see posts with people buying snakes as "fancy ball pythons," etc. Or if they end up in rescues or shelters people who run them wont necessarily know what they are.

A lot of people are against them for reasons I can understand. I personally want an angry ball (Angolian X Regius) for my own personal pet. I would never sell it, and I would never introduce it to the market for ANY REASON. I have a problem with people breeding them for sale.

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sorry then,,,,, i must of misunderstood your post,,,,.........
spooky

I think a Hybrid room for this forum would be awesome.

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Originally Posted by decensored

I think a Hybrid room for this forum would be awesome.

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:D maby we should start a poll??? LOL
spooky

yes! do it up. LOL:gj:

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Originally Posted by mr.spooky

how old/big is your female?
spooky

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She's a little over a year, I'm just trying to gather as much info as I possibly can while she's young so I can make a very educated decision as to weather or not I want to do this project.


And no I would not introduce them into the market Thats for me only lol

A hybrid section would be the BEST,as the last 2 individuals who have asked about making bloodballs are rank greenhorns/ beginners who know little to nothing about the proper keeping of reptiles..They both started off with the MOST BASIC of husbandry/animal questions..With this being the case it plainly speaks the curiousity of a youngster..WHO want nothing more than notority or bragging rights for their success at such..IMO they should concentrate on gaining more knowledge of herps before littering the highway..Pride and integretity SHOULD come before curiosity..:O

Indeed, and point taken. That is even the more reason that it should be "OK" to talk about the subject. This might give people a full understanding of their interest.
spooky