Dumeril's ground boa question

This may be a dumb question but, I was watching swamp wars on animal planet, and they found one that had escaped/been released. first thing i said to myself was it was a dumeril's, but the guy on the show called it a Madagascar.

I know they are from Madagascar, but my question is, is there a difference between a dumeril's ground boa and a Madagascar ground boa if so, how can you tell the difference?

Thanks!

2 totally different animals.
Dumerils
http://i42.tinypic.com/soaf5e.jpg

Madagascar
http://i43.tinypic.com/52dj6e.jpg

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Originally Posted by TheWinWizard

2 totally different animals.
Dumerils
http://i42.tinypic.com/soaf5e.jpg

Madagascar
http://i43.tinypic.com/52dj6e.jpg

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Thank you much!

Just for confirmation from what i can tell from the picture, the Dumerils is brighter with more defined markings, and the Madagascar is darker with a stripe-ish marking down the center of the back?

it was a dumerils - i have kept them in the past - very docile boas

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Originally Posted by robeyeshua

it was a dumerils - i have kept them in the past - very docile boas

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Haha Swamp wars??? the cop seems to know a good deal, but he threw me off saying that!

But yes i have heard they are great temperament wise and id love to get one eventually

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Originally Posted by BFT12890

Haha Swamp wars??? the cop seems to know a good deal, but he threw me off saying that!

But yes i have heard they are great temperament wise and id love to get one eventually

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You won't regret it. One of my all time favorite snakes.

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Originally Posted by BFT12890

Just for confirmation from what i can tell from the picture, the Dumerils is brighter with more defined markings, and the Madagascar is darker with a stripe-ish marking down the center of the back?

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Not necessarily. The coloration can vary in both snakes. I look at the side markings. On a Dumerils (Acrantophis Dumerili) the black side markings are more of a " + " shape, and will usually go higher up, or join, across the back. The Madagascar Ground Boa (Acrantophis Madagascariensis), the black side markings are more " - " shape, and do not go up across the back.

Dumerils:

http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...uvius05792.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...suvius0576.jpg

Maddy:

http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...t/HPIM0893.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...t/HPIM0894.jpg

Also, note the big difference in head shape:

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Originally Posted by TheWinWizard

Dumerils
http://i42.tinypic.com/soaf5e.jpg

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MGB:

http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...t/HPIM0880.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...t/HPIM0878.jpg

that dumeril is so awesome!!!!! now i am seriously looking into getting one for sure.

They're great animals to have! Very docile, will just sit and chill with you.....great eaters. They're my favorite boa :D

do dumerils come in morphs? how big do they get?

i'm likely picking up a granite carpet python sunday and i find it to be on of the prettiest snakes out there. so excited! okay sorry back to topic...

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Originally Posted by SkYyame

do dumerils come in morphs? how big do they get?

i'm likely picking up a granite carpet python sunday and i find it to be on of the prettiest snakes out there. so excited! okay sorry back to topic...

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There are some lighter colored Dumerils, but I'm not sure if it is a genetic morph or not.
As far as size goes, the males will usually average around 5-7 feet and the females will usually average 7-9 feet.

Dumerils Boas are one of my favorite snakes, and I'd definitely recommend getting one if you're interested. Here is a Dumerils Boa Care Sheet if you'd like to learn more about them.

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Originally Posted by Vypyrz

Not necessarily. The coloration can vary in both snakes. I look at the side markings. On a Dumerils (Acrantophis Dumerili) the black side markings are more of a " + " shape, and will usually go higher up, or join, across the back. The Madagascar Ground Boa (Acrantophis Madagascariensis), the black side markings are more " - " shape, and do not go up across the back.

Dumerils:

http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...uvius05792.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...suvius0576.jpg

Maddy:

http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...t/HPIM0893.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...t/HPIM0894.jpg

Also, note the big difference in head shape:



MGB:

http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...t/HPIM0880.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/...t/HPIM0878.jpg

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:O AWESOME! thank you very much, you definitely answered my questions and then some! :gj:

thanks to everyone else for their input as well!