Cleaning time took some pic... also need help identifying

Cleaning day... they put out some weight so i took some pic... enjoy :)

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b.../bbeekecil.jpg

Female bumble bee @ 800gr, my brother produced her november 2010

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...aramekecil.jpg

Female caramel @ 1150gr getting fatter :P

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...astkecil-1.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...lastkecil2.jpg

Female spinner blast @ 650gr, i wonder if shes ready to breed by early 2013

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...ybeekecil2.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...beekecil-1.jpg

Male Honey bee @ 600gr, love his somewhat reduced pattern :D


http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...lehiakecil.jpg

my brother's male butter @ 900gr

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...esserkecil.jpg

I kinda need help to identify this girl... bought it as female lesser but then a friend of mine says its a butter.... can anybody help me identify ?

shes @ 1350gr been vasting since december she ate last week but refuses meal again this week...

Thanks for looking




link to my previous thread while these guys were tiny

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...iny-collection

The last pic right?

Looks super clean and buttery.

I'd say looks like my butter.
Got him as a butter.
I do however think they are too closely similar to be different but still feel they are different.

But I'd put money that she's a butter.

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butter and lesser are the same morph IMO

sookieball : yup shes the one need identifying... oh ok shes a butter then as suspected.

Rat160: yeah ive read it couple of times... oh well nothing changed just the labeling :)

thx guys :)

Love your pics. You've got an awesome collect :gj:

Your girl looks more lesser to me than butter. Hopefully someone else with a better eye can chime in :)

Lesser and Butter are essentially the same morph... I do not think you can really say it is one over the other. If it was sold to you as a lesser, I would go with that. The breeder should know that they had to sell.

Very nice snakes! Some times it's easy to pick out butters from lessers, sometimes not so much. I think she looks like a lesser, but I'm no expert.

I see a lesser in the last pic, but it doesnt make a huge difference either way.

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Originally Posted by aalomon

I see a lesser in the last pic, but it doesnt make a huge difference either way.

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I personally don't think it makes any difference at all either way :P

You'll make the same combos and put it with a butter/lesser, you'll still get a lucy :D

Awesome collection, I especially dig the spinner blast!

Love Love Love both the carmel and spinner blast!

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Originally Posted by heathers*bps

Love your pics. You've got an awesome collect :gj:

Your girl looks more lesser to me than butter. Hopefully someone else with a better eye can chime in :)

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Thanks :) yeah i also feel its a lesser... the pattern and the colour is noticably different to my brother's butter

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Originally Posted by Crawly's Mom

Lesser and Butter are essentially the same morph... I do not think you can really say it is one over the other. If it was sold to you as a lesser, I would go with that. The breeder should know that they had to sell.

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true... so i guess i should just keep her labeled as lesser then....

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I see a lesser in the last pic, but it doesnt make a huge difference either way.

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true :) thanks

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I personally don't think it makes any difference at all either way :P

You'll make the same combos and put it with a butter/lesser, you'll still get a lucy :D

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yeah... shes currently paired with the butter im borrowing from my brother :D

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Awesome collection, I especially dig the spinner blast!

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thanks :)

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Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters

Very nice snakes! Some times it's easy to pick out butters from lessers, sometimes not so much. I think she looks like a lesser, but I'm no expert.

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thanks... i hope someone who owns both butter and lesser would make comment here

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Love Love Love both the carmel and spinner blast!

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thanks kevin i really love my caramels colours and hoping the spinner blast could start breeding in early 2013 :P


thanks for the thoughts guys, you guys are great :)

I'm a big fan of the honey bee, gorgeous animals!

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I'm a big fan of the honey bee, gorgeous animals!

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thank you, he is my only male for now... adding some snakes soon... still in importing process... i hope they could be here before Christmas :please::please::please::please:

I would say it is a lesser. Your butter also looks like a lesser in my opinion. Oh well, your collection is totally awesome !

Ps. especially the caramel :D

Love the pics! Great collection. Have to say the Honey Bee is my favorite, although all are very nice. Thanks for sharing!

If you bought as a Lesser then it's a Lesser. Butters and Lessers are so similar that it would be hard to say either way. They are the same morphs but they have been selective bred for certain traits, Butters tend to have a creamier butter color while Lessers tend to have more of a yellow color! It's easier to tell when the are babies. Either way she is a nice looking snake!