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  • 11-18-2011, 03:40 PM
    ER12
    Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    HB 352 sponsored by Representative Debbie Phillips and introduced in Ohio would BAN most all snakes, and all crocodilians. HB 352 is a jerk knee reaction to a recent suicide andsubsequent animal release of lions, tigers and bears in Zanesville Ohio. It is the result of the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) exploiting this tragedy to further their agenda of endingall animal ownership and use by providing Ohio Legislators and Department of Natural Resources with misinformation regarding reptiles. There were no reptiles involved in the animal release atZanesville.

    Although there is a moderate occupational risk in working with certain reptiles, historically and statistically there is virtually zero public safety risk. Working with traditional livestock andpets presents far more risk than working with reptiles. 35 people per year are killed by dogs in the US. The efforts by HSUS to inflame this situation in Ohio, and sensationalize it through the mediais reprehensible and irresponsible. No one was actually hurt in the incident and NO reptiles were involved. HSUS is engaging in scare tactics in an attempt to force their ideology into law inOhio.

    The reptile industry in Ohio represents approximately $30 million in annual trade, thousands of jobs and upwards of 100,000 animals in Ohio. USARK OPPOSES HB 352. It is poorlywritten and demonstrates what poor information the bill's sponsor has received from HSUS. USARK asks that ALL reptile be removed from HB 352.

    Click here to OPPOSE HB 352 TODAY and send an email to the Bill Sponsor: http://usark.org/campaign.php?id=27

    Click here to read HB 352: www.usark.org/uploads/Ohio-HB352.pdf

    USARK says NO ON HB 352!
  • 11-18-2011, 03:50 PM
    mues155
    I sent the email...im not from ohio though, hope i helped anyways!
  • 11-18-2011, 04:07 PM
    RestlessRobie
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Email Sent :D
  • 11-18-2011, 05:01 PM
    YOSEF
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mues155 View Post
    I sent the email...im not from ohio though, hope i helped anyways!

    THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH !

    I wish for you much peace , happiness !
    Shalom,
    Yosef ....in Ohio
  • 11-18-2011, 05:02 PM
    YOSEF
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    I just sent my e-mail ! I don't want my pet taken from me !!!!
  • 11-18-2011, 05:11 PM
    Kinra
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by YOSEF View Post
    I just sent my e-mail ! I don't want my pet taken from me !!!!

    I sent the e-mail as well. I hope we make a difference and they don't try to take away your pets. :tears:
  • 11-18-2011, 07:12 PM
    AGoldReptiles
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Thank You to anyone who sends in there e-mails! :salute:
  • 11-18-2011, 07:23 PM
    Maixx
    Sent.
    Even if I am from Wa, anti reptile legislation is harmful to all who wish to keep reptiles, this needs to be fought, and not allowed to set further example to other states and localities.
  • 11-18-2011, 07:58 PM
    Virus
    Done, and done.

    Let's hope we continue our successful streak against these rediculous bills.
  • 11-18-2011, 08:39 PM
    AK907
    Both my wife and myself sent him emails. We will also be posting this on our Facebook pages.
  • 11-19-2011, 04:27 AM
    mues155
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by YOSEF View Post
    THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH !

    I wish for you much peace , happiness !
    Shalom,
    Yosef ....in Ohio

    of course! If this was happening in my state I would love the support from everyone. Even though our pets are scaley they are still FAMILY!

    I also posted this on my facebook!
    Good luck guys!
    Keep us posted
  • 11-19-2011, 12:35 PM
    evan385
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Sent email, stupid politicians need to be educated about reptiles before being allowed to make these kind of laws <.<
  • 11-19-2011, 04:32 PM
    ash0587
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Email sent with threat to take my tax dollars into Michigan (Just don't tell them we were planning on moving there anyways). Also posted on my facebook!
    Thanks to all who are showing their support!
  • 11-19-2011, 04:40 PM
    Skittles1101
    I sent an email as well, not from Ohio, but this community needs to stick together through this, whether it directly affects us or not. Let's hope this speaks loudly...
  • 11-20-2011, 02:08 AM
    Quikcobra
    :salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::salute:I understand whats going on in the everglades. But to both people in Ohio? Proves they ran out of real stuff to do...
  • 11-22-2011, 05:50 AM
    ER12
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Working Group Executive Summary to restrict all Boidae and Pythonidae:
    http://ohiodnr.com/downloads/restric...-framework.pdf
  • 11-24-2011, 01:39 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ER12 View Post
    Working Group Executive Summary to restrict all Boidae and Pythonidae:
    http://ohiodnr.com/downloads/restric...-framework.pdf

    So, I guess we can't own boas or pythons in Ohio past June 30th 2014.
  • 11-24-2011, 11:38 PM
    Virus
    This is absurd. I know what state I'm not living in. Ever.
  • 11-25-2011, 12:37 PM
    YOSEF
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wh00h0069 View Post
    So, I guess we can't own boas or pythons in Ohio past June 30th 2014.

    It's not over yet ! After talking with a friend of mine recently, he informed me that the bill goes to be signed / rejected on the 30th of this month.....

    The bill could undergo further revision ( hopefully for us ! ) that MAY allow some pythons and some boas to still be kept.

    However, I was also informed that if this bill passes we will lose every python / boa no matter what size they can grow to.

    I asked about permits and was told that permits were not going to be for private ownership, only for institutions deemed acceptable by the state.

    I HATE HAVING TO FACE THE POSSIBILITY OF LOSING MY BELOVED PET !

    That is all the info I have at this moment.

    Shalom
    Yosef.....in the illogical state of Ohio !
  • 11-26-2011, 04:36 PM
    Kittycatpenut
    They're banning ALL species of boas and pythons! Thats ridiculous!
  • 11-26-2011, 04:38 PM
    Kittycatpenut
    I also saw felines. Did they ban cats?
  • 11-27-2011, 03:22 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by YOSEF View Post
    It's not over yet ! After talking with a friend of mine recently, he informed me that the bill goes to be signed / rejected on the 30th of this month.....

    The bill could undergo further revision ( hopefully for us ! ) that MAY allow some pythons and some boas to still be kept.

    However, I was also informed that if this bill passes we will lose every python / boa no matter what size they can grow to.

    I asked about permits and was told that permits were not going to be for private ownership, only for institutions deemed acceptable by the state.

    I HATE HAVING TO FACE THE POSSIBILITY OF LOSING MY BELOVED PET !

    That is all the info I have at this moment.

    Shalom
    Yosef.....in the illogical state of Ohio !

    Maybe they should ban politicians. I would vote for that.
  • 11-27-2011, 04:38 PM
    QuiccStrike911
    eMAIL SENT
  • 11-27-2011, 04:40 PM
    AK907
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kittycatpenut View Post
    I also saw felines. Did they ban cats?

    Yeah, I was wondering that too. I don't know squat about cats, but I know a LOT of people who have them. Normally I would say I can't believe they would ban house cats and dogs, but now I really don't know.

    If this ban goes into effect, we will be buying some land in Wyoming before Jan 1st, 2014. See ya Ohio! :mad:
  • 11-27-2011, 09:55 PM
    John1982
    E-mailed them as well from out of state, sending the link to family/friends so they can do the same. Good luck fighting the lame propaganda.
  • 11-27-2011, 10:25 PM
    dagu
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Just sent it. It really surprises me that so many americans are willing to give up their freedoms at the drop of a hat.
  • 11-29-2011, 11:32 AM
    sgath92
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Only & first response I've gotten to-date:

    Quote:

    Dear Ms. Gath,

    Thank you for writing to share your thoughts on HB 352. As I stated to the media, and to local stakeholders, including owners and breeders of reptiles, I view the Strickland executive order language as a good starting place, and I am open to recommendations for improvement. I enjoyed the opportunity to participate in a meeting of Governor Kasich's workgroup, and appreciate the direction those recommendations are taking. I do intend to make some changes to the bill as it moves through the legislative process, and I welcome your suggestions on ways to improve it. Thanks again for taking the time to get involved, and help work toward good public policy in Ohio.


    Sincerely,
    Debbie Phillips

    Representative Debbie Phillips
    Ohio House District 92
    77 South High Street, 11th Floor
    Columbus, OH 43215
    (614) 466-2158 (office phone)
    (614) 719-6992 (fax)
    District92@ohr.state.oh.us
  • 11-29-2011, 11:44 AM
    Kinra
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sgath92 View Post
    Only & first response I've gotten to-date:

    I just got the same response.
  • 11-29-2011, 01:22 PM
    evan385
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kinra View Post
    I just got the same response.

    x2 I just got the same exact message but with my name. She's sending mass emails like we did.
  • 11-29-2011, 01:26 PM
    wolfy-hound
    I responded to that same email asking if she was also going to propose banning all dogs then try to tell pet owners that it's okay "We'll probably change the law before it passes so it only bans certain dogs..."

    It's ridiculous and they always try to say "Oh we'll revise it so YOU won't be affected" in hopes that everyone will shut up and let them pass the full ban laws whole.

    I personally think someone should propose legislation banning ALL DOGS and see how outraged pet owners get, then use that outrage to bring attention to the unfairness of banning so many pets just on the basis of one or two small incidents that did not involve any human deaths.
  • 11-29-2011, 01:36 PM
    sgath92
    The email does list her phone number, it's harder [but not impossible] to pretend to care on a phone call. But if you really want to get her attention someone could go meet her in person. Go to the office in person and book an appointment. Insist on it, and don't let them say no.
  • 11-29-2011, 01:38 PM
    Kinra
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound View Post
    I responded to that same email asking if she was also going to propose banning all dogs then try to tell pet owners that it's okay "We'll probably change the law before it passes so it only bans certain dogs..."

    It's ridiculous and they always try to say "Oh we'll revise it so YOU won't be affected" in hopes that everyone will shut up and let them pass the full ban laws whole.

    I personally think someone should propose legislation banning ALL DOGS and see how outraged pet owners get, then use that outrage to bring attention to the unfairness of banning so many pets just on the basis of one or two small incidents that did not involve any human deaths.

    We need to be careful in what we say to politicians because sometimes the things we say actually hurt us more than they help us. We need to be very professional about this or we are going to hinder our efforts.

    Please be careful with the e-mails you send.

    Edit: That was directed at everyone not just you wolfy-hound.
  • 11-29-2011, 02:53 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Don't worry, I phrased it in a professional manner. But the content was the same, pointing out that most domestic pets cause more deaths per year than all deaths from exotics.

    I'm pretty good at pointing out that someone is a mouth breathing idiot without sounding rude.
  • 11-29-2011, 03:30 PM
    Jonas@Balls2TheWall
    I sent my email. Lets keep this bumped, everyone on this forum should be sending this email regardless of where they live. It could be your state next!
  • 11-29-2011, 04:35 PM
    YOSEF
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound View Post
    I responded to that same email asking if she was also going to propose banning all dogs then try to tell pet owners that it's okay "We'll probably change the law before it passes so it only bans certain dogs..."

    It's ridiculous and they always try to say "Oh we'll revise it so YOU won't be affected" in hopes that everyone will shut up and let them pass the full ban laws whole.

    I personally think someone should propose legislation banning ALL DOGS and see how outraged pet owners get, then use that outrage to bring attention to the unfairness of banning so many pets just on the basis of one or two small incidents that did not involve any human deaths.

    You are 100% right ! Try banning dogs , cats and watch the insanity start.....but it won't happen because they are " cute "......
  • 11-29-2011, 04:42 PM
    wolfy-hound
    It also helps to point out that these "exotics" are our PETS, not some object in legislation. Just like they love to come home to their cocker spaniel, we love our snakes and other exotic pets. Just because it's not a dog or cat, doesn't mean we don't care about it or care for it properly.
  • 11-30-2011, 03:12 PM
    Maixx
    Received a reply.
    Quote:

    Dear Mr. Brown,

    Thank you for writing to share your thoughts on HB 352. As I stated to the media, and to local stakeholders, including owners and breeders of reptiles, I view the Strickland executive order language as a good starting place, and I am open to recommendations for improvement. I enjoyed the opportunity to participate in a meeting of Governor Kasich's workgroup, and appreciate the direction those recommendations are taking. I do intend to make some changes to the bill as it moves through the legislative process, and I welcome your suggestions on ways to improve it. Thanks again for taking the time to get involved, and help work toward good public policy in Ohio.

    Sincerely,

    Debbie Phillips

    Representative Debbie Phillips

    Ohio House District 92

    77 South High Street, 11th Floor

    Columbus, OH 43215

    (614) 466-2158 (office phone)

    (614) 719-6992 (fax)

    District92@ohr.state.oh.us<mailto:District92@ohr.st ate.oh.us>
  • 11-30-2011, 03:18 PM
    Skittles1101
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maixx View Post
    Received a reply.

    I received the same exact reply from the same person :rolleyes: I'm considering making phone calls. Here's a list of Ohio reps who are for the bill if anyone is interested :)
    Debbie Phillips (614-466-2158)

    Nickie Antonio (614-466-5921)

    Mike Ashford (614-466-1401)

    Nancy Garland (614-644-6002)

    Tom Letson (614-466-5358)

    Dennis Murray (614-644-6011)

    Sean O'Brien (614-466-3488)

    Dan Ramos (614-466-5141)

    Matt Szollosi (614-466-1418)

    Teresa Fedor (614-644-6017)

    Jay Goyal (614-466-5802)
  • 11-30-2011, 11:09 PM
    AGoldReptiles
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Here is a link to the Final Report.
    [URL="http://www.ohiodnr.com/downloads/FINALREPORT-113011.pdf"]http://www.ohiodnr.com/downloads/FINALREPORT-113011.pdf[/URL
  • 12-01-2011, 12:47 AM
    Virus
    I don't really know how to properly respond at this point. We took a hit, but avoided some damage.

    Blah...Just blah.
  • 12-01-2011, 01:07 AM
    Virus
    Here's a quoted post from another forum.

    Quote:

    here's a link to the workgroup's final report. from here, legislation will be drafted that (hopefully) adheres to the recommendations in this report. HB352 will likely be dropped in favor of a new bill.

    ohiodnr.com/downloads/FINALREPORT-113011.pdf

    the EXTREMELY broad definition of "dangerous exotic animal" has been narrowed down some in this final report. boas and most pythons are no longer on the list, however burms, retics, rocks, anacondas are still on it. there is a caveat to that, though... the workgroup recommended that the OH dept of ag be given authority to add WHATEVER ANIMALS THEY DEEM NECESSARY to the list after it's finalized. THAT IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS for ALL of us.

    once the bill hits committee, there will be a couple of committee meetings to discuss the bill and any changes that the committee deems necessary. these meetings will be OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, and PUBLIC TESTIMONY will also be permitted provided notice is given in advance to the committee chairman.

    simply put, WE NEED TO FLOOD THESE MEETINGS, and the more eloquent of us need to prepare testimonies. there will be relatively short notice of when the new bill(s) will be presented in committee, so if you're nearby you may need to burn a sick day at work or whatever, but we NEED people to be there when this happens! i cannot stress the importance of this enough!

    once the new bill is submitted and assigned to a committee, i'll post it here. from there, you can get onto a notification list that will give you about 4 or 5 days warning about when the bill will be discussed.

    if you have any questions, let me know. stay tuned...

    reptiles do NOT belong on this list. PERIOD.
    -dangles
  • 12-01-2011, 10:39 AM
    llovelace
    What happened to USARK page?
  • 12-01-2011, 10:48 AM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: Say NO to Ohio Reptile Ban TODAY!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Virus View Post
    Here's a quoted post from another forum.



    -dangles

    That's Great!!
  • 12-01-2011, 07:56 PM
    ER12
    Exotic-animal ban may have too big a bite for lawmakers
    Exotic-animal ban may have too big a bite for lawmakers
    A proposed ban on private ownership of exotic animals in Ohio beginning Jan. 1, 2014, ran into legislative opposition as soon as it arrived yesterday.
    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...ig-a-bite.html
  • 12-04-2011, 05:32 PM
    sgath92
    So far still no 2nd response, not even another automated one.
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