Thoughts on chocolates?

What are your thoughts on chocolate balls? What sort of interesting combos do they make?
I'm just curious on everyone's opinions as
I am not very familiar with the morph.
Thanks!

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I can't tell them from normals :weirdface

I just saw one the other day and it looked somewhat similar to a cinny/black pastel. So I just wanted to inquire about them.

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I have a female Chocolate I purchased from BHB who is around 900grams now. I plan on breeding her to a chocolate pinstripe to try and produce the Camo Ball!

Here is the founding female from my Garcia line:

http://snakemorphs.com/collection/im...ed_12years.jpg

Some of them are more obvious than others. I produced a couple subtle crosses this year including this chocolate cinnamon

http://snakemorphs.com/images/201110...tecinnamon.jpg

and chocolate yb was also subtle.

However I really like the chocolate cinnamon mojave combo:

http://snakemorphs.com/images/201110...monmojave2.jpg

I think she'll look even better with size and age based on how nice her chocolate mojave mom looks:

http://snakemorphs.com/images/201009...olate1000g.jpg

Oh, I also liked the super chocolate:

http://snakemorphs.com/images/201109..._clutch1m1.jpg

I think other chocolate line supers are generally darker and I like those too.

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Originally Posted by mikeandsheleen

I can't tell them from normals :weirdface

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x2!! There's a lot of morphs that look like normals to me, lol.

Chocolates are about to be huge!

Definitely a morph worth having. Looking to pick up a male chocolate once my female pinstripes are closer to breeding size.

I agree, definitely a morph worth having! The potential is insane! I have a Chocolate Pinstripe from BHB that is insane!! There are still many options with this morph that have yet to be done! Plus, unlike sable, it is compatible with spider!


Jeremy T.
J and D Reptiles
www.janddreptiles.com

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Originally Posted by RandyRemington

However I really like the chocolate cinnamon mojave combo:

http://snakemorphs.com/images/201110...monmojave2.jpg

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That mojave-cinny-chocolate is gorgeous! Very unique looking. Love the dorsal stripe as well!

I think I wrote a reply to this thread last night and forgot to hit "send" :P

I like chocolates a lot. As JandDmorphs alluded to, I think they're going to eclipse sables pretty quickly. The two morphs are often considered to be very similar (both are subtle, dark morphs, though I think they look quite different), but sable spiders and their combos typically fail to my knowledge. Evidently they hatch, but the hatchlings typically fail to thrive and die at a few weeks of age. I have seen a few live sable spiders and combos advertised, so I don't think it's 100% mortality, but I've heard the story enough to want to avoid the breeding. Chocolate spiders and their combos DO live, to my knowledge, and are very neat looking.

I have both a choc and a sable girl that I got at the same time, and while I like the appearance of the sable a lot more than I thought I would, I probably won't keep her to work with that morph. I just don't want to have a gene in my collection that's fatally incompatible with another gene -- especially since there's a similar (and even, to my eye, slightly nicer) morph out there that IS compatible. I suspect that I'm not the only person with this train of logic.

There's definitely personal preference involved, too, though -- chocolates tend to be smoother and more reduced-pattern than sables, which tend to be busier and have a granite-type pattern. They also seem to impart these traits to their combos (both make darker combos, but chocolates' are more reduced/banded and smooth while sable combos are busier with speckling). I definitely prefer the former appearance in all morphs, but if you prefer the busy/granite pattern, you may prefer the sables even despite the spider issue.

I like a lot of the chocolate combos I've seen, and I think there's still a LOT more to be done with them.